I feel dirty...

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   Davinagirl3posted 14 years ago

   I allowed myself to become enrapt in some forum threads this morning, and I think I may have become a darker, meaner version of myself.  My inner demon came out.  I was called names as soon as I voiced my OPINION.  I sank to a level that was unbecoming to myself, and I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this revelation.  My resolution is to stay away from the political forums.  If I go back it will be like an alcoholic having a drink.  I am not used to being attacked for voicing my opinion.  I figure, people have different viewpoints, right? Well, I will keep my opinions to myself from now on.  It is too risky.

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      tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sounds like taking the easy way out.

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      Jewelimperfectionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      That Really Sucks. You Should Not Have Been Attacked Like That. But Its Happened to Me Too.lol.
      Don't Give Into The Urge, Be Higher Than That.

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If you have this (or any other) "inner demon" in yourself, the only way to really get rid of it is to let it out in more or less controlled manner. If you try to suppress it, it will get you eventually in a nasty way. Yes, I am talking from personal experience.

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      fierycjposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Oh dont let it bother ya, Boo. Its gotta happen to everyone in here at least once. At least.

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   Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

   Oh chica I'm sorry that you had to go through name calling just for stating your own opinion.  But yes you mustn't sink to their level but you do have to stand up for yourself. Sorry again.  Maybe they need a Preschool teacher to teach them manners? I can help there

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      manlypoetrymanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah...Put 'em all in time out!
      
      

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         Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         LMAO Oh that picture is too sad. But yea so true they need time outs haha

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            manlypoetrymanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Actually...that back of the blonde square head looks alot like I did...back in the day...and there's something familiar about that wall color...Ma' have you been scanning all our baby photos to the inter-net again...Dang Blast it, Ma! Next year...I'm getting you a new skillet for Christmas...for crying out loud!

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   manlypoetrymanposted 14 years ago

   Davina...that is real good resolution...one I've tried to do myself. I can't believe people can't figure out that their's is an OPINION...like everyone else's.  Sounds like you came up with a better solution to the problem...then they ever will.
   Just say "No" to __________. (Fill in the blank with whatever you want-just make sure it has a plural ending!) Yeah...next time you feel the need to get in on the "ramblings"...just drop back and punt!

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      Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I love reading your comments poetryman. You have some great ones!

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   Been there, done that. Not here, but I really know how you feel. And yes you do feel dirty.
   
   That's one of the reasons why I just try to stick to business at Hubpages. I participate in the Hubbers Hangout, Knowledge Exchange and Need Help.
   
   Very occasionally I venture into a controversial area, but feel miserable afterwards. I'm considering not participating in the forums at all because of this. But there are lots of great people here and I don't want to lose that experience completely.
   
   But these days I don't even look at the forum summary. Many of the titles upset me greatly. I just come to these 3 forums.
   
   I try to have a positive and supportive attitude and not get caught up in the drama here.

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   jiberishposted 14 years ago

   I admit I enjoy following the drama, occassionally I'll post a short comment, but it does get brutal.

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      tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have yet to see anything approaching "brutal" here at all.

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   kmackey32posted 14 years ago

   I would just stay away. There are just some people who like to get a rise out of others.

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   And some who want to sort the fact from fiction!
   I get called all sorts of things on some forums. Doesn't worry me much I still get to exchange info sometimes, and expect no more. Those who continue with abuse get banned sooner or later, and I let hubpages staff judge when. I reckon they do a great job of it.

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   Davinagirl3posted 14 years ago

   I think I need the time out.  I am going to take my angst out on my credit cards.  I am definately going to get out of my house and away from the computer this weekend, and maybe get a spa treatment.  Then I will feel clean again.  Voila'... Problem solved.

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      Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      *HUGS* Don't stress too much about it. Remember they are the stupid ones who want to start fights or force you to think their way.

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   girly_girl09posted 14 years ago

   Political discussion is a much more productive experience when things do not get personal and points are made with solid facts.
   
   Unfortunately, personal attacks are what it has resorted to (anywhere, not just on HubPages). It's hard for many to evoke political discussion without using personal attacks and trying to degrade someone's opinion. I'm sorry that happened to you. Many people feel that if they try hard enough to discredit a person, that their own talking points are somehow more valid than another person that they can easily label in a derogatory way. For me, that negates anyone's argument. It shouldn't be personal. If posters truly have something productive to say, they won't make it personal; it'll be a factual statement.
   
   I enjoy the occasional political thread on here, but I ignore the posters who are offensive and aren't contributing to a productive conversation. I like talking with hubbers who challenge my facts and help me hone my debate skills; that, for me, is stimulating. I find the political forums useful for that purpose and that purpose only!
   
   At the end of the day, political debate isn't terribly productive; it is highly unlikely to change someone's opinion through an internet forum. As you said, people have different viewpoints. If it's not fun anymore, I don't blame you for not wanting to participate. Your time here should be FUN!

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    blue dogposted 14 years ago

    golly, stay away for a few hours and i miss the drama.  serioulsy, davina, i wouldn't get too upset about those clowns over in the politics slums.  it's the same ones over and over,  trying to do the baiting trick, the tool of choice being hypocrisy.  just reading their posts, the same old line over and over and over, could almost be a cheap form of entertainment.  if only they weren't so pathetic. 
    
    that's my take on them, and it allows me to sleep well at nite.  remember, davina, the pen is mightier than the sword.  keep your pen sharp, their dull swords are no match.  reconsider your comment about keeping your opinion to yourself.  creative types should be allowed to express themselves, even in the presence of nitwits.

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       Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Well said blue dog well said!

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       Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       If only corporations felt the same way, bluedog, .
       
       The forums were once more fun, and at the same time a little more serious.  There are hubbers who have voluntarily decided, similar to Davina, to quit the forums because of the excessive trolling activity which has occurred in the last 3 months or so at hubpages, I'd estimate.

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          earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          it is around three months isn't it? I still persevere though, and sometimes it;s fun still, especially when experienced hubbers join in.

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       tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Isn't that an example of the sort of nasty name-calling everyone was deploring?

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          blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          i guess in some circles the word "clowns" could be considered nasty name-calling.  it is what it is.

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             tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             What about "pathetic"? If "it is what it is" I assume you really have no problem with name-calling and such then?

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                blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                actually, you might consider re-reading my posts before you start assuming.   again, in some circles the word "pathetic" could be considered nasty name-calling.  if you'll go look up it's definintion, you'll see that it applies to most of what's going on in religion and politics and anyone who's posted almost 3,000 comments in four months time. 
                
                it's not so much the name calling that people seem to be concerned about - that will be corrected in due time - as it is the fact that there are those who desire to participate in and maintain an intellectual discussion.  it is unfortunate that  people who've yet to advance beyond the level of middle school debate continue to hog the discussion boards.

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                   tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   There you go, keep providing that example!

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Davina don't let them get to ya. It is quite frustrating I know. But you're way better than those who result to name-calling, last time I checked we weren't in the 2nd grade.
    
    Definitely get out of the house and go do something for yourself, you deserve it!

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    AsherKadeposted 14 years ago

    why do yo think I don't publish here anymore? The forums are okay, but the crap isn't. Somehow I have been blame for all the crap, and I hardly am here anymore....don't take it persoal Davina, you are too aweosme of a person!!!!!

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       manlypoetrymanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Asher...you are missed on this Hub thing...but glad you popped back in for a visit...I tried to help vindicate some of the hateful E-Mails that were sent your way...which I find hard to believe people can be that ignorant...by the way...in the forum topic today: Don't Snub in a Hub!
       
       Later

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    LOL poertyman. Your comments are too funny

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       manlypoetrymanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Gracias Crazdwriter...All in fun though Writing Hubs and the Forum Section...helps keep me out'ta trouble on Political and Religious Forums across the rest of the internet... Sounds like you're fitting in well here for a Hubber of 3 weeks...

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          Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks poetryman I am doing my best and trying to join in more. And trying to get more fun hubs up though it's hard sometimes when I don't get inspired.
          
          and stay out of trouble? aaaaaa...but but...that's no fun lol

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    blue dogposted 14 years ago

    as i posted elsewhere last evening, if hp wants to sit on their laurels, polishing their fingernails while they look in the mirror saying how great they are, fine.  but if they're not aware of the desire of others to drag a good thing down, then maybe they should stick their heads in the politics and religious doors a bit more often.
    
    expect changes with the hp format, if they want to continue being successful.  hubscores, author scores, so on and so forth.  perhaps there's an incentive for producing quality hubs, unbeknownst to some.   if so, it needs to be made clear to the freaks and zealots over in politics and religion.

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    Oh and Davina I am wondering which forum were they calling your names. I want to see exaclty what they called you and everything.

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    Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

    
    
    
    You know....Your thread titles are misleading.  I thought this was going to be much more interesting.

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    Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

    

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    HubChiefposted 14 years ago

    look at trees and flowery plants,
    Plants always urive storms
    tress get blown away
    
    you have recgnized your inside and it is a big one.. You woudl overcome this soon. May you feel better

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    Dame Scribeposted 14 years ago

    I do the same as Nellie I avoid the drama zones. Feels better offering advice, support and encouragement

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    badcompany99posted 14 years ago

    Just forget about it Davina, like why even worry about it. I used to until I realised the people involved aren't worth even thinking about !

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       kmackey32posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       yes exactly what he said.

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          badcompany99posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I only read this damn thread cause she said she felt Dirty, what a let down

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             kmackey32posted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Me too. AH ha

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    badcompany99posted 14 years ago

    Btw you I am liking yer new hubs, you deff have got the knack Mac lol, jeeeez I knew I was a Poet

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       kmackey32posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Oh yea. Does that mean I am learning?

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