Surely Best should consist of only the best writing. If so, why are these Hubs not all Editors Choice Hubs? Latest should consist only of all recently published Hubs which have passed the QA. Hot should be those Hubs which are currently receiving traffic.
The forum and questions should be in their own category far away from the public eye. Any comments made on the forum over a year old should be deleted from the site as these old threads are being re-opened even when they are no longer relevant.
Well said Sally. I hope the HP staff read these suggestions and take notice.
Spot on, Sally. Good on you ! I so agree with what you say.
I absolutely agree with all comments above - which is an edited version of what you said - basic principles - definitely Yes!
Many writers choose to opt-out for Editors Choice. It's bad enough their work is no longer considered for Hub of the Day. I wouldn't like to see them left out of "Best" as well.
Otherwise, I think you make some good points.
Perhaps they might like to consider it if their Hubs were to be shown with the so, called 'Best' but you do make a very valid point, one I had not considered because I opted in. Thank you for sharing that.
Maybe they would, but I don't know that the benefits of being included in "Best" would outweigh the negatives of having a successful Hub re-indexed with a new url.
As regards Editors Choice, I have about seventeen, none of which perform any better as far as I am aware than they did when they were first written. They are spread throughout my stats though none can be found at the bottom end of my stats. It makes it harder I think for the owners of this site to make a decision on how to split the wheat from the chaff should they ever decide to do so. How much easier it might have been for them had the so called 'Best' all been in one basket:)
@Sallybea The feedback from Hubbers has been great. Thank you.
Expect to see higher quality latest Hubs soon. Our system is somewhat complex in that we need to train our system to set the bars where we want them and that takes a few weeks. The tweaks we are working on include more emphasis on grammar and spelling, more details (substance), plus some more subtle improvements to how we rate new Hubs. This should help with the latest list quite a bit.
One thing I'm excited about, is we can see signs that the community is interacting and encouraging Hubbers in ways I didn't anticipate (in a very good way) by putting latest Hubs front and center.
Another side note. Traffic to the homepage has been reshuffled, but the net is a lot more people are coming to the home page and to topic pages now.
As always we are reading lots of Hubber comments and working on several things. Thanks again for the comments.
There is certainly a mixed bag of things happened on HP. However, I have to agree with you Saly. Why would they put anything but the best under "Best". Certainly a poor representation of our site.
It seems little by little we are losing our beloved HP!
I reckon it is up to us, time to start building the bricks back up again. There has been far too much negativity lately. I value this site, I appreciate the fact that I am earning a residual income from it and I really don't want that to come to an end..
I would be totally heartbroken if HP went away. It has been a great place for me to test my writing, learn how to improve and share the friendship of so many wonderful people sailing in the same boats!
The last time Hot Hubs were viewable, many writers didn't like how having their traffic success pointed out made their hot content the most stolen and spun.
So this feature was removed.
How is this whole situation not going to just repeat itself now that this feature exists once again?
That is really interesting. I did not know about that or the effect it had on the site. I think we will just have to wait and see whether Paul and the team can strike the right balance. Right now it is not a good showcasing the best writing, These writers need to reap the benefits and rewards which come from their effort.
It is much exciting to see these kind of discussions going on here. I appreciate Sallybea for moving this discussion and our hubbers participating in it . Each and every response casted some new light on the topic. And Paul Edmundson's assurance is quite a relief that they are doing something to set things right on track.
I particularly feel much embarrassed at the "latest" feed appearing on our homepage, as almost all of you agree, at the way the old feeds are popping up as latest threads due to some random, unmindful activity of one of us not knowing the consequences of it.
I appreciate the support, thank you so much and to everyone else, please contribute to this discussion, let us make it a positive one and make each opinion count.
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