paradigmsearch, Ahem. I wish I knew encryption right now. Do you recall the "chat" of a week or so ago about me using PNGs with no white space? I found a few and used two on an older hub. And even told Christy, a HP editor, about it, but she would have to use her detective skills to find it. I did all this while the theme for "The Sting" was softly playing in the background.