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HubPages To Charge for Forum Posts ??

  1. Eric Graudins profile image59
    Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago

    Hi,

    A little bird told me that HubPages are considering charging Forum Users for the amount of space that they take up when they reply to Forum posts, and quote screen after screen of someone elses comments above their own one line contributions.

    This makes the forums very hard to read, as it's hard to pick out your little nugget of truth out of the screenfulls of quotes, requotes, re-requotes, and re-re-requotes of other peoples stuff.

    This practice is clogging up the hub pages servers, and I have it on good authority that a fee is being considered for this waste of hub pages resources. The fee will be deducted from your HubPages earnings.

    So - just in case this is true, here's how to avoid paying this fee.

    When you click quote/reply on a forum post, remove all of the stuff that is not relevant to your reply. People who are following a thread don't need to keep wading through what everyone else has posted.

    Use your brains. If you are making a comment about a post which appears on the same page, it's not usually necessary to quote any of the original comment.

    If you're making a comment on something that appeared several pages back, usually a few sentences of the original post is sufficient.

    Yours,
    In the interests of saving you money -
    and reducing the wear and tear on PG DN keys,
    Eric G. :-)

    1. Zsuzsy Bee profile image83
      Zsuzsy Beeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      After seeing some of the threads that have been posted here in the forums lately you wonder if there is any of that left...
      Eric you're positively right. Thumbs up to you for pointing it out here.

    2. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You may want to add a disclaimer or something. Certain parts of the community never evolved irony genes and may take this seriously.

      Unfortunately - this is probably your target audience. wink

      1. Maddie Ruud profile image83
        Maddie Ruudposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Mark, I think YOU are his target audience: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/13547?page=4#post158816

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          LOL


          I think that was a technical glitch. Pretty good though - I have never seen quite that many in one go - but I couldn't work out how to clean it up and still keep the quotes from the other thread:(

          1. Everyday Miracles profile image93
            Everyday Miraclesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            That happens to me a lot, too. I once had something on a forum that was so cut and pasted that it couldn't be read. But if I didn't crop it, it would have looked like the one of yours that Maddie linked to!

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          ralwusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          good one. ROFLMAO

    3. WeddingConsultant profile image81
      WeddingConsultantposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Agreed 100%

      There is nothing more irritating than having someone reply to an uber long post.

      What's worse is when someone replies to someone's reply of an uber long post. You know what I mean?

      Maybe it's a good hub idea- forum etiquette at hubpages.

      If I may humbly add to the list of forum no-no's, it would be to hit the enter key after every sentence or two.

      This is generally how most forum posts get to be too long- too many enter keys are hit too frequently.

      1. Everyday Miracles profile image93
        Everyday Miraclesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        VERY good point, WC! I think it would make a great hub. I'm willing to write it. Might be good for me considering that I'm a culprit who writes exceptionally long forum posts in general.

        I would like to add that the quoted point of yours applies to anywhere that we write, be it on a forum, in an e-mail or in one of our hubs. I have just as much trouble reading a hub that is made up of very short paragraphs as I do with reading a hub that is made up of huge blocks of text.

        Thank you for the reminder!

      2. Research Analyst profile image78
        Research Analystposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I agree, I am glad that someone took the time to share on the proper way to post to the forums. smile

        1. WeddingConsultant profile image81
          WeddingConsultantposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          So is there a good rule of thumb for how many times we should quote previously replies? 10? Maybe even 20 times?

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            SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I have no idea WC. tongue

          2. Eric Graudins profile image59
            Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Well, I'm back from the wilderness with no internet, no mobile phone, and no TV.
            And I survived!




            No. Like I said in the original post - that's what your brain is for.

            @Maddie - I didn't consider Mark as my target audience - but thanks to your research skills, he is now lol

            @Blondepoet:
            Calm down - no need to fill your keyboard with sticky fluids.
            I wasn't saying anything about the length of someone's response to a forum post - just the problems caused when a poster includes replies to a post, and includes someone ELSE'S huge responses.

            @Whitney:
            Although HP can't directly take money from you, they theroretically  COULD juggle the precentage of advert impressions that you receive, and indirectly charge you that way :-)
            (But I'd take a guess that this wouldn't be popular.
            How's THAT for understatement smile

  2. AEvans profile image71
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    Eric are you honestly serious???? Really serious??? Wouldn't that take away from HP? smile One would think that some hubbers would pull there accounts and quit. smile

    1. Eric Graudins profile image59
      Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      About the fees - No.
      About deleting the unnecessary bits? - Yes.

      (See, that's how it's done. I deleted most of what AEvans said, and just left the relevant bit. It's pretty easy to do really smile )

      1. AEvans profile image71
        AEvansposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Ahhh that is nifty , operation erase and delete.smile

        1. mandybeau profile image61
          mandybeauposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What will happen if we don't er sorry make any money..Will we run up a humungus debt.

      2. aniketgore profile image69
        aniketgoreposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Good thought. Its essential to save hubpages resources. I don't wanna see hubpages saying OUT of Bandwidth like twitter.

    2. Whitney05 profile image63
      Whitney05posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You do realize that HP doesn't pay us right, so there isn't an actual HubPage earnings? Google, Amazon, Ebay, and Kontera pay, so HP wouldn't be able to take money away, unless they charged and it was all out of our pocket.

      So, to answer your question, no it wouldn't take from HP earnings. It would add to it.

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    SirDentposted 7 years ago

    He doesn't seem to be laughing AEvans.

    1. mandybeau profile image61
      mandybeauposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Good idea and waste no time implementing it. Does anyone believe him ???????????????

  4. Eric Graudins profile image59
    Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago

    Very Good AE!
    But you didn't delete anything.
    Have another try, and just leave the following words in the quote box:

    "About the fees - No.
    About deleting the unnecessary bits? - Yes."

    1. GeneriqueMedia profile image61
      GeneriqueMediaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      A clever puzzle.

      And for instance, this line is filler. wink

      G|M

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      SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Like this!!!!!!!!!  tongue

    3. AEvans profile image71
      AEvansposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Did I do it??big_smile

      1. Marisa Wright profile image93
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Almost there - you deleted the unnecessary words but left all the white space!

        1. AEvans profile image71
          AEvansposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you Marissa for checking it.smile

  5. Eric Graudins profile image59
    Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago

    Yes Sir Dent - Exactly like that !

    Well Done.

    Well, I'll leave you all to it now.
    I'm going somewhere for a couple of days where there probably isn't internet access.
    Hope I survive :-)

    1. GeneriqueMedia profile image61
      GeneriqueMediaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      *slaps a cable patch onto Eric* Good luck indeed.

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      SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You will make it OK. wink

    3. sheenarobins profile image79
      sheenarobinsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL. I'm seriously considering myself as one who won't survive without it after tweeting for 3 days!

  6. Eric Graudins profile image59
    Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago

    @ GeneriqueMedia:
    Thanks.
    But you're not really getting the point of this whole post!
    Which is to chop out the quoted bits that are not needed smile

  7. GeneriqueMedia profile image61
    GeneriqueMediaposted 7 years ago

    Haha, I already do that (most of the time, and at least with ever increasing regularity). I'm being a rebel. wink

  8. darkside profile image80
    darksideposted 7 years ago

    It's about time this was brought up. I was going to a few times, in fact I do believe I mentioned to a certain J.U. that great big slabs of text need not be quoted every single time. Hit post to reply generally, and if there is something specific you need to reply to so people don't lose track of the conversation, do as Mr Graudins has suggested, delete everything but the bit you're responding to.

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    badcompany99posted 7 years ago

    I was about to say that, jeeez I will be in debt.

  10. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    I agree...

    Concise enough? smile

  11. ngureco profile image86
    ngurecoposted 7 years ago

    Eric can bite and soothe at the same time. His message in this thread is fully loaded and well intended.

  12. sheenarobins profile image79
    sheenarobinsposted 7 years ago

    Eric,

    Thank you for that. I couldn't possibly allow them to chunk my $1 something earnings. LOL

    This info you posted is actually helpful for hubpages. Thanks.

  13. Everyday Miracles profile image93
    Everyday Miraclesposted 7 years ago

    It does help bandwidth, but it also helps readers. It's confusing to see things quoted four or five posts included in the most recent post.

    I also need to take into consideration what one hubber (can't remember who!) said about making it a hub if it's long enough to be one! Yikes!

  14. Lifebydesign profile image73
    Lifebydesignposted 7 years ago

    Good stuff Eric, I'm off to practise smile

  15. Dame Scribe profile image60
    Dame Scribeposted 7 years ago

    lol bc99, lol ... same here

  16. Everyday Miracles profile image93
    Everyday Miraclesposted 7 years ago

    ROFL @ Maddie and Mark!

  17. blondepoet profile image79
    blondepoetposted 7 years ago

    Oh EG this is insane.It will never work with me I always have so much to say, I do not understand the word condensing. I know of the word Condensed Milk,mmmmmmmmm, I wish I had some right now....maybe not a real good idea my keyboard gets so sticky LMAO. See how could I have said all this to you in one sentence.This is important details I am exchanging with you

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    shreekrishnaposted 7 years ago

    damn ,

    this is fictitious ,

    eric , only wan't good answers , not unwanted ,

    or eiter ,

    he is worth trying to improve her image on hubpages.

    good luck,
    eric.

    i alredy don't post any unrelated materials.
    so ,
    if you were saying true.
    i don't want to worry about this.

  19. blondepoet profile image79
    blondepoetposted 7 years ago

    Oh Eric G you were just making this up. Ohhhhhhhhhhh. You are such a character you are you had me going.Ooooooooo. Twenty a spankings for you,over my knee you go. Would you rather I used a wooden spoon or my fly swatter. Hang on I don't have a fly swatter, my gran did.Mmmm what else can I use......will have to be a frypan

    1. Eric Graudins profile image59
      Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      And no doubt you'd bring your usual film crew, and end up selling this on the internet, with all your other home movies. I'm awake up to you smile

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        well ive deleted ,now Im not sure how this is gonna submit ,oh be gentle with me Hub Police lol.
        I think it's great NOT having all those posts squished all together,and one night I called hubby over to read one of them ,and he couldnt figure out who said what ,in fact his response was "what the hell are those people on" lol

  20. cashmere profile image84
    cashmereposted 7 years ago

    Fantastic idea. Totally approve of these space saving techniques!

  21. mandybeau profile image61
    mandybeauposted 7 years ago

    I know could we start a Club..... This loser sold a painting today, so I think my Art is where I will head in future. What are the Medals, I don't know if I have any, and can I wear them out in public Just joking.

  22. mandybeau profile image61
    mandybeauposted 7 years ago

    Well I as another loser will happily read it. Do you feel if we brush up on self esteem, we may cease to be losers, I might hang on to that thought. Thnx for that I was soooo down.... I have a medal for doing 100 Hubs, and having 5000 views they happened ages ago..... I can't believe I missed them. Sort of like being a War Hero, I think they call them reluctant Heroes, because they lack the ablity to see that they have done something Heroic.
    You have truly made my Day....!!!!!!!!!

  23. mandybeau profile image61
    mandybeauposted 7 years ago

    My colleagues have sat here for the last hour reading all the Hubs, they think you are " Quite a card, (I said he is a Pirate ! so dissappointing that it may be they don't think you are a Loser, you will have to try harder. Two are professional and Jacqui is a Lawyer, I tend to take advise from successful people Funny eh.. But then I am a total loser. hahahahahaha
    Sadly there some Forums, that they believed werent, worth posting. None thankfully mine, nor yours, Do you think we could be loosing the Loser touch. I am off to Work now.
    Cheers

  24. mandybeau profile image61
    mandybeauposted 7 years ago

    Eric I can see you getting on the list ease off a bit it is a scary place to be, its accidental, but you can easily find yourself there. haha just joking.

    1. Eric Graudins profile image59
      Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If there's something interesting to respond to, or people to communicate with in the short time I spend here I'll do so.

      I don't care about where I am on some smeggin' list
      (But thanks for the warning. If I get to the top of it, do I win a pony or something ??? )

      1. mandybeau profile image61
        mandybeauposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No actually I think I just hand over the Trophy I had no idea I would receive when i got on a List, I handed actually noticed.  Its real ugly and a Dust collector.

      2. mandybeau profile image61
        mandybeauposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        What does smeggin mean...???????????????

  25. jcales profile image73
    jcalesposted 7 years ago

    becoming green on the internet..OK now we are talking.

  26. Pete Maida profile image62
    Pete Maidaposted 7 years ago

    I am wondering if this is the start of something.  There was a story on the news about Twitter preparing to charge people.  If they do I'm gone from there.  I can handle the quote thing becaue I rarely do that.  If charges start coming down for other operations I will be history.

    1. mandybeau profile image61
      mandybeauposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Twitter is a pain full of twitterworms and viruses, I wouldn't touch it with a 10' disinfected Bargepole.

    2. darkside profile image80
      darksideposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Source?



      I presume Eric is a fan of Red Dwarf: Smeg which I thought was derived from the word Smegma.

      1. Eric Graudins profile image59
        Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Correct smile

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 7 years ago

    Eric why are you so bossy..???????

    1. mandybeau profile image61
      mandybeauposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I agree

    2. Eric Graudins profile image59
      Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Bossy? Please explain ??? hmm

 
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