It appears that traffic, after the restructure to sink the subs, has stabilised to a new Panda "Quota" of 750 K which is down 15-20% from the 2015 traffic trend (850 K) . No sign of recovery - but here's hoping that the 'growth in the next few months' happens!
Didn't you ever learn to average out graphical data by eye at school?
You cannot expect a hubber to crunch all that data for a statistically perfect result. If I was doing the same exercise I would come up with pretty much the same result.
Not that I would like it that much, lol.
I am a little worried the downturn is a search quality algo outcome, despite Paul Edmondson saying that he was happy with overall site quality.
Paul has a lot more data than we do, of course, and with any luck he looked at dwell times for q&a. That might be the best guide to the usefulness/quality of that particular (rather concerning) feature.
I know that I did in fact learn to do that, and learn how it is highly susceptible to bias and use of impartial POV is vital. And to propose "stability" there are specific criteria one uses (based on variation tolerance of a running mean).
Yes there is an overall downturn but I do not see the distinct "periods" you propose or ascribe the stable periods to Quotas rather than just a roughly similar site being handled by roughly similar rules over that period (i.e.ecological stability).
I not only learned how to do it by eye, I also crunched numbers for a living in jobs which focused on the assessment of performance management by others for many years - and believe me I can spot a trend line that's off.
Neither 2013 nor 2015 are flat in terms of traffic trends.
I've used Quantcast to comment on art websites for many years. If you click on the Quantcast charts you can get the values for specific dates during the year. This gives you the start and finish values and you can work out the annual equivalents in terms of overall annual trend from there. (i.e. you don't need all the data to work out the trends)
2013 ought to be trending down overall by 15% - starting just under 2 million at the beginning of January and finishing just over 1.7 million pageviews at the end of December 2013 (i.e. loss of 300,000 pageviews or 15% of traffic)
2015 ought to be trending down by a much bigger percentage - double 2013 at c.30% starting around 1.7 million at the beginning of January and finishing at the beginning of December at around 1.2 million pageviews (a loss of 500,000 pageviews or c.30% of traffic enjoyed at the start of the year)
Ask people what they think the trend on their traffic - and earnings looks like. I'm guessing there's a lot more feel it's more like 30% than a "no difference all year" which was what was being suggested by the flat trend line
Overall - in simple terms - this means that HubPages has lost 37% of its pageview traffic in the last three years.
Also another important aspect to 2015 is that the drop in pageviews has been bigger than the drop in visits - which means those visiting are not continuing to surf around the site as much. There has to be a reason for this. Either it means * they're seeing less that interests them * or that the links to the closely related hubs simply aren't there any more. I'm guessing it's maybe a bit of both.
Please note that I'm also looking at GLOBAL daily stats re. Quantcast - which it's important to do as nearly half the visits and around about a third of the page views now come from places outside the USA. (janderson99 is quoting the American figures in the chart in the first post)
I'm not sure if people realise that the American audience is under 60% of the total global audience for the site.
1 January 2013: 1.9 million pageviews (US: 1.1m; Rest of the world 0.8m) 3 December 2015: 1.2 million pageviews (US: 0.7m; Rest of the world 0.5m)
Just visited Google Analytics I did. My current traffic is 63% of what it was this time last year. Looks like I am one of the good subdomains that is now being penalized for being mixed in with the sludge. I've been an understanding and a good little Hubber, but I am starting to get really perturbed about all this.
The bump I received in pageviews, just as the subs were removed, has now gone away. Having said that, I still earn more for pageviews on articles that are not sales article here, than I do anywhere else.
For the same number of pageviews, I earn on Adsense 30% of what I earn at HP. Many of my best performing hubs here sell nothing. They are just fun (hopefully) for people who like to think about dog names.
It sucks not to see growth and more to see decline. Still if you aren't selling anything on Amazon or Ebay or wherever, you can't beat the HP earnings, even taking into account that my CPM was halved after summer 2014.
Why would massive UK sites bother to use a US-based traffic tracking service when they could just use one based in their own country? And why would massive sites actually make their data public? The majority of sites online do not make data available to the public, period.
What you see on Quantcast is like what you see on Alexa: a limited amount of data from their user pool. To consider Quantcast the be-all/end-all of web traffic reporting is erroneous.
Just because Quantcast says HubPages is the 121 most-visited site in the US doesn't mean it actually is, that's just Quantcast's opinion.
My purpose in citing the BBC was to highlight the fact that Quantcast info is partial
The reason for highlighting the current rank for HubPages is because some people in the past have favoured highlighting its presence in the top 100 as some sort of indicator of its complete invincibility - or whatever else they think this site is that means it will never go down the pan.
Bottom line - we're on the same wavelength - just using different words to say it.
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