All hubbers unite!

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   DasEngelposted 8 years ago

   Let us change the game. Let us show the world who we are and what we have been doing. Have courage, my friends! No one is going to pay us as writers unless we show the people that they need our content and creations. Capture their imaginations and enslave them! Bring on the HubPages revolutions
   
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      theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Got a plan, have you?

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         DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         YES! Enslave their popular imagination.

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            theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            What is a 'popular imagination'? And, how would you enslave it?
            
            What's the point in posting a rallying call if you haven't got a plan to take it forward? These posts are pointless and a waste of pixels unless you can suggest something helpful. I appreciate you want to start a discussion, but you have to be the one to start it off with a concrete idea.

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               DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               OK, here we go: The cardinal point here is that we need to make people want our stuff, the stuff that we create here. So, we need to display our stuff first, and then make them know how it would be useful to them. It's that simple really.
               
               On our HubPages homepage, and sign-in/sign up pages display two good hubs for every 7 days and display related little animations (those that are quick, pestering, and hard to ignore and escape) how these two hubs may benefit people and enrich their lives.
               
               Spread this word on Google, make hubs about this concept, make fb pages etc.

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                  theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Okay, but people don't visit HubPages as a site or a resource. They visit individual hubs that appear in search results. I bet there are very few people who say to themselves, "Oh I wonder what HubPages have published today?" The fact that your/my article is on a site called HubPages is irrelevant.
                  
                  Displaying two hubs a week on the homepage isn't going to make the slightest difference because no-one visits the home page except us.
                  
                  So, how would you make HP a place where the general public might want to hang out? The only way I can see is to write and maintain quality hubs that rank well in search engines. Which is what we keep saying.

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                     Sue Adamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     ... and doing. No game to change here, just produce good work and you get paid. Frankly, I don't see the point of this thread.

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                     DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Using our brains aren't we? OK, each HubPage (each hub) comprises relatively quite a small space, HP fills in the blank space that remains on our monitors with 'bogus' links to other hubs, then more related hubs, then ads etc.
                     
                     I suggest we fill in that blank space with two good hubs for every 7 days and display related little animations (those that are quick, pestering, and hard to ignore and escape) how these two hubs may benefit people and enrich their lives.
                     
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                        Sherry Hewinsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        If I came to a page with a pestering animation, I would hit the back button quickly, without even reading the original article.

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                           DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           Then let's add a "skip this animation button"?

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                           theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           Me too. There's nothing worse than intrusion, especially when all you are trying to do is find information.
                           
                           DasEngel is doing that thing he does so well - deciding that everyone else must come up with ideas to help him and his four hubs. You'd think he'd be working hard, building his portfolio and then worrying about traffic. Mind you, he also says he doesn't believe in writing for Google or earning from his work.

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               DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Btw, everyone have brains don't we. So why pressurize the good fellow who's raising a voice that may benefit everybody, while seemingly not using yours?

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               DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               If people need our writings, content etc, we're on. Otherwise, we're gone.

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                  Barbara Kayposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I think the point you made that we need to make people realize they need to read our hubs. Now we need to know how to convince them of that.

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                     Sue Adamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     It's called SEO and Promotion.

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                  Sue Adamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  People don't need your writings, content, least of all your daily exploits on the forum. Be gone!

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                     Maffew Jamesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     +1

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      liasagustinposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You are quite right. We need promotion and traffic. I do not think Hubpages or other business organization in the internet do it for us. So we will have to promote ourselves and get ourselves traffic. How can we achieve it? Perhaps the writers Hubpages community can help us.
      I leave open the issue.

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   DasEngelposted 8 years ago

   

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   Chriswillman90posted 8 years ago

   This thread is nice in theory but yeah the public could care less about hubbers themselves. They search for answers to their simple and complex questions, so it's up to you to give them that.
   
   I know I don't really care who the author is as long as the article is credible, intriguing, or answers what I'm looking for. The source is important though, which is why I'm happy Hubpages made huge shifts with the subdomains.
   
   Bottom line is for you to produce high quality articles because it's the only way for you, the writer, to benefit and add further credibility to Hubpages.

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      DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I am a voter, personally. So I guess you too are. And we're both here. The point is we're public, and if we're so deeply engaged in this venue, I see no point why others won't (that is, the rest of the public). This place is run by people of flesh and blood. We aren't robots!
      
      People join Facebook not because they were paid to join the site, but they join, out of their own necessity. And if Facebook really wanted that, they could easily exploit people out of that necessity. But they were clever and knew that if they did, they will soon have rival sites who would provide a similar service free of any charges.
      
      
      How about making it obligatory that a reader who has landed on a hub (through Google) will have to sign-up to our site, before they may read any hubs here? Do it as a beta test or whatever. Just do it. Try anything. We all have brains enough, including the administration I suppose?

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         theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         We could do that! We could call it... I dunno... "MySpace"?
         
         You'll have to work out how to make HP be the article equivalent of Instagram.

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            DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Folks (2 folks I guess) who had launched Instagram, did.

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   DasEngelposted 8 years ago

   

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      theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Oh do give it a rest, will you? They aren't funny, neither do they add to the discussion. It just makes people dislike you more.

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         DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Keep up the good work I suppose.

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            DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            What did I say?

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   firstcookbookladyposted 8 years ago

   sigh...ok, well.. I guess I better take my page of printed papers and go back to taping them up in public bathrooms for my captive audience to have something to read while they are doing their business. ... then, back to standing in the middle of the intersection with a big sign that says "I'll write for food or money"-- they used to tell a person it pays to advertise. "Have a brand" etc.  I still haven't figured out how to control my ads in my page, so someone would have to explain how to 'use that blank space' for two good hubs...
   
   I remember, a long time ago, writing a series of webpages that were all linked together. I called them the Silver Shoes. Kinda like Dorothy and her 'there's no place like home" shoes. Click them three times, etc.
   
   Well. I thought it was clever. I even offered my pile of links to people so that they would have 'all their writers links' in one place. Well. I ended up helping the Freelance Writers Organization, International with their database... those are still online.
   
   Anyways.. Keep thinking... DasEngel... you might just think of something that will 'put us on the map"...

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      DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks!

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   UnnamedHaraldposted 8 years ago

   "How about making it obligatory that a reader who has landed on a hub (through Google) will have to sign-up to our site, before they may read any hubs here? Do it as a beta test or whatever. Just do it. Try anything. We all have brains enough, including the administration I suppose?"
   
   I can guarantee that if everyone who came to a hub from a search result had to register and sign in, hub views would tank. To increase views, write more hubs and strive to write better hubs.

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      DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Is that a theory?

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      Sue Adamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Bad idea!
      If I have to sign in before reading an article, I immediately leave the sight. I don't want my email address distributed on hundreds of sites, then get all their promotional emails for the rest of my life, thank you very much.

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         DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         You don't, if you need that article.

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            DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            If Wikipedia implements something similar, chances are that people would sign up for it.

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      ChristinSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Definitely.  There is no way forcing people to sign up to view is a good idea.  I have visited sites that tried this and just backed out and went on with my search elsewhere.  No one is going to take the time to do that and it's intrusive.

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         DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         How about Facebook? They do 'force' the general public to sign-up to their site before they may access the site's full features.

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            ChristinSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Facebook and HubPages are not the same type of site - pretty obvious.

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               DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               So we need to change our style.

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                  ChristinSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  No, we don't.

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                     DasEngelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Good luck

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   Bronwyn Joy Ellioposted 8 years ago

   A friend of mine has told me that should will not read my Hubs because she does not want the hassle of having to sign up to another site. I have told her before that you do not have to, as a family member reads my Hubs when I first post them, and she is not a member.

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