There is a difference between civil discussion and discourse (which is a well-protected and prized political right), and brawling. Intelligent debate participants are always respected and disagreements should not be seen in a negative light, but as contributing to the ongoing conversation and make up of our ideas and aspirations in society as a whole.
The problem we have here on Hubpages is that many are uninformed, many are just plain mean, and many are out to do some trolling.
Well someone has to take the first step here and I would guess that should be you since you feel this way. Go ahead, say something beautiful to everyone marine, do it. I would like to see you post something really nice to everyone on hubpages. I know you have it in ya to do so. lol
Hmm ok. When all the humans woke up, they became enlightened and they all individualized. They decided to agree to disagree instead of agreeing to disagree. They understood what was truly important in life and seperated from the animal mind.
I went in there last night Eagle, trod gingerly and they all were there, all types of creeds and cults all with a single purpose, to recruit. I might go back again, I found it a little, How would I put it intriguing. earnesthub was there and he knows all the characters. I felt that they were all Usmanali.. Was waiting for ther terrifying words "Hello my name is Squidward Sponge to appear. Didn't tho so all Good. Nice day Here.
The only way I don't see peace possible is if it's viewed as impossible. I think we are already partly androids, most of us rely on others to think for ourselves. I don't think it would be boring if more of us relied on ourselves. I think it would be enlightening.
Ty Writer, Yes there are those who instigate knowing their words will draw another in to an arguement of insults. Is it ignorance to be the fuel? I think so. Great comment on expectations. A lot of us expect without giving. Doesn't work this way does it?
My son asked me something similar Marine He said Mum if we were invaded by another country, or army and given the choice to join with them or die ,which would you do?
( love kids with searching minds huh)..
My answer was ..If they valued life and treated one another with respect I would join with them ,rather than die..( think someone will tell me its called defecting) but in that scenerio I would call it survival.
So then what would I do for peace...I would choose life , but if that wasnt going to work Id choose death...
Ok thanks Lita , humor is good but I genuinely didnt know what permalink meant ,and I thought Tantrum thought I did and was being funny...nevermind was going to copy that poem ,but Ive lost interest now
Horses have hoofs to carry them over frost and snow; hair, to protect them from wind and cold. They eat grass and drink water, and fling up their heels over the prairie. Such is the real nature of horses. Palatial dwellings are of no use to them.
One day Po Lo appeared, saying: I understand the management of horses. So he branded them, and clipped them, and pared their hoofs, and put halters on them, tying them up by the head and shackling them by the feet, and putting them in stables. As a result, two or three in every ten died. Then he kept them hungry and thirsty, trotting them and galloping them, and grooming, and trimming, with the misery of the tasseled bridle before and the fear of the knotted whip behind, until more than half of them were dead.
The potter says: I can do what I will with clay. If I want it round, I use compasses; if rectangular, a square. The carpenter says: I can do what I will with wood. If I want it curved, I use an arc; if straight, a line. But on what grounds can we think that the natures of clay and wood desire this application of compasses and square, of arc and line? Nevertheless, every age extols Po Lo for his skill in managing horses, and potters and carpenters for their skill with clay and wood. Those who govern the empire make the same mistake.
Now I regard government of the empire from quite a different point of view. The people have certain natural instincts: to weave and clothe themselves, to plough and feed themselves. These are common to all humanity, and all are agreed about this. Such instincts come from nature.
And so in the days when natural instincts prevailed, men moved quietly and gazed steadily. At that time, there were no roads over mountains, nor boats, nor bridges over water. All things were produced, each for its own proper sphere. Birds and beasts multiplied; trees and shrubs grew up. The former might be led by the hand; you could climb up and peep into the raven's nest. For then man dwelt with birds and beasts, and all creation was one. There were no distinctions of good and bad men. Being all equally without knowledge, their virtue could not go astray. Being all equally without evil desires they were in a state of natural harmony, the perfection of human existence.
But when philosophers and prophets appeared, tripping up people over charity and fettering them with duty to their neighbor, doubt found its way into the world. And then, with their preoccupation with the performance of music, and their fussing over ceremony, the empire became divided against itself.
We would all probably like to see you post something like this... 'everyone on hubpages has been nice to me. They take the time to go on and on in the forums with me when I post. All the hubbers are good people. I love everyone on hubpages just as much as I love my st. bernard doggy. I love you all, you lovely, nice, peaceful people.'
This would not be reality. It might put people in good spirits, but it wouldn't be telling the truth. I tend not to sugar coat things. I do love everyone and have hope for everyone who hasn't given up on themselves or others. I think there is only loss when hope is lost. Hope still remains.
Wow, that was a nice post. Yes, you do put the truth on here. But that kind of truth I thought was supposed to be a 'thought' and not put into words. Only put nice stuff into words. Just sit home and 'think' these things. lol.
Sometimes when I am in the forums, I wish I could say things to people who are rude. I choose not to get into it and fly off the handle. I just do not understand why some just want to keep it going. Maybe bored. lol.
I have never been one of bad words. I used to have a serious temper problem. The older I get the more control I have over this. Thank goodness.
You are a good person marine. Keep up the good posts. I am not lecturing you or anything. I think you have enough sense to know that and I know that you have a good sense of humor.
Ty, have a good night. On the temper comment, I have/had a huge problem with this. I think we tend to make an irrational decision when our emotions are involved. I think when we step back and re-evaluate, we make more rational decisions.
I agree, however some of us must see things different. If we locked ourself in a room with no windows or doors, this would be control. When you say "No one makes our reality", this is 1/2 true. To others of us, "society makes our reality". It's our option whether or not we choose to view all of it or only the good parts.
Hubpages cannot bring peace to hubbers, hubbers must BRING peace to hubpages. Sadly some come in here with intentions of disrupting the peace we bring. Some lead off with disturbing titles to their thread. We need to just bypass them.
☮ I try to be peaceful but that obviously isn't the case for everyone here. I've been called lots of things. Only to try not to take it personally, and hope that one day the person will find peace within themselves. A lot of times people make assumptions rather than ask questions. I find that to be quite frustrating at times. I agree with Neil that people must find peace for themselves first. ☮
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