Editbot, which was completely unwelcome to my hubs (although who cares) decided to *edit my follower's COMMENTS!!* = "i have never heard of this before. its a (*it's a) very scary thing." You are now editing my follower's COMMENTS? You have GOt to be kidding me!!!!!!! At what point is HubPages becoming a mind unto itself? When do I get a say in how this works (or doesn't work?) on my own pages? Editing my comments is ridiculous.......
I have to agree that editing comments to a hub is ridiculous! There are apparently some editors at HP that don't have enough real work to do. Editing comments for grammatical errors reduces the spontaneity of readers' responses (and may piss some of them off so much that they stop making comments entirely). Does anyone in HP Administration ever think through the potential results of these changes-merely-for-the-sake-of-making-changes before rolling them out?
I assume that Google does not discriminate between text in your article and text in your comments. Therefore, your articles' rankings in Google search would suffer and that is what HP is trying to address. It's a change, for sure, but hardly a waste of time.
There are several things that bother some of us about editbot changing comments. Let me explain a few of them and also a few reasons they would prompt hubbers to delete the comments causing the problems.
1. Editing the words of other people without their permission feels a bit unethical. There's no warning to those who comment letting them know their words might be changed. This may make people arriving via search engine fear their words can be twisted by hub authors if they see changes they did not make on their comments. Some writers would prefer to delete a comment rather than change a person's words without permission.
2. Editbot doesn't get enough of the errors for the edits to be meaningful. It leaves the most abysmal errors alone right next to minor problems it corrects or even incorrectly corrects. The benefit isn't worth the cost in trust if the comment is changed but still isn't even close to grammatically correct.
3. Online writers have been conditioned to think that flags on working dashboards indicate something they need to address which will result in some kind of penalty if not addressed. The bots that never go away may bother people used to working inside that framework for the last decade. I think the thought behind deleting those comments is that the error flags, the robots, may eventually leave the dashboard if the comments causing them are deleted.
4. The question of whether or not hubscore is affected by the number of editbot corrections on a hub's comments hasn't been addressed clearly and decisively enough for hubbers to know for sure whether or not these cute little flags hurt their hubscores and hubber scores. Again, I think many are considering removing the comments that set off the bots to preserve their scores in case they do affect them and in case the bots ever disappear after the comments are deleted.
KyLyssa - In addition to the ethics of whether or not readers' comments should be arbitrarily edited, if HP editors attempt to edit anything--either a hub or readers' comments--and don't do it accurately, I fail to see how that could please Google!
While looking at the edits on my sites there is a check box next to the words that were updated. I believe that if you uncheck that box it will return the edits back to how you had them.
Just to make sure I clicked on the Editbot at the bottom of my lenses and got the following pop up.
Editbot made spelling and grammatical corrections to this Hub! To view and/or undo the edits, open the live version of your Hub and click on the grey 'show up to x corrections' button in the author center box at the top of the page.
"I try and avoid using a colon, because I'm never quite sure of how it should be used, so this was very helpful to me (as are your other Hubs) Maybe now I'll be brave enought to use a colon every now and again." (*try to; *enough) .. more Comments!
I don't care if it's in the comments as long as it'll help with Google rankings in the long run. People need to calm down, I've seen way too much complaining when the HP staff is obviously trying to improve Hubpages and where it stands.
You have to remember that the notice below your profile image says: "More by this Author". Most of the above mentioned corrections are genuine, exactly as the text should have been written in the first place by people who dare call themselves "authors". Authors don't make stupid, uneducated mistakes like "whats", "than" instead of "then" etc.
Now Editbot comes along to help you learn proper English, and you get angry!
As for the comments, isn'it nice for the public to enjoy comments uncluttered with primitive errors? It may even slightly raise the average reading age, currently, that of a 12 year-old!
Editbot is your friend. With a few tweaks suggested by proper authors on all related threads, Editbot is a godsend for HubPages.
Not in the comments. People who comment do genuine comments and don't want their comments to be corrected; for whatever reason.
Plus the only way for HubPages to recover traffic is NOT with the implementation of EditBots or other fancy software.
It is in getting an SSL certification (required from Google since the beginning of this year!!!), a way to keep site scrapers off from stealing our work*, the removal of spam and other of such things. These are far more important than those small and silly edits - on my Hubs edits were definitely beyond ridiculous. "a or an" - "try and - try to" - "1960's or 1960s" and the like. Even the most glorious newspapers do have such mistakes on ALL their pages and still keep their ranking in search engines.
Whether you agree or not, traffic won't recover with this new "tool". It's nice to see your English mistakes getting a few corrections, yet this won't help the site recover traffic, thus increase advertisement rates and thus more readers and earnings for everyone on here.
*Re site scrapers: a couple of years ago I stopped reporting any of my stolen Hubs, it's useless, there were too many of them, a huge waste of time - unpaid waste of time. Strangely this site is one of the most copied sites online; it is not for no reason and the team should rather work on that instead of minimal spelling corrections.
I enthusiastically agree with you! HP should get the SSL certificate! I've already registered my displeasure with EditBot "correcting" readers' spontaneous comments about hubs, so there's no need to repeat it. However, while I'm complaining (and I am), I may as well say that I cannot understand why HP Admin. changed the opening page format from one that was inviting to readers to that cramped little vertical line of boxes with a few words going down the left side of the screen. There is nothing inviting in the "new" look. That's why I contend that HP Admin. just makes changes for the sake of making changes--not because they are improvements (as they rarely are).
Well the former one was the one that would feature the Hub of the Day, is it?
I thought it was too big with NO place left for what's to read on here. Yet, half the page with the HOTD and the half below with pinterest like clickable images and titles - one per section for example - would have been a good idea. I remember that Squidoo had once a great home page which generated a lot of clicks from passers by.
The times I find I have been thrown out of this web site and have to log in again, I always end up half-closing my eyes while clicking to get back to my account page. I loathe having things that do not interest me pushed into my face whether I want them or not. I have no interest whatsoever in reading hubs for the sake of simply reading them. If a hub comes up in a web search I perform (which hardly ever happens), that is a different matter, but I could not give a toss about hub of the day, hot hubs, related hubs and similar excrement.
I stopped paying attention to the EditBot corrections the day after it went "live." Out of my 100 or so Hubs that received the EditBot scan (so far), only ONE had a legitimate typo in the hub itself. The rest were in the comments left by others. It's not my fault that the people who comment on my Hubs can't spell!!
Today I've just gone through my hubs and checked all the corrections. Most of them were fine, and just typos. Some of the corrections, however, were spellings of which I use the Australian, or British spelling for words. These changes, I just don't accept.
Also, there were a few place names which were changed, so obviously the editbot is unable to differentiate between capitalised names, and similar words.
Yes, I know I can untick the box and refuse the alteration, but this is time-consuming. Would also like the little symbol to be removed once I've checked the hubs, and I think HP is looking at this.
I'm glad to have the typos corrected, but hope the bot doesn't come through my hubs again any time soon!
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