There's one hub of mine that was averaging around 200 views a day and getting plenty of Amazon sales around a year and a half ago, then throughout the first quarters of last year it was stable at around 50 views and fast forward to the present day... for it to cross 15 a day is hoping for too much.
This particular hub used to rank on page one/two on Google for phrases I was targeting. My niche site has some phrases that it does rank well for (top 3 spots on Google in some cases for decent traffic keyphrases) and I'm doing much better there than I did here at HP getting constant sales etc.
So what I wanted to know is whether any of you have had success and achieved lost rankings after moving the content to your new niche sites. My article here is 4 years old and my niche site is 3 years old. I currently have another article targeting the same basic keyphrase but in a different angle. I was wondering if my hub should replace that article, as the article on my site doesn't really rank well - page 8 to be honest and only gets internal traffic.
If the Hub has lost all its views then you have two choices - move it to your own site, or wait and see if HubPages is going to launch a niche site on that subject.
It might not regain its rankings if you move it to your own site, but the point is that it will bulk up your site - and that's important. I don't think it matters what keyphrases the articles are targeting - if they are offering sufficiently different information, keep them both. If not, keep the best one.
Yup both are good, I think I'll just move it then Thanks needed someone to say that haha.
That's interesting and I've been wondering about moving content myself, and have thought of bulking up my site too. I've been posting content to sitet, but moving some Hubs there might help move the process along. What has been stopping me is that HP at this point is still my best earner. And I'm wanting to see how this move to niche sites goes.
Every once in awhile I get an AdSense click. That's about it. Makes my day though.
See if Hubpages will give you a 301 redirect to place it on your own site. That's the real way to move your content.
I doubt HP will give people an incentive to move good content elsewhere. I would not.
Why are people wanting to move their content? Look for the incentive in the answer to that question.
301s are not incentives.
Not using 301s is a disadvantage.
incentive: "a thing that motivates or encourages one to do something."
The incentive is the potential traffic/earnings. The 301 is an important piece of the work that needs to be done to gain that potential traffic/earnings.
Forget 301s. Nobody is going to give you a 301 for you to move content from here to your own site
The issues are
* "Is the content good enough to build traffic and fans?".
* You have to start again from scratch.
* It helps enormously if you have an independent blog where you can tell people where you have moved content to.
I've moved niche content to my own niche sites and, based on the stats I was looking at last night now get about ten times the traffic I got on HubPages.
However I'd note that it's a bunch of hubs related to one niche topic that make a difference.
One site on its own moving to its own niche site is unlikely to make it on its own - unless it's joining related content
It's joining related content that's doing fairly well, so hopefully it's going to do well there. Thanks
I have several niche sites that I have made over the years, and they have been very successful for me. However I have never moved any of my hubs onto those sites preferring to rewrite and improve on what I have here.
I have pages that are very similar to what I have on HP and they all do significantly better in the rankings on my own sites than HP does.
That's interesting. Did they always do better or is it only over the past few years.
My own sites have always done better (after an initial settling in period), however they are continuing to gain traffic even those that I have not added to, while my HP pages continue a "slow" decline even after making improvements and updates.
I am probably about 1/3 of the traffic that I was hitting a couple of years ago here and 1/6 of the earnings.
While my best performing site is currently hitting around $1k just in adsense each month...
SHUT-UP!!! Adsense $1K????
Those are really excellent earnings on Adsense alone. How big is this site of yours, if I may ask? Are you also selling products on Amazon etc...?
I agree. That is impressive to me too. I, of course, have heard of such earnings before, but it still always surprises me.
Site is about 60 pages only.....
I have other bigger sites that only get $100 a month or less - it all depends on the niche that you choose as to the ads that you will get.
If you write stuff that is only going to attract general "penny" ads then earnings will be low. Most of my earnings on adsense come from business related sites which do attract the better paying ads, while my sites that talk about working in Saudi Arabia while attracting more visitors do not attract the better paying ads.
And yes I do use Amazon and other affiliates - this is a full time job for me......
Thanks for that information, it makes sense. I don't think my writing attracts higher paying ads; been trying to build up one site in particular, thinking I just need more content. But it makes more sense that it has to do with higher paying ads: Or, more accurately, the lower paying ads my content attracts.
I rewrite and improve as I transfer - mainly because the options in the webware of the site they go to are so much better.
However in part that's also about just making up for the routine maintenance that needs doing on any site from time to time.
I also do updating when I move my articles. It's a good opportunty, and as MaM pointed out, we should be doing this anyway. Moving articles to my own sites has worked out for me. But I invested in training and I pay for a good keyword research tool. If you are serious about online writing/marketing, you probably need to spend a little bit of money.
I agree - doing your own site is not for people who want freebies - which is what I suspect attracts a lot of people to article sites.
I've now learned from both my blog and from doing articles what works and what doesn't and what's worth investing in!
I had my own niche sites before my Squidoo content was transferred to HubPages, and I decided shortly after the move to switch most of the articles that would fit elsewhere to my own sites. I make the AdSense payout for my own sites easily every month, because many of my articles are at the top of the search rankings for their topics.
This isn't as simple as transferring Hubs to another site, and setting up shop. I've been writing on my own sites since 1999, and have hundreds of articles related to a very narrow niche. It takes a long time to build up that depth of content, and to become an authority in your niche, but if you can do it, it does pay off, in a way that HubPages can't.
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