Darkside , i asked everyones opinion. That is all. Many contests are being announced in this site. Some offers like this could work out more than any hub challenge. Especially attracting good writers who go to sites which give more sharing ratios than hubpages.
Considering they handle the hosting, CMS, SEO and give loadsof help................NOPE. We are the ones benefitting in the long term, not Hubpages. We get 60%, we benefit more in the long term than Hubpages!
A companies adsense account is more stable than individual accounts and it can benefit for hundreds of years, while individual adsense accounts are not allowed to continue after it makes a particular amount. So for individual account owners , it is better to make as much as money they want today, rather than waiting or depending on it for years to come.
Adsense has a threashold like for example , if a person earns more than .............. dollars in a year, that account will be checked and most times , a simple reason will be found out and the account will be disabled. This happened to a lot of people. Try searching in google itself to see such experiences.
It is so to avoid huge amount of money flowing to unknown individuals , rather than to registered companies.
How can you say that a company's AdSense account will be beneficial for hundreds of years when the underlying programming and technology (originally a company called Oingo Inc) was only first founded in 1998?
That is one of the worst qualifying statements I've ever heard put forth in a discussion.
But I just read it on the Internets so it must be true!
Things change. If Adsense is around 10 years from now, they'll be doing well. If Google isn't the number 1 search engine 10 years from now, I won't be surprised.
A couple of thousand 'sexy' (and I use that term loosely) photo galleries, a 90% rev share publishing site with MORE traffic than HubPages, peoples accounts getting closed when they earn over a certain amount (because Google themselves get sick of earning the same if not more than the account holder) and companies benefiting from Adsense for hundreds of years has made this thread very entertaining. Maybe it should be moved to the Creative Writing > Fiction sub-forum.
I think my 40% contribution to hubpages is currently worth every cent. As long as google continues to show hubpages the love, we should happily contribute. 40% is better than a lot of other sites and you will struggle to find a site that gets your content featured as quickly and highly on google.
A Hike in Profit ratio will definitely attract more new writers (New writers should get a high revenue share only when their score reaches above a particular position) This can get hubpages to new Heights and Huge Traffic. That is my point. But, i guess most of you don't have the energy to compete with good writers, who may come to this site on an increase in shares.
There are handful of sites giving 90% adsense revenue share and buying christmas boxes too. They get more traffic also , because they attract brilliant writers.
If you had taken a look at all the revenue sharing sites you would not have said like that. There are many others that give more shares and get indexed faster.
Employers never give Hikes , unless requested by Employees.
Waynet , i did not even compare photo galleries and articles. I posted this thread from this profile does not mean , i am comparing photos and articles. I just compared you fellows and the writers in your article categories.
shinujohn, I notice your hubs are 2 to 6 of 6 "Related Hubs" on each week's HubNuggets hub. I was really curious what keywords or other tricks you are using to do this since these hubs have no relation to HubNuggets that I could tell.
I can think of a whole lotta sites that give you 100% adsense revenue, you know why? They hardly get any traffic and there are other ads that you get no revenue from. These sites use you to bring them traffic and give them backlinks. Hubpages is the best out there with the best revenue share too!
Great excuse, Wayne - your secret fetish is finally revealed. I always wondered about you lot from the dark, uncivilised side of the Pennines
Back on topic - I am happy with the split. Most other sites I researched are 50:50, and don't have the potential audience of HP. Plus, I gain clients through HP, so I receive plenty of value for the dollar
At that time too everyone protested and atlast hubpages removed colour ads and now shows the type of ads i requested at that time. Now everyone will be experiencing better revenue than at that time. But, no one will admit it.
I am slightly confused by all this, hubpages is not about compeating with other writers it is about supporting other writers. People on here already get good money, whats the problem? Is hubpages about writing or pictures? What colour ads?
I think Hubpages is worth the 40% it earns from our writing. It has a fantastic reputation, and helps are hubs reach heights we may not see elsewhere. They have to keep some of the revenue, else what would be the point them running this site. I am more than happy with my 60%. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was within my business, I would want more than 40%.
I would would give hubpages 45% if they deleted every picture of fat old indian ladies! I wouldn't really, but I would say this...... you accepted the terms when you published nearly 4000 hubs, so accept them now.
I am happy with giving them 40%, I will delete my hubs when they ask for more. If we dont ask for more, and they dont ask for more, then everybody is happy..... no news is good news. That is my opinion.
I am a long long way from making a fortune here on hubpages, but I love it here. One thing that does now nudge at my curiosity, is the information about Adsense accounts that claims if you earn over a certain amount they will shut down your adsense account!!! Is this true, as it seems a bit rough on someone who writes really hard for a number of years, becomes successful and earning a decent income from Adsense, only to have it stopped because of their success? (plus isn't it in Adsnese's interests to have successful writers as they make more money that way too?)
I think the case here isn't that Adsense will close down after a person passes an arbitrary threshold but that lots of people she knew earned lots of adsense money through shady business practices and got shut down when they were caught.
If that's the case, yeah, definitely earn as much as you can and get out.
Perhaps Uzdawi means the amount of commission ebay pay is too low. If so I would have to agree, as after 2 years here I have only earned £2.56 from them, so I stopped including them in my hubs a few months ago, it was only detracting from my Adsense Ads that would pay out more.
Unfortunately not much can be done about ebay commissions. And ebay have changed things around. Though the change (which has had negative effects on the big earners) is actually working for me. I had sold nothing, not that I remember, but this new pay model is earning me revenue.
I think the ratio is fine, but I don't really think it is healthy to think of Hubpages as an employee/employer relationship. Hubpages is providing us a service, and a very good one. We pay for that service by providing them clicks.
Don't worry i will not place any referral links in it. Darkside i will inform you when i publish the hub.
And i dont place ads on sweaty armpit hubs, usually i publish hubs like that every week 2 or 3 and make it non commercial with adsense ads as NONE. So i dont use adsense for sweating. I have to make such hubs as there are lot of hand bra hubs in this site that are worser than anything else.
I hate them , so to keep up with competition i will have to show atleast a handful of armpits when there are people who have hubs on such over exposures than i could even think. Hope you understand.
Sorry , this post is not related to this Thread.
But, do anyone know about a site called Pixazza. Have anyone used it and do you think Google will take over it.
Seriously, you write your own paycheck on hubpages, regardless of how much they take as revenue for themselves.
Fact is, I know a place where a writer can get 100% revenue day in and day out ... on their own site. Problem is ... not many of us own a PR6 site that is in the top 100 and well respected by Google. As such, 40% revenue is the price to pay for beachfront property, and we're all fortunate they don't charge 60% - it's worth it.
So, while authors might go elsewhere for more dough, I like the oceanfront property, and here I am to say ... until the sand lobsters kick me out.
You have to find out it , yourself. I will not help.
But, realise there are many things in web , which are more better, even if they do not have the looks.
For example as an experiment i tried out the Controversial site "Docstoc" that you all know and i shared a few pubic documents from govt education sites and financial reports , and suprisingly it was a successful experiment.
That is all i can say. Frankly I have never seen such high paying clicks ever in my life. Sorry i cannot disclose the CTR i got but, i got more than 10 dollars within 2 days of submitting very few content.
I was a person who criticised that site very hardly. After the experiment i realised that everything has good and bad and it is a good site as far as no copied content is added.
I just wanted to say , experiments sometimes do reap profits that we think will never happen.
In relation to the other site, the one with 90% Adsense revenue share. I find this policy to be a deal breaker:
"By participating in our revenue sharing program, you will receive 90% of the Google AdSense revenue generated through the content pages you contributed, for a period of 1 year from the date you posted the specific content."
There are plenty of sites out there that are similar, and give greater revenue sharing. In theory Hubpages is well placed to offer a greater percentage to it's writers now it has launched successfully, however they have no incentive to do so.
I have used other revenue sharing sites, and have found many of them providing greater traffic than Hubpages. However, I do like the layout and ease of use that Hubpages offers, while maintaining quality content.
Personally I think Hubpages has every right to give the percentage of profit that it deems suitable, after all, it is us as authors who have the choice as to which service we use. I could have used another service to build my articles, however I have plenty of backlinks, daily profit and around 100 visitors a day flowing to my own websites (increasing daily), while still earning myself and hubpages a healthy profit.
Writing on Hubpages is a win-win situation for me, they do take a chunk of the earnings, but I do gain a lot of benefits. There is nothing stopping me from using other websites as well as hubpages to build a profitable network, and there is definitely no downside in my doing so.
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