I am curious how other hubers deal with comments made by others on their hubs. I don't want to censor people or delete comments I disagree with, but at the same time I'd like to promote healthy discussion on my guides and not spread poor information around.
I wrote a guide on how to set up IRC chat because I thought it wasn't widely used or known about. The single comment I got to the thread is not really off topic (the poster gives thoughts on IRC) but it seems to be a bit self promotional and doesn't focus on IRC entirely. The commenter also left a link to some site of his, and I am unsure how to proceed.
<snipped - you might want to avoid self-promotion yourself>
Can anyone share comments they have seen on their hubs, that were odd or completely off topic? Do you generally think it is better to completely remove the comment, or just reply and let the reader decide?
i don't feel obligated to approve every comment on my hubs, especially ones contaning abusive language or spam, or links to other hubbers' hubs or websites. there's not really any way to block such comments before the fact, so as a hub author i have the right to deny anything i feel is negative on my hubs. i always try to be respectful and nice to people but at the same time i won't let crap be attached to my hubs by way of other hubbers' comments.
i don't respond to abusive comments. i do try to respond to everyone who leaves a comment on my hub as i feel that is the polite and courteous thing to do.
I checked out the link and it is not working, but the comment looks good to me. You need to decide if it is helping your hub, and if it is then I would keep it as it's doing no harm. I have trouble deciding on keeping comments and have only denied a few spammy ones.
I think things are not working properly because there are so many jerks in the forums right now and the people who run hub pages have to spend their time dealing with the idiots. Soon as they weed em out things will get back to normal , poor guys I sure would hate to have their job
That is up to you to whether you want to keep that comment or deny it.
Thanks for the input. I have only deleted one comment so far, and also prefer to just respond even if the comment disagrees with me.
I was mostly worried the site of his might be harmful or unrelated (you are braver than I for clicking that =p). He also only mentioned IRC in the first sentence or two, then went on to give thoughts on privacy and tracking of cell phones and IP address. I appreciate any different point of view, just not sure how much off topic to tolerate if only a portion of the comment is related to the hub.
You might want to look into how Google feels about Adsense ads being on webpages that promote Torrent Sites.
Darkside you are full of so much useful info. Please explain Torrent sites as I am sure most of us have no clue.
Torrent sites have links for downloads, typically pirated movies.
Thanks Darkside, and yes I can see now what you mean about this being bad for AdSense.
Most people associate torrents with the negative piracy aspect. This could turn into an entire new topic if I went into that though. My guides give no information on how to steal media. They simply explain how torrents transfer information, and how to set them up.
Two people can share any file over a torrent client. Torrents can be the only way for most people to find random foreign TV series (decades old) which are not even available to buy anywhere. They can (and are) used for countless reasons other than the over-publicized piracy cases.
But like I said, if there is some rule or official google comment related to torrents, I would love to read the exact wording of it. This is not something I was aware of, so any information would be appreciated.
I wouldn't mind some elaboration on that also. About half of my hubs on hubpages are guides related to torrents. In none of my guides do I promote piracy or anything illegal. Are you making a very general comment on torrents in general or is there a specific point in any of my guides that you think is unethical?
I think torrents in general get a very bad reputation, and many people actually think they are illegal. A couple of my guides focus on this specific subject, and serve just to explain how torrents work (it is just a form of data transfer, nothing about it is any more illegal than hosting/sharing any file on the internet).
It seems reasonable to be able to discuss and inform others about how they actual work, and I was not aware of any rule against it. There is a significant difference between hosting and sharing information that is basically a "how to steal software and media" and what my guides contain.
I had a comment on my Lewes Bonfire hub this week which included a swear word. Other than obvious SPAM I never normally delete. The comment was actually quite funny, but I didn't like the swear word so I deleted. Was I right?
I think we have a right to have "standards" with regard to things like profanity or worse language. I've only gotten a few with really crude language, and I haven't approved them. (Then, of course, you get back the "free speech" complaint ) I just figure that between HubPages and Google most likely not being too thrilled with some language, there's the thing that I don't really want it with something I've written either.
What I struggle with are the links that go with some comments. Some are obvious "commercial" spam. Some actually look like someone thought their own Hub or blog relates to the Hub, so they look "spammish". I just kind of get irritated when people do that, though - maybe because I don't do it on other people's Hubs. Then I feel unfriendly for lumping them in with spam and not approving them.
I tend to keep comments which support my hub, or give gainful discussion towards it.
Comments which are unreleated, or posted by someone who has not even read the article however, can be deleted.
Personally I never leave a link to one of my hubs without being invited to do so, though I might mention a related hub in a non-specific way. I think that's good manners. I agree that to come right out with a link straight away can look spammish.
I think that's a good practice unless it's a site like a major newspaper where people generally are not going to go back to that article, if it relates, I leave a link.
In this case, obviously the commenter came in from the internet and felt this comment was relevant and left a link. It's your choice whether to leave it or spam it.
oh, how about putting a link to one of your articles, because the commenter asked for it...(havent put links in my hubs because I am still elarning how to put links? are you allowed to put links in the comments section?
The only comments I have denied were vulgar and disgusting about the man I was writing about. They were from the same girl and I didn't think they were appropriate and found them quite redundant. The self promotion thing I don't mind, especially if it coincides with the subject at hand. People who are already on your hub and are reading the comments aren't really lost to you because they're already there. No harm, no foul.
I don't mind others promoting related hubs or content on my hubs either, but I want to be able to tell they actually read my hub and are posting something of substance.
I often see comments that give me the impression the poster just read my title, and tried to think of a way to work in one of their sites without bothering to see what was contained in my guide/post.
I have only posted a link in the comment section of another hubber once so far; and I wouldn't be offended if it got removed as it seems there are mixed feelings about that topic.
Unless I suspect the comment to be a spam and are there for the sake of linking then I will not approve it, otherwise good comments with link will get my approval
I will deny comments that aren't PG rated especially pervy ones, nobody needs those
One practice I haven't seen mentioned: It doesn't bother me to deny a comment if it's something I don't want there (or which appears to be in violation of HP guidelines). However, in most cases I will add a comment of my own explaining WHY the comment was denied. Nearly any comment with a promotional link will be denied, but in several cases, I've liked the link and have added it to a Links Capsule or even added a paragraph explaining (and including) the link in the Hub itself.
If the comment is a clear attempt to hijack the Hub (and I've had just a few of those), sometimes I leave it there...but simply, again, add my own comment explaining the problem and stating clearly that further such data WILL be denied as I've no intention of letting the Hub stray off topic.
So far these practices have worked well enough that about 2/3 of the time there's been no feedback from the person who left the comment...and the other 1/3 generated feedback expressing understanding of the action and thanking me for the explanation.
Totally agree with Dame Scribe that I'd delete anything pervy or "beyond PG" but fortunately haven't had any of those. So far.
So far, I approve everything. Have a definite dislike for censorship! If you put something out for public inspection, you have to be willing to take whatever they dish out, or don't do it.
I don't deny comments that disagree with my opinion, but I do delete comments with profanity, that are just links to another site (even if it's a hub), or don't have to do with the topic of the Hub.
I had a couple comments I went up and down back and forth with, and after leaving them there a while I realized that, it was silly to keep them when we didn't agree, so I did a kind thing and deleted them, then I had a guy that made indecent proposals and spam and I gave him the finger too. I don't think you should keep the comments if it doesn't make you feel comfortable. creativeone59
Don't comments help your hub's score go up? I would say that, and the fact that comments add fresh content to your hub which helps it in search engine rankings, is a good reason to allow almost any comment, so long as it isn't completely off topic, rude, or linking to a "bad neighborhood" site, such as online pharmacies and adult related material.
I've had to deny a couple comments this week, not because they said anything bad, but one came in from the internet with a link to her site (which looked helpful) and her name was a link. I thought that was a bit too much self-promotion given that I would like readers to stay on my page and hopefully click on an ad.
if I left that comment, another reader may have immediately left my page. I'm writing to inform, but also to bring in revenue.
the other comment I didn't include was from HP and she left a link to her hub which didn't completely agree with what I wrote, so I denied it. I think if you want to include a link, you should ask the hubber first, which I have done and she said yes.
comments do help your score to a degree, but at the same time, you want to be judicious with what you allow on your page.
Everyone has a right to pick and choose what to approve or deny, since it is an addition to the content they created.
I guess I don't see what is wrong with someone leaving a link to their site. HubPages gives the option of outside links to be posted on hubs, and I kind of think that if someone takes the time to leave me a valuable comment, then why shouldn't they get to leave a link behind?
When I say valuable, I don't mean "great hub, thanks" kind of thing, but I mean they say something that shows they actually read the hub and have a opinion about it in one way or the other.
This same kind of thing is up for debate in the realm of blog commenting. What constitutes a good, valuable comment vs. what comes across as someone just trying to drop their link onto your page? Should good comments be tossed just because the commenter posted a related link?
just tossing some thoughts out
comments are helpful to your rankings as they are read as updated content
comments can effect your keyword density (if you bother with such things...i really dont) positively and negatively, as a result comments like "thanks" and "helpful" are usually denied..if you want to say something so simple...use the thumbs up button, or share across your social networks for us with the "share" button
links in comments really are not likely to draw any of your traffic away..once your reader is that far, its not likely they are scrolling back up to click an ad or make a purchase.
at least I never behave in that manner, do you?
but if your commenter makes a habit of leaving lots of spammy links than their site may be seen as spam by search engines...linking to a spam site (bad neighborhoods) is not beneficial to your own rankings
after typing all this i now realize that "kikolani" nailed these points already much more succinctly...just dont have the energy to delete
yeah, you may be right about getting that far and then going back up but if I was very much impressed by all of the comments, it might nudge me to go back up and take a look.
I don't think there's anything wrong with someone disagreeing , I just don't want their link.
but... I do take your suggestions very seriously SF. thanks for sharing.
Here is a perfect example, it is completely random spam... but doesn't just keeping it on my page increase the chance of someone finding it on google search? Also, if something is currently marked as spam, is it visible before I delete it?
quote of recent comment on one of my hubs:
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marked as spam = not visible
no, its not likely to help you in any search results.
was left by automated software, a google search would probably show hundreds if not thousands of duplicates of that same comment.
I received that comment on two hubs and one of my external websites!
I delete all random spams and those that I feel are offensive. I like constructive crisicm not destructive.
As long as you are not comfortable with the comment, I don't see why you shouldn't delete. I never delete them unless they go way out of topic or spammy, and I usually leave anything that I don't mind there (doesn't mean I like them, I just don't mind them).
If you are even slightly inclined to delete them, then do so, or you'll be obsessing over if it was appropriate or something like that.
happy new year!
Another consideration is that the comments become part of the entire hub page. If it's something that can affect your Google ranking, then it definitely must go. I'm not one for censoring either, but I do delete comments that contain back links to promotional sites. I see I'm getting a lot of spam comments lately, and HubPages is good at detecting them and marking them as spam. Then I have a choice to mark it as "not spam" or "delete forever."
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