Have you looked at her Hubs? Is she just copying text from someplace else? Are they original?
I saw that when I was viewing new hubs and was surprised. Maybe lots of article written, saved and then published.
I only looked at a couple, but they seem to be original. Not very well written (although I've seen much worse), but original.
I haven't Copyscaped her, but kudos to Jenny for publishing 1 hub /1 hour rate. This one is the Hub Challenge winner, no doubt LoL!
I hate to disparage anyone without getting to know them. They could be all original and written and saved. I took one of the hubs and pulled a phrase, placed in quotes, and checked with Google. Don't want to waste time doing that with all of them. I suspect they are not simply copied and pasted.
They are all high paying keyword hubs. I suspect that the articles were outsourced. You could easily pay $500-$700 for 100 keyword articles and put them on HubPages so that you could focus on driving traffic. Who cares if Hubbers fan you or read your articles? They don't generate any income anyway. Consider that it is taking me anywhere from 1-3+ hours to create my hubs plus time to interact on forums and come up with the ideas. To get 100 done would represent about 400 hours of work. At the 15-20 hours per week that I am devoting, it will take a lot of time to get to that number.
$700/400 hours is just under $2 per hour. Sounds like a good investment with more reward and minimal risk. Unfortunately, I just like the idea that I am producing my own material from scratch.
I was not disparaging anyone. I was just commenting on an odd event.
Im sure this was discussed before, but should't it exist some kind of daily limit to posting hubs?
Oh no, I am sorry and didn't mean to imply that you were. I was trying to say that to myself. Please take no offense. And I think the daily limit to prevent this type of event is a reasonable idea depending on the purpose of this site.
Why have a limit? It may be that this author is just starting fresh on a new platform or new author name. But I don't see how her content affects anyone else.
Maybe it's just my narrowed view but releasing so much hubs in so little amount of time feels like spam to me, even if it's original content.
Of course from a marketing sense it does not mater, but it kind of offends my blogger side ^_^'
I had a lot of articles already done before I started hubpages, however, I only published a certain few. She may have had so many and just decided to publish them all when she signed up...giving her the benefit that they are all originals.
If you will notice, it hasn't done her hubscore any favors.
hp lets you have multiple accounts thus multiple alias
there are software packages available that will spin/rewrite you articles
you can buy articles written by humans for $5 or less
these hubs are targetin high paying keywords
this hubber is trying to make money online using techniques that gurus are selling via ebooks and programs
this hubber is writing about his personal experiences using these techniques
http://www.makemoneyonlinewithseo.com/h … line-fast/
the first "this hubber" refers to the hubber mentioned in the thread
the second "this hubber" refers to the hubber in the attached link
Well, I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, but seriously, what happened to good ol' fashion hard work?
well, there are alot of people who are making alot of money teaching others how to make money on the web and when they do, the students use the techniques
I like to write my own stuff, but others have a different goal
Doesn't matter a rats. Unless by "hard work" you mean niche analysis, keyword research, copywriting, backlinking.
It also depends what you are trying to achieve at HubPages. What's your goal?
To maximise the money you earn? Or to write quality content.
The two are rarely compatible.
Cheers, Eric G.
Maybe they enjoy providing employment to other people? Seriously in this economy there are a lot of people who would jump at the chance to be paid $5 per article or even $2 upfront by someone else, without having to worry about keyword selection, promotion, backlinks and all the rest of it. Who are we to say to them, sorry we want to ban the entrepreneurs who are sending you this work?
If we took the attitude that no-one could employ other people, and everyone had to do all the "good ol' fashioned hard work" themselves, a lot of people would get laid off.
In an ideal world of course everyone would know how to maximise their income so there wouldn't be just a few people who "get it" and who then employ others to do their grunt work - everyone would get it and be able to reap the maximum profit from their efforts. Sadly it's not like that.
I expect the people writing the outsourced articles feel that they are making more money working for someone else than going it alone. In a sense all of us on Hubpages feel we will make more money here than going it alone with our own websites - in fact Hubpages itself has "outsourced" their content production to us, and keeps a slice of the profits. This is business. The blogger mentioned in the OP is actually using the exact same model, she is just further down the chain.
Why would hubpages want to limit the number of hubs that anyone can post?
After all, their goal is to have as many hubs as possible on their system.
It's entirely possible that Jenny has researched and written the content herself.
Or perhaps she has had it commissioned, or has rewritten or "spun" private label content. This is what all internet marketers do these days.
This is what Hubpages want. And encourage. And reward.
A clever programmer could probably write write a program that would generate original articles of a type acceptable to HubPages, and automatically post them to hubpages at the rate of hundreds - or thousands - per hour.
The name of the game is number of hubs, number of visitors, and revenue generated.
If you are under the illusion that HubPages is only a place for purist writers who agonise for days over a hub, and that your work is placed on a pedestal by Hub Pages, then you are in sore need of a reality check.
So go for it Jenny. You're a great example of what to do if you want to make some money on hub Pages. In fact, I have recently created another user account where I'm doing exactly the same thing.
@uninvited writer: hubscores can take a while to kick in. And Author scores don't mean much either. Just look at the scores of some of the more obnoxious / prolific hubbers on the forums.
Cheers, Eric G.
here is the thing to keep in mind
HP has gone out of their way to help us "white hats" by limiting the "grey hats" by creating a ranking system.
this ranking system puts our original work higher up in the hubpage ranks and we ultimately should get more exposure.
now for the grey hats, well, google will hopefully do its job to keep them down in the google ranks
only time will tell
Actually, most likely the "grey hats" will absolutely slaughter the google rankings compared to us "white hats"
The terms white hat, grey hat, black hat .. really only relate to the methods one uses for optimizing search engine placement and perhaps generating traffic as a whole. If you intentionally use methods that are against the terms of service you are leaning into blackhat territory..but really does ANYBODy care about Googles or Reddits or Diggs etc. Terms of service?, well except for maybe Relache (insert link to FAQ here) They are all merely vehicles to bring traffic to our sites, rules be damned.(well until your caught, slapped, banned that is)
The "white hat" is the guy yelling "content is king" and hoping that people gift him with backlinks and references.
Traditionally, a successful white hat optimization will be slower to rank well but will achieve long term results.
the black hat optimizer will use games in the system to quickly achieve high returns but will most likely fall from sight after its methods are caught. The black hatter is responsible for the comment in your bible blog that says "wow this is so excellent, so happy to read this, thank you...check out my site (getbigpenisnow.com)
His automated program sent that comment out to 5000 blogs and hour generating massive backlinks, hitting the top of the SERP's for a high paying keyword and cashed in heavily no doubt from the short ride at the top...after that site gets banned..rinse and repeat to the next mission.
Grey hat is somewhere in the middle, and thats what you should aim to be
The hubpage ranking system does a good job stopping dumb spammers by removing teh incentive to post on this site (loss of backlink/outbound links) but thats about it...thats an internal system, by all means the steps that create a good hubscore. will also create a higher quality article in google eyes (or so I believe, it is a top secret algorithm and all) BUT, the sooner you forget about your hubscore (as long as its good) and focus on the WORLD wide web, the better for your exposure and earnings (should you care)
"HP has gone out of their way to help us "white hats" by limiting the "grey hats" by creating a ranking system."
No, they have created a good business model to encourage traffic to a site in which you crop share content to them
Well, if she succeeds more power to her. It doesn't bother me that she has posted that much. I wish I could be so prolific
As I stated before, I was surprised to see that many hubs, but really, who cares? I don't think it should offend anyone. Good business sense...and that's the name of the game for many
Also, the fact that her profile link is on this thread is going to get her a fair amount of people going to take a look.
Maybe we could send her a note, and ask her how she does it, and how many pots of coffee she drinks a day? I have to give credit to anyone who can write so many hubs.
100 hubs... damn that's a lot in just a week! Don't care if it's a moneytizer though, most of us are doing something like it anyway, maybe a bit "subtler".heheheh
This really makes me want to have a separate username to do this with. I want to write my own quality content, but SEO rich articles really can be bought on the cheap. ;( It just offends the writer in me. I am sure she will start making money quickly, though.
Does the white hat/grey hat thing even work, though? Most of my articles are on the first page of google already for basic keywords.
Do you guys think it is ETHICAL to purchase articles and post them here for profit?
Outsourced content for sure... but good for her. Ingenuity is where it's at.
You are perfectly entitled to have multiple user IDs on hubpages many of us do.
If you are buying cheap articles make sure they are unique - PLR and similar will get you nowhere fast on HP.
Of course white/grey/black hats work- that's why people do it LOL - you answered your own question if your articles are on page 1 ...
Why would I purchase articles except with the intent to profit from them LOL? If its just for fun I'd write the stuff myself!
simply put, whoever did this was a machine either, typing to the point that the keyboard was smoking, or copying and pasting previously typed articles, or paying someone possibly a team to write them so they could focus on posting and then driving traffic. they are original, and keyword rich, so i suspect this is a team effort, or they were bought and then turned to hubs for profit, wither way, it is the definition of spam, by hub pages at least. a low score, and over 100 hubs- not good!
i have 40 hubs and a score of 86 with a profit of 113.13 in 7 days
and let me tell ya, i stay up all night, research all day, and type type type, then i resource, and type more, and then pull photos, and post them, then link, then publish, my whole process takes about 1-2 hours per hub. idk how anyone could do more because my head is frying just doing 40 in a week, literally i am taking a day or 2 off so my eyes can rest,
the other posibility is alot of coffem or perhaps an illicit drug of some sort! lol seriously something isnt right with it!
thats the feed for all of my hubs! check em out and let me know how i am doing!
another thought, if your having any trouble coming up with hub ideas..take that hubbers titles and write quality rewrites.
I looked at only one. It is as good as 80% of the crap you'll find anywhere.
The one hub I looked at "We buy ugly houses"
has keywords in it that range between 10-15 dollars per click! Im sure there are many people who have been writing here for 6 months plus, with the intent of earning that have not made that much yet
we buy ugly houses 1 - 3 $9.62
we buy houses fast 1 - 3 $10.34
we buy houses cash 1 - 3 $12.24
we buy houses 1 - 3 $14.15
But before you try that particular example realize that you are up against 93,100,000 competitors...so it seems the hubber, did there keyword value research but may have disregarded there competition.
but then again, if they paid 2-3 dollars an article as I imagine..it may be a worthwhile gamble
Sunforged, careful. The publisher (i.e. us) doesn't get the entire amount quoted in the Adwords tool. The CPC quoted there is what the advertiser will pay to be displayed on the search results. If their ad is displayed on a content page like hubpages, they are likely paying less, and as a publisher you get 20-30% of what they pay. And if you send them clicks that have a low conversion into sales, Google protects the advertiser by charging them way less, and as a publisher your percentage of way less is also way less!
Price quoted to be displayed first in search results, yes you wont get 10-15 per click, but you are way more likely to receive higher returns than a term that quotes at .63 cents.
Smart pricing / CTR is true across all terms, I was stating that she will not likely receive much traffic, so I dont see her CTR being effected
I think if someone is dedicated to writing they could do this. Just find a few subjects you are interested in and then break them down into small subject area and write on each one.
I would imagine she wrote instead of watching TV, talking with friends, or any of the other excuses we have for not writing. The key is to set the goal and then follow through. We can accomplish a lot more than we think we can. But we don't accomplish much because we don't try hard enough.
Most people say "Hard work doesn't scare me, I can lay down right next to it and go to sleep." :-)
Push yourself and see what you can do.
Find out the answer here - she speaks for herself
hehee.. not possible for me atleast. I can barely write 10 articles a day. lol.
She may have had them saved to word, I visited the hubs and the appear to not be copied however they are missing some vaulable information. Good for her to do a 100 in 5 days, as you can see it took me 2 years to do a 101 well I take that back there are some that are unpublished for now and others in the works that has yet to be published so I would say appr. 130. lolololo
Oh well good for her and may she find success.
HOLY COW BATMAN ! I have not even wrote 50 hubs In a year. And trying to do good ones makes me tired !
I knew that you knew it was Sunday you even gave Batman a Holy Cow!! lolololoo
Seriously you write great hubs Tony, each and every hub is good.
I would like to know what Coffee they are drinking and get me some.
Dear, if you look at the way she has a lot of similar topics you can see it looks like typical PLR.
Now whether she is rewriting the articles, using then as is, is paying for them to be written for only her... I have no idea. As I can see a lot of people on hubpages use PLR article packs.
My articles are all mine now and on HP, but I used to be into a lot of private label right content.
You will be mad to try to compete with such a person. 1 hub per second is a record
i just wish i was her, for sure money is about to knock on her door
Maybe, but just because she has a lot of hubs doesn't mean they will do well, (though I hope they do for her)Keywords, and well written articles about topics that are being searched for are just as good if not better then a large bunch of blind articles.
Well people, here's your answer!
"Hi. I actually wrote 70% of my hubs beforehand over the course of a month -- so the content was all there -- so that doesn't count as "writing" for my part. Well I did write, but just not all that content in a few days! I do confess that I did write an additional 30 during 5 days though -- that was pretty tough and something I don't want to repeat -- not for a long while
Ok, she writes like PLR packs.
her hubber score is a 32
please keep that in mind
you can game the system but the system can game you back
keywords alone is not the way to make money
I hope she didn't pay alot for the "guru" advice she is using. these topics have a ton of competition and if you aren't on page 1 of google your articles may never see the light of day
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