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Amazon and E-Bay Ads on Niche Sites

  1. sallybea profile image97
    sallybeaposted 8 months ago

    Are Amazon and E-Bay Ads no longer permissible on the new Niche Sites,   I have not seen any and I keep on hearing that Ads have been snipped from Hubs before articles were moved. 

    If so, is the pay structure identical to that on the Mother Site?

    1. AnnaMKB profile image88
      AnnaMKBposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Some of my most popular hubs got unfeatured until I removed the Amazon modules, no matter how relevant they were.  This is the primary reason I've stopped writing for HubPages.  They don't seem to want people to actually make any money from their hubs.

      1. sallybea profile image97
        sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        It certainly is a worrying trend and earnings or the lack of opportunity for earnings is something which needs to be addressed and openly discussed.

      2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image93
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 months ago in reply to this

        You probably were not following the new guidelines.  Don't blame HP for your mistake.

        1. AnnaMKB profile image88
          AnnaMKBposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          I spoke directly with them.  I jumped their hoops.  They were WELL within guidelines.  The only thing that got my most popular hubs featured again was removing the amazon modules.  So take your sanctimonious assumptions and shove them.  HP is screwing up and THEY need to own up to THEIR problems.

          1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image93
            TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 months ago in reply to this

            Really?  Perhaps you should read Christie's most current post below.

            1. AnnaMKB profile image88
              AnnaMKBposted 8 months ago in reply to this

              What they say and what actually happens are two different things.

    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image93
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 months ago in reply to this

      I don't think anything has changed because Solaras posted that her ads were kept on articles that were transferred.

    3. Christy Kirwan profile image
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      Christy Kirwanposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Hi Sally,

      We are still permitting Hubbers to earn from product capsules on niche sites, and you will still see Hubs on sites with products listed.

      We are, however, being more strict with product listings than on HubPages.com. Products are most likely to be allowed to stay if they are on a Hub intended for shoppers (list of best products for a specific purpose, in-depth reviews for a specific product, etc). On Hubs where the reader is not there to shop but to find information or solve a problem, products will only be allowed if they are discussed as important to the process (e.g. explain that a particular pair of clippers work best for a certain task in your how-to dog grooming Hub and explain why your readers should consider investing in them and what you like about them).

      As always, when you add products, remember to mention your personal experience with the item and what you like or dislike about it and what you use it for. Personal experience is a major component to proper product inclusion.

      1. sallybea profile image97
        sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        Hi Christy,
        Perfect, a great explanation and I do think the past few days have brought some  great advice on how the capsules should be used..  I know it has made me feel that I can improve this aspect of my writing.  Thank you very much, your input is much appreciated.
        Sally

        1. Christy Kirwan profile image
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          Christy Kirwanposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          My pleasure. We do want Hubbers to succeed and to keep making money, but we also want to be more cautious with the new sites to avoid the Panda penalties imposed on HubPages.

          While we've updated the product use info in the Learning Center and also made a few blog post in the past year on products, many Hubbers have simply not had time to review the new guidelines or make the changes to their old Hubs. We don't want simple product issues to prevent otherwise great Hubs from succeeding on the new sites, which is why products are what Mods end up snipping most often.

          Once we have a better idea of exactly what we're looking for on each site, we intend to make more site-specific guidelines available to Hubbers too in order to give everyone the best chance possible of having Hubs accepted.

          1. Kylyssa profile image95
            Kylyssaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            That's excellent news! There will be a lot less need for editors to work on hubs written to comply with each site's submission guidelines.

          2. sallybea profile image97
            sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            Thanks Christy.

  2. Thelma Alberts profile image80
    Thelma Albertsposted 8 months ago

    I want to know the answer, too. Thanks for asking the question sallybea.

    1. sallybea profile image97
      sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      If the pay structure stays the same this will certainly change the outlook for many writers here.

      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image93
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 months ago in reply to this

        I don't think anything will change either with the structure or the rules for placing ads.

        1. sallybea profile image97
          sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          If the Ads are being stripped before they are placed on the site, then there will be very little revenue for the writer or HubPages.

          1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image93
            TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 months ago in reply to this

            Your making assumptions based on info you don't have.  Relax.  They want to make money, too.  Give this some time.  People who are having ads removed probably are not using them correctly.

            1. sallybea profile image97
              sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

              You are right, I don't have the info which is why I posed the question.

  3. Titia profile image88
    Titiaposted 8 months ago

    Few weeks ago two of my hubs were edited before being moved to Pethelpful and were stripped of all amazon products I had on them despite their relevancy. Also every picture of a product which I thought was relevant to show people how it looked like, has been removed. In one hub they had even removed significant information and only after my protest they were willing to put it back. I always use my own pictures and they've removed several of them. They've removed the photo galeries I had and put all pictures one below the other sidewide. They joined capsules and moved text around. As English is not my native language I decided not to argue about grammar.

    I'v let it be so far because I have no time at the moment to move the hubs elsewhere. Views were cut by half right after the move, but now they are back to what they were before, but they are not getting more views than they had before. So actually I see no difference in performance between the old hubs and edited hubs.

    1. sallybea profile image97
      sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      And thereby hangs my dilemma.  I would not want my images removed, as they are all mine and relevant to every Tutorial I write..  The Amazon and E-Bays ads at the moment amount to nearly half of my earnings and without those earnings there would be very little reason to stay.  I am fast going off the idea of the thought of these niche sites.  In truth I don't even like the layout of them.

      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image93
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 months ago in reply to this

        Well Sallybea, you're not going to have a choice.  If they decide to use your hubs in the niche sites, you'll have no say in the matter.  At that point you can either remove them from HP or just wait and see how they do.  I do believe that they are very picky about photo quality, so if the ones you have are not really good, they'll be gone.  As for the ads, that will be up to them, too.

        Remember that this is an experiment, so they are feeling their way.  The first hubs that are moved will have the most problems, and the team will learn from their mistakes.  Those of us who will be last will probably fare better.

        1. sallybea profile image97
          sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          Well then, they will have to do the tutorial if they need images for the hubs because without doing that the tutorial will make no sense to anyone at all:) I would like to be a fly on the wall as they all learn to become felt makers.
          I don't think quality will be an issue as I have done photography for a long time now but I am certainly in no hurry to move to the niche sites.

          1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image93
            TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 months ago in reply to this

            I've seen your photos and don't think you have anything to worry about.

            1. sallybea profile image97
              sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

              I agree I don't think I have a problem.

  4. Kylyssa profile image95
    Kylyssaposted 8 months ago

    All of my Amazon ads were left intact on my hubs that have moved to PetHelpful. Each of my moved hubs that has ads on it has two. The hubs' word counts range from 1,600 to 2,500 words.

    1. sallybea profile image97
      sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      That is good to know and have you managed to achieve any sales through the niche sites yet?

      1. Kylyssa profile image95
        Kylyssaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        They've made no sales yet, but the hubs have only been there a few days or have been blocked as spam by Pinterest after the move. I don't think we'll have a clear picture of things until the Pinterest situation is worked out.

        I put an average of a hundred words about each item as it relates to the exact topic in the hub. For example, I explain that an iodine supplement is necessary for porcupine puffers' thyroid health and tell readers why I like the one I use on my hub about caring for porcupine puffers. I don't explain as much about the book I sell on the same hub because it's clear it's about caring for puffer fish which is the exact topic of the hub.

        I hope some of that helps, at least to give some idea what sort of Amazon ads are making it onto the vertical sites.

        1. sallybea profile image97
          sallybeaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          Thanks Kylyssa  that is helpful for everyone.

          1. gerimcclym profile image86
            gerimcclymposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            Yes, indeed.

 
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