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HubPages Earnings Averages - Is the $10.00 Per Hub Per Year Rule True?

  1. Jason Seale profile image81
    Jason Sealeposted 7 years ago

    Hi Fellow Hubbers!

    I have done a bit of (unscientific) averaging of AdSense income on HubPages.com, and calculated an earnings rule for Hubs:

    On average, any given hub will earn about $10.00 per year.

    My page showing my sources is: http://hubpages.com/hub/Hubbers-Reveal- … s-Earnings

    Does this rule apply to you?

    Here is how to do the math:

    Take the HubPages AdSense earnings (in dollars) for a particular number of days, and divide by the current number of hubs you have written.

    Take the result, and divide by the particular number of days used above.

    Multiply the new result by 365. This is your average earnings, in dollars, per hub, per year.

    For example, if you have 40 hubs, and you made $55.50 over the last 30 days, you start by dividing 55.50 dollars by 40 hubs to get a result of 1.3875.

    Now, take the result of 1.3875 and divide by 30 days to get 0.0463.

    Finally, take the new result of 0.0463 and multiply by 365, for a final result of 16.8813.

    In the above case, you would be averaging $16.88 per hub per year!

    Please let us know how you are doing!

    Myself ... as a rank beginner, I have no earning to report yet.

    1. viryabo profile image86
      viryaboposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Now im lost!
      Any mathematician in the house? big_smile

    2. robhampton profile image88
      robhamptonposted 13 months ago in reply to this

      I'm doing around 3500-4500 views/day right now with under 30 hubs. Here's an analytics screenshot from earlier today
      http://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13037302.png

    3. robhampton profile image88
      robhamptonposted 13 months ago in reply to this

      Here's a better image of the daily traffic I'm getting right now
      http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13037311.png

      1. Kent Merritt profile image79
        Kent Merrittposted 13 months ago in reply to this

        It looks like you're getting a nice amount of page views every day. Do you mind sharing info on where you're advertising your hubs to get this kind of traffic?

        1. robhampton profile image88
          robhamptonposted 13 months ago in reply to this

          I'm not promoting on any way shape or form. My hubs are about swimming pool repair, maintenance, etc... Very seasonal but Google searches put me on first page, sometimes first slot. I guess my articles are hot, according to Google. I just searched for "green pool" yesterday knowing there are Thousands, of not millions of articles about green pools. Surprise!! First page google here. When hubpages switched to the niche site thing, my traffic exploded! I've done well in the past, but this year am banging out over 5000/views day! I know, insane for less than 30 hubs!

          1. Kent Merritt profile image79
            Kent Merrittposted 13 months ago in reply to this

            Very nice! Thanks for the reply!

          2. Anita Hasch profile image84
            Anita Haschposted 13 months ago in reply to this

            I would love to know how to increase my hub views.

  2. JohnnyComeLately profile image82
    JohnnyComeLatelyposted 7 years ago

    That seems rather high.  I think the average hub gets maybe 3 views/day at most - that's 1100/year.  Since you get 60% of the adsense on Hub Pages, $10/year per hub implies about a $15 cpm.  Possible for targeted traffic, but unlikely for many of the general articles you find on Hub Pages.  For most $1-3 cpm will be more typical.

  3. relache profile image86
    relacheposted 7 years ago

    I've got an earnings poll up on my hub about Improving Your HubPages Earnings.  The original poll which ran through 2008 and into August of this year showed that about 63% of Hub authors reported they were making $10 or less per month.  The new poll has only been running for a little over a week and already 38% of respondents say they are still earning at that level.  BTW, my average monthly earnings from 2007 through now are disclosed on that Hub.

    The only part of your calculations that I can agree with is that they are unscientific.  The biggest mistake your formula makes is presuming that earnings are steady throughout the year.  They are anything but that.

    And JohnnyComeLately, you DON'T get 60% of the AdSense earned by your Hubs, your ad code runs on your pages 60% of the time and you get 100% of whatever clicks come in during those times.  There's a real difference in those two scenarios.

    1. Jason Seale profile image81
      Jason Sealeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Relache:

      When I apply my formula to your disclosed hub earnings, I get the following results:

      For 2007, you averaged $13.95 per year per hub.
      For 2008, you averaged $20.82 per year per hub.
      For 2009, you have so far averaged $27.23 per year per hub.

      I realize that this is not "AdSense Only" earnings, but includes Amazon, eBay, etc.; Bravo! however, on your nice, increasing earning per hub per year average.

      Thanks for contributing to this discussion!

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        But they are just her adsense earnings, thats what it states on the hub. I think I am correct in saying that Relache also does pretty damn well in one of either Amazon or Ebay too.

        Its great to try and learn from these people, I am getting there.... slow but sure.

        1. Jason Seale profile image81
          Jason Sealeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks for pointing that out RyanKett ... I freely admit that I only had time to skim through the page, and made that assumption. Double Bravo! for her for that being only her AdSense earnings.

    2. MistHaven profile image81
      MistHavenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh wow, I didn't know this. You're right, that IS a lot different from getting 60% of everything. I could have sworn it said we get 60% of everything in the FAQ.

  4. Marisa Wright profile image93
    Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago

    My best Hub has earned $60 since it was written - my worst Hub has earned about 2 bucks.  On average, however, your figures are about right for me.  I don't do a lot of promotion and I write about subjects I like, rather than looking for hot keywords.  So I'm sure there are a lot of people who make much more than me!

    1. Marisa Wright profile image93
      Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I should add, that doesn't include eBay and Amazon.  It's also a bit misleading because I earned almost nothing in my first few months at HubPages.  Earnings tend to snowball once you get started.  So it took me about 10 months to earn the first $100, but I've had several payouts since them.  So the average of $10 per article may be roughly correct for my first two years, but it will be significanctly under for future earnings.

  5. SEO Expert Kerala profile image60
    SEO Expert Keralaposted 7 years ago

    at last some math lovers in Hubpages....

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      Ghost32posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      (Sigh) The math is giving me a headache...but my AdSense earnings won't pay for the aspirin.

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        Louidam1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        LOL  I'm no math lover either.  All I see is a bunch of numbers.

      2. SuperCC profile image59
        SuperCCposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        haha

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    564626posted 7 years ago

    I think, These earnings are very much true for normal peoples. Yes, i voted for less then $10 per month. But my earnings going to increase next month more then $10.

    These avg. is not true. Because most hubs you write don't do well. Few hubs give regular earnings, few gets lots of visitors but no similar ads and no clicks. and few will not get visitors at all.

  7. sunstreeks profile image83
    sunstreeksposted 7 years ago

    I used your formula using what adsense says for the last 7 days.  Mine works out to $16.17 per hub per year.

    Granted, it took me just over a year to figure out how to write hubs that earn. Prior to that it was wide spread hit or miss. Now, my aim is somewhat better smile

    I think $16+ per hub per year should be easily achievable for anyone that sticks with it, does even the most basic keyword research, and writes hubs that are product or service related (promotes buying decisions).

    1. Jason Seale profile image81
      Jason Sealeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hey Sunstreaks, that works out to $4,268 per year for you! That is a seriously nice amount of money. Enough to pay a significant bill or two off each month.

      Thanks for sharing!

      1. sunstreeks profile image83
        sunstreeksposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks. This does not count amazon or ebay. But, it has only the past months following the May hub challenge when I started earning this amount consistently. The difference from the past is that I focused my hubs on products and services as apposed to just random topics.

        My point is, for new hubbers focus on products and services. If I had known to start out with hubs about products I would be making more on average per hub. Out of my first 120 or so hubs, only a handful are earners. The last 140 or so have been more focused and a better percentage are regular earners for the 3 affiliates.

  8. Cls1321 profile image60
    Cls1321posted 7 years ago

    It all depends on how high paying the keywords and niche you write about are, how long your hubs are, and how interesting they are.

    A lot of my hubs earn me around $.20 to $1 a month, but I have two hubs that are earning me $4-5 a day for the past week.

    I wouldn't say there is any real way to predict how much you are going to earn because it is all probability and there are so many variables.

    1. Jason Seale profile image81
      Jason Sealeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Cls1321, I totally agree and understand that given 100 hubs, a number of them will likely be "stinkers" and others will come out "smelling like a rose". I would want to emphasise the word "average" as it applies to these calculations. Individual results, for people and for hubs, will certainly vary.

      Exceptions to the $10.00 per year per hub rule will certainly be the true rule!

      Thanks for pointing out the disparity between hubs.

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 7 years ago

    No I completely disagree with you. And there is no way to create a predictive model to do this. And your analysis doesn't give you any useful info, except the quotes for another hub.

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      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol, say it how it is Nelle wink

      And I have to agree with you too, my last 15 hubs (excluding the 3 I have published today and are not yet indexed) have earnt more than the other 45+ in the last week or so....... because I am getting better at SEO and Keywords Analysis and Selection.... the key to earning money on hubpages is self-education and reading regularly.... not writing as many hubs as possible....

      1. Jason Seale profile image81
        Jason Sealeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi Ryankett, you are making an important point that I would like to emphasise ... when I propose a rule of $10.00 pey year per hub, the rule applies, to be sure, to hubs of average quality! Not the worst of them, which will earn nothing at all, and certainly not the best of them, which may be earning more than $10.00 a day!

        By all means, all of us should be educating ourselves, and reading regularly, AND, I suggest, writing as many QUALITY hubs as possible as well. That may mean only a hub a day, to keep the quality up, depending on the topic and the individual doing the writing.

        In no way am I trying to suggest spamming HubPages with junky hubs with the idea that each one would earn you an easy $10.00 per year. Doing that would simply get you banned.

        1. soni2006 profile image49
          soni2006posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Even if it will not ban, a person writing a lot of hubs will not be able to give good quality and will not be doing justice with his/her hubs which will lead to hub score penalty and less views and visitors to his/her hub and at the end less money that he/she had expected of.

    2. Jason Seale profile image81
      Jason Sealeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Nelle Hoxie:

      I certainly don't intent the math to be "predictive". There are simply too many variables involved for it to predict what any given individual can expect to earn.

      Even the best and worst earners in the sources I used for my initial calculations seemed to vary in their earning by at least an order of magnitude (that is 10 times more or less for those of you unfamiliar with the term "order of magnitude").

      I don't agree however that my analysis "doesn't give you any useful info" ... averages are an important factor in helping to determine what kind of results you may expect to achieve in an endeavor like earning money on HubPages. An average value is not a "doom and gloom" pessimistic "this is as little as the worst of us makes" turn off, and it is not a "shine and glitter" over-optimistic "get rich quick" turn on. An average value is, by definition, the reasonable middle ground. An average tells you that, with a little luck, and about as much effort and skill as most normal people can bring to bear, you can expect to earn, give or take some, so much money doing this.

      By the way, here is another average I have calculated, based on earning reported from YouTube partners:

      ON AVERAGE, THE EARNINGS REPORTED BY YOUTUBE PARTNERS WORKS OUT TO $45.00 PER VIDEO PER YEAR

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        With regards to the YouTube calculation, this is significantly distorted by the disparities of the number of views that some get. Many music videos get tens of millions of views each per year, Universal Music are the largest earning affiliate.... they are also the largest music company in the world I believe. For you or me...... well, we would have to get incredibly lucky (and extremely talented) to get the next big viral video.

        1. Jason Seale profile image81
          Jason Sealeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hi Ryankett:

          For sure, a HUGE disparity in earnings is going to be present on YouTube or any other system (like HubPages). Most of us would like to go viral, but as you say that takes incredible luck and, often enough, extreme talent.

          To clarify, here is how I calculated the YouTube average:

          Many people are claiming that you can expect to earn $2.50 per 1000 views on YouTube if you are a YouTube partner. That works out to $0.0025 per view.

          My own videos, which have certainly not gone viral, currently average about 50 views per day, and have been up for about a year. I assume they are relatively "average" for the purposes of this calculation. My YouTube member name is FreePhotosAndArt if you want to check them out.

          $0.0025 X 50 Views a Day X 365 Days a Year = $45.63

          If a viral video gets 1,000,000 (a million) views ... according to the $2.50 rule, that viral video will earn you about $2,500. That does not include any kind of product(s) or service(s) the video may be pushing.

          1. profile image0
            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Sounds good, any tips on how to get approved for their partnership scheme Jason?

          2. Rosefall profile image79
            Rosefallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I didn't know you can make money posting a video on YouTube...hmmmm.. The possibilities are endless! I am liking this Internet thing. LOL

  10. LVM profile image55
    LVMposted 7 years ago

    I used to be getting one or two dollars a day for a single hub for a week.  Then its gone for almost three weeks now.

  11. relache profile image86
    relacheposted 7 years ago

    I would just like to say that Jason's math does not accurately reflect what I'm earning this year as he's working with a truncated data set.  (only through June)

    1. Jason Seale profile image81
      Jason Sealeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Relache:

      I am not sure how accurate my formula is, even with "all the data". It certainly does not elegantly take into account recent hubs that have not been indexed, or the fact that earlier hubs may not perform as well (as a few hubbers have mentioned learning to focus on products and services as time goes on). I just hope that it give enough of a general idea to inspire and inform those of us in need of inspiration and information.

      I am amazed that you have 1682 posts! That's about 1.5 posts a day over three years ... and you seem to be getting an average of about a fan a day during the same period ... OK, OK, I'll ease off on the math now ...

      1. relache profile image86
        relacheposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Neither fan clubs nor the forums existed when HubPages was first created, so again that shows how data can be deceiving.  I made all those posts and got all those fans in about two years.

  12. kephrira profile image61
    kephriraposted 7 years ago

    Just on adsense my hubs will probably average about 50 cents each this month, which makes $6 per hub per year, but I reckon I will be able to build it up to at least the $10 you said before too long, so I would say it seems about right to me.

    1. kephrira profile image61
      kephriraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I got it wrong!
      I just remembered that after nearly 3 years of having my adsense balance displayed in $ about a month or so ago it was switched to £, so it actually works out at £6 not $6, which is about $9.50!

  13. SuperCC profile image59
    SuperCCposted 6 years ago

    This is great, but I think most of the hubbers on here are right brained wrtiters as well as readers (laugh) I dont know about you but I very much dislike math. good work though big_smile

  14. thisisoli profile image58
    thisisoliposted 6 years ago

    I earn a hell of a lot more than $10 per hub per year, probably wouldn't still be in the game if that was my average!

  15. Greek One profile image80
    Greek Oneposted 6 years ago

    I'm averaging 3 cents a hub, but I've only been here a year or so, so I've still got some to learn

  16. Lisa HW profile image85
    Lisa HWposted 6 years ago

    There's no "any given Hub" for me.  Mine range from one extreme to the other in what they earn.  Some of the different types of Hubs (for anyone) are so different, it's like comparing apples and oranges.  I'm wondering if your calculation is based on only Hubbers who are willing to say their earnings; and being "business-only-focused" may write only Hubs with a high likelihood of earning (which would make averaging for that particular "variety" of Hubber somewhat possible) (as opposed to Hubbers who write a mix of big earners, average earners, low earners, and no-earnings-to-speak-of Hubs).

    It's the "average for any given Hub" wording that I particularly see as an "issue".

  17. alphagirl profile image78
    alphagirlposted 5 years ago

    Uh too much math! I have been here 4 months and averaged out at .02 cents per day if I divide my earnings! Not even enough
    To be paid ! It will take me awhile to get paid at this rate! So for me I have nade on average 1.14 per month! Paltry!

    1. helpavisitor profile image60
      helpavisitorposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I am yet to make my first cent. I need to do something about it. I need to earn money now.

  18. ChristinS profile image94
    ChristinSposted 13 months ago

    Why are we dredging up posts that are 6 years old? So annoying. Start new threads relative to today - this is NOT the same place it was 6, 4 or even 2 years ago.  yikes.

    1. robhampton profile image88
      robhamptonposted 13 months ago in reply to this

      So we can annoy people like you!

    2. robhampton profile image88
      robhamptonposted 13 months ago in reply to this

      Just thought I'd try "annoying" you again. When you can can post this kind of traffic, than get back with me. lol. And by the way, this screenshot is recent, not 6 years ago


      http://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13040640.png

    3. robhampton profile image88
      robhamptonposted 13 months ago in reply to this

      You don't HAVE to read the posts if you don't want to. Seems to me that you chose to open the thread and post how "annoyed" you are. Just wanted to let you know that on HubPages, you are not automatically required to post replies in forums that you find unappealing. So hows your traffic doing? or should I say "yikes" lol

 
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