I just joined Niume and created my first post. Very, very surprised to see all the sharing buttons! I'm guessing this means sharing is not considered duplicate content. I really like the platform, so easy to use! Can't wait to create more posts. Much easier than Wordpress, but I'll still keep my new Wordpress account open, too.
Now, for Wizzley. I opened an account, wrote my first article four days later and my account was practically immediately suspended! No idea why, cuz it was original content and I'm sure I didn't break any rules....
Signed up for Writedge & Dailytwocents, too. Sent an email over a week ago with links to some of my Hubs. Haven't heard from either one.
Guess I'm sticking with HubPages, Niume & Wordpress. Unless anyone has any advice or knowledge about Writedge, Dailytwocents, or any other revenue sharing sites.
I have a big problem with Niume. It's an easy-to-use platform that earns practically zilch. The problem is that because it's so easy to use, it's tempting to keep using it because it's fun, and that means it's taking up time - time you could be using to actually earn a few cents.
I think you should be encouraged that Writedge and Dailytwocents aren't giving an immediate reply. It shows that they're discerning about whom they accept. I would consider DailyTwoCents if they accept you - apart from HubPages, it's the only article-writing site where you stand a chance of making more than pennies.
Okay, thank you for your thoughts. I take it I could still hear from Writedge & Dailytwocents. I just have to wait a little longer, I guess.
I joined CritiqueCircle today. Still checking it out, because it feels so weird of an idea to share my story with complete strangers online, you know? I guess, though, it isn't much different than an in person workshop when it comes to whether or not someone is going to steal your story.
The good thing about CC is that it's all password protected, so your work is visible only to members.
It has never occurred to me to worry about people stealing my story. It's not as if I'm so good my novel will make a fortune, so why would anyone bother?
The other point is, you're only posting one chapter at a time (one per week). Once you've received critiques on that chapter, you can either hide it, or delete it altogether. It would be a patient person who steals your work one chapter at a time.
If you get a premium membership (which I'm guessing you won't at this stage), then you can post the whole novel for critique, but you do it in a private queue and you choose who you invite to it.
Makes sense, lol. I'm just super sensitive, I guess. I've been into taking risks lately and was trying to figure out how much of a risk it is to post there.
You're right about Niume. I enjoy writing for this site, however, as you've stated the pay is not worth my time. In addition to this I've neglected writing for hub pages since joining. I'm correcting this right now.
Niume looks like fun, but I can see why Marisa says it probably won't make a person much money. I might join it just so I can post some short pieces for fun, which is something I want to do sometimes, though in a way I feel like I might as well set up a Blogger blog for that since it would make about the same amount of money - though there is some advantage to belonging to a community like Niume; exposure might be more assured if the community actively reads other writers' work.
I have an account at Daily Two Cents which I hardly use. It was making very little money and was just extra work that I could be putting into Hubpages where I do make money or my own sites that make a little too. I personally felt very little advantage to writing at DTC.
My experience is that the only real viable options are Hubpages and your own site(s). On your own sites you're free to monetize the way you please which can be a pretty good advantage. But if you do that, you have to have knowledge of what will sell, what gets traffic and how to sell.
Wizzley is a great site, but I haven't been able to earn anything there. If you can get in there, you will find that the community and admin are very good people and the environment is friendly. It's also easy to publish once you get your foot in the door. They are pretty strict about what they allow though, which I think is understandable for practical reasons.
Thanks for your reply. I'm working towards my own site, but I know it's going to be a while. In the meantime, I'm looking to "gain experience" so I have a good idea of what my site will be about and look like when I am ready for it.
I might give Wizzley another shot, with a different name and email. Just not sure, kinda PO'd about being locked out without being given a reason.
I know what you mean about Wizzley. They actually rejected my first article. Then I wrote another one they approved and eventually got the full approval after writing a few more articles so that I could write without the review process. I was unhappy at first too, it was frustrating.. But they are kind of strict, they don't want to run afoul of the powers that be.
Yes, I am always happy when I find it difficult to join a site, it means they're maintaining standards.
Interesting to hear you haven't earned much on Wizzley or DailyTwoCents. I still have some articles on Wizzley and I also find they don't earn much. I had heard good things about DailyTwoCents but that was some time ago - I must say, I was surprised at the time, because they didn't look anything special. But apparently, early on, Google had them classified as a "news site" not a content site, and that gave them an advantage. Sounds like that has changed and it's now just another content site. I will now stop mentioning them to people!
I joined Writedge and DailyTwoCents back when they actually paid. Now both are AdSense only, and both pull very low CPMs.
DTC has never been a winner for me. I still have 29 DTC articles up, and 33 on Writedge. In December I had a total of 190 unique views on WE, and exactly 3 on DTC. My best month in the last year was July, with 550 on WE and 4 for DTC. Every once in a while, WE actually makes a contribution of a few cents to my AdSense total. DTC, never.
I haven't posted anything new on either site since they changed their payment model and would pull the articles I already have if there was anyplace else to put them. At this point I figure a penny is better than nothing, so I leave them there.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. It's been almost two weeks since I applied with them and I'm still waiting to see if I'm accepted. At this point I'm checking into other opportunities.
I could have handled having an article rejected for some reason or other, even if not given a reason because then I could have tried to figure it out for myself or simply tried another. But locked out of my account? I'm just not ever in the mood for that kind of nonsense.
I agree. I was writing on one site where they were reviewing articles and rejecting them for various trivial reasons and I finally deleted my account and I'm planning on moving my articles to my own sites. The money made was completely insignificant and the trouble not worth it. This is why I said only HP and my own sites are viable to me at this point.
The reason you aren't earning at Wizzley is that the site doesn't make much. About a year ago, I checked a site on Google which gives the approximate money that sites make. Wizzley was about $3000 per month.
About two years ago, I heard hear that writers on WrightEdge and Daily Two Cents were doing well. I posted a lot of articles there and never made a dime. I eventually closed my accounts there. InfoBarrel seems a pretty good site and they have high standards, but after a year, have only made pennies there. Do not know about the others.
Yeah, I'm hearing all types of things about various sites, so I thought I'd check them out for myself. However, I'm suddenly thinking I shouldn't bother, and go for other ways of making a little money, like contests or straight freelance work. Thinking it'll give me better options.
If you need to make money, then stop looking at the internet for ideas and start looking at the real world. Almost anything will make more money than writing online!
If you want to make small amounts of money quickly, Fiverr is a much better bet than contests.
Don't think that building a profile as a writer on these sites is somehow going to contribute to your success when you write your book, by the way. I had a sobering conversation with a published author on CC. She also spent years writing on sites like HubPages, and had a very successful blog. She said it was all useless when she started writing novels, because the audience she needed to reach was completely different. And her publisher told her to choose another pen name, because they didn't want her fiction "persona" connected to her non-fiction one.
Agreed. I have one Fiverr gig that gets me maybe 10 orders per month, for 5 mins work apiece.
And as for writing as a serious business - if you plan to do it that way, create your own website (on Wordpress hosted, not Wordpress.com).
You keep all the earnings, you can monetise in multiple ways and customise it how you want. Third party writing sites are only there as a foot in the water, and to learn about SEO and content writing. I'd expect that anyone who had written 200 or more third party articles would be ready to at least try and create their own site.
Yep, working toward my own website. Just want to solidify my approach before I spend too much time and money on something that ends up in the trash bin because it needs a major overhaul. I'd much rather know what I'm doing going in, instead of doing a complete 90 degree or 180 turn after less than six months. Getting my feet wet, ya know?
I am looking for extra money, pocket change, ya know? Thanks, I'll check into Fiverr, too. Thanks for the advice re: pen names & online personas. Now I'm in a bit of a quandary.....
If you're comfortably off and you're just looking for a little pocket money, then do whatever you enjoy. Most other revenue-sharing sites, contests, surveys etc will pay you a few cents per hour at best, but if you're having fun, who cares?
If there is any affiliate agreement, writers lie in order to get you to join up.
Duplicate content is when someone copies your article on their website. If they claim it is theirs, that is plagerism. Sharing headlines and links is fine.
I guess Niume is the site that pays one dollar for a thousand views.
If you can generate a thousand views without much effort it would be wise to expose your own site to such viewers.
You could sell advertising space to online marketers at $0.001 per page view, which earns for you a buck for every 1000 views per ad you host.
Get 5 regulars to advertise with you and you make five bucks per 1000 page views.
In addition you could also add links pointing to your affiliate programs.
Of course the advertisers need to be aware that they are paying for exposures and not clicks.
Quicksand forgot to mention one little point.
No advertiser is going to buy ANY advertising on your site until you can prove you're getting several thousand visitors a month.
I need to rebuild my author platform and get in touch with what is happening now. The last few years have been hectically busy and I have done no marketing or article writing. But seeing all the changes since I last went on Hubpages, makes me wonder if I can get up there again. Looks complicated.
It sure does, doesn't it? But you can do it, because you already did it once. Me? I'm completely new to it because years ago all I really did was HP, and then I didn't even stay active for very long. If I can get the hang of it, you sure can!
Hi Cindy and welcome back! The first thing I'd suggest is to take a look at my Hub on the essential rules - you'll find it in the slider on my profile. It summarises all the new rules, which are not really that complicated, but there are lots of subtle differences from the old days.
The other big difference is that HubPages is splitting up into multiple sites, each specialising in a particular category. That's good news because that's what Google likes! Your goal should be to improve all your Hubs so they meet the criteria for the niche sites (which, basically, means making sure they obey all the rules AND tick most of the Stellar Hub boxes).
People are still pretty confused about the new changes, so you'll see a lot of misinformation being bandied around in the forums at times - be careful!
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