Do you use the submit to niche queue after corrections

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   tsmogposted 6 years ago

   I recived a note from HubPages an article is eligible for a niche site. The notes at the bottom stated to check grammar. I have done corrections using grammarly and one other editing software. The question is do I wait for them to review or do I go through the process of submitting to a niche site?

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      Ian McKayposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I have had far more success waiting for the site to move it. They always seem to reject it if I submit one and then move it themselves a week later which makes no sense at all.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Ian, do you mean brand new Hubs or old ones? 
         
         When you write a brand new Hub, you should NOT use the "Submit to a network site" button.  Brand new Hubs are automatically considered for the niche sites within the first few weeks after publication.   If you try submitting it at that point, it will be rejected because it's already in the queue. 
         
         If a brand new Hub hasn't been moved after a month or so, you can assume it's been rejected - so there's absolutely no  point submitting it again.  You have to revise and improve it first, then try submitting it.

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            Ian McKayposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Ok, I didn't know that, but I leave it with them now anyway. If it's good enough it will get moved, if not, it won't lol

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            Jesse Drzalposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I have used the ''submit'' on new Hubs I knew they would take, just to speed it up so I can do my thing. The definitely took them more quickly. I don't really have anything older to submit so that's what I did a few times.

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               TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

               I have found that when I write a new hub, they move it almost immediately...sometimes even the same day.

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            Jan Saintsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            "If a brand new Hub hasn't been moved after a month or so, you can assume it's been rejected." But who said this?!

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               Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               I can't recall if anyone actually said those words, but it's obvious, isn't it?
               
               Every brand new Hub is now automatically assessed for the niche sites.  Therefore if a brand new Hub doesn't get moved to a niche site, it must have failed to meet the standard for the niche site.   
               
               Sometimes it seems to take a while to go through the assessment process, that's why I suggest waiting a month before assuming that it's been rejected.

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                  Jeremy Gillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I wonder if editors ever encounter Hubs they feel are of adequate quality to move, but the topic doesn't relate enough to any of the niche sites, so the Hub isn't moved.

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                     Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     HubPages went to great lengths to map all their categories to the niche sites.  So if you were able to find a category for it on HubPages, there's a niche site somewhere for it.
                     
                     Personally I think some subjects don't fit well where they've put them (for instance, dance on Hobbylark).
                     
                     What does sometimes happen is that a Hub is good enough quality, but they already have several Hubs on the niche sites covering exactly the same ground.

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                        Jeremy Gillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        You're right Marisa, the categories cover just about everything. I've also encountered cases where a Hub fits two or more niche sites well (Hobbylark and Reelrundown in particular), but in those cases one is simply selected.
                        
                        HubPages and its staff are doing a great job, and I mean no offense to anyone, but it seems that articles published before the niche sites were made are often overlooked. Still, I suppose that's why we have the submit article button.

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                           Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           You could also say that those old articles had their chance and have already been found wanting!
                           
                           You may recall that the niche sites were originally formed by taking all the  successful Hubs from the HubPages main site.   The statistic was something like 80% of the main site's traffic was generated by 20% of the Hubs.  That 20% was easy to identify and move en masse. 
                           
                           So, that obviously means the 80% left on HubPages - all the remaining "old articles" - were generating only 20% of the site's total traffic, suggesting that they simply weren't making the grade with Google!   That's why HubPages has been so cautious about moving them to the niche sites and in fact, I'm slightly surprised they're even bothering.

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                              Jeremy Gillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              Hm, admittedly the old cynic in me feels uneasy about numbers rather than quality dictating the decision, but I can definitely understand it on a business level. Thanks for your wisdom on the subject!

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                                 Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                 HubPages exists to make money.  How does it make money?   By attracting readers - over 90% of them via Google.   Therefore HubPages' overarching priority must be to display articles that rank highly on Google.
                                 
                                 We can pore over Google's quality guidelines and check page rank till we're blue in the face, but the proof is in the pudding.  If an article is getting a lot of traffic from Google, it means Google perceives it as meeting its quality guidelines, and is ranking it high enough for readers to see it.  Why wouldn't you choose those articles above all others?

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      Sherry Hewinsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, absolutely. Submit the hub again as soon as you think it is ready. If they have already suggested corrections they won't count it again for the 14 day rule. Good luck to you.

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         tsmogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you. I took the plunge and submitted. I am guessing the same editor is responsible for certain niche sites. I dun'no . . . if it passes great, if not I learned.

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      vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I always re submit after making the necessary changes.

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Resubmit to the niche site after you have done the corrections. It will immediately be accepted for review even if the two weeks aren't up.  I find that the hub is usually posted on the niche site within a day after I resubmit.  However, I've been waiting over a week for my last resubmission. Maybe it is because of the holiday.

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Submit it immediately.  Doing this will not count against your 14 day time limit for submissions.

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      NessMovieReviewsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Did you purchase grammerly or just use it free? What other online site did you use?

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   Carola Finchposted 6 years ago

   It is OK to use the submit to niche site button after you have revised an article.  I have used it several times.  It does not interfere with the fourteen days rule.

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   Jesse Drzalposted 6 years ago

   What Sherry said.

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   Kenna McHughposted 6 years ago

   Yes. I do. It works.

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   NessMovieReviewsposted 6 years ago

   Ive tried to resubmit and a message flags that the hub has to wait the predetermined time so I am unsure how anyone is resubmitting before that. I recently received an email from my submission that cited a couple of changes required but also said congratulations it was ready, which is confusing. Im assuming they meant, they liked it but wouldnt take it untill the edits were done. Reading through the required changes, Ive found they are quite strict on how they like things to look. Im going to have to change a fair bit on mine to meet their standard with regard to formatting. They dont like lists, however in hints and tips, lists are promoted. Ill get there, its just finding the formula. Im quite frustrated with a particular writer I recently saw on the niche site that can hardly speak English has a few published. Doesnt even sound like the other stuff on their page and a second article I saw waa practically a repeat of the first. Sigh

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      Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      The first thing you need to do is take another look at that email.
      
      You'll find that 90% of it is a standard email. You can safely ignore it. If your Hub has already been picked for a niche site, it's likely none of it applies to your Hub.
      
      At the end of the email, there is usually a short note, giving you one or two specific issues that need attention. That's what you need to fix. Once you've addressed that, you can resubmit.

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         NessMovieReviewsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks - I'm going to run it through a grammar check tool just in case and then tweak a few places to be more specific. Ive since gone back to the niche site to look at formatting and notices a few similar things they all have that I will edit mine to as well although that will be time consuming - I think once it becomes stansardised - I will hope fully see some selected instead of have to submit.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            My advice - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  If HubPages likes it the way it is, except for the specific issue mentioned at the end of the email, then accept that judgment.   After all, if you change too much, you might change the very thing they like about it!
            
            Don't worry about formatting either.   Many of us spent hours changing the formatting to "suit" the niche sites months ago, only to find that HubPages changed its mind about the best formatting recently.  You may even be looking at Hubs which aren't in the recommended format (for instance, the early Hubs had Callout capsules instead of sub-headings - now that's frowned on, but those Hubs haven't been reformatted to reflect that).
            
            No matter how much work you do on existing Hubs, it's likely you'll have to manually submit them.   HubPages did a big sweep of the main site when the niche sites were created, and picked up all the best-performing Hubs then. The moderators are kept so busy with new Hubs and submitted Hubs, I don't expect they have much time left to go back over old Hubs which were already passed over in the first sweep.  They do pick up the odd one but I don't think it's that frequent.

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               TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Actually, I've found that they review numerous hubs that I've updated.  They always send an email saying that they did so and that the hub is fine.

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                  Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I've noticed that if you update a Hub that's on a niche site, they do check it. I'm pretty sure that's to make sure the quality on the niche sites stays high.   
                  
                  The OP is talking about revising and improving Hubs which are still on HubPages, in hopes that they'll be noticed and moved without having to submit.

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   Kenna McHughposted 6 years ago

   I do and it works.

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   SoaresJCSLposted 6 years ago

   Yes!

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   vocalcoachposted 6 years ago

   Sometimes I do.  Often I Waite for a notificationalerting me that a hub has been selected.

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