jump to last post 1-7 of 7 discussions (10 posts)

Clearing the air - FLAGGING (what it can and can't do)

  1. Jason Menayan profile image60
    Jason Menayanposted 8 years ago

    There is a lot of confusion on the boards about what flagging can and can't do, and what's allowed and not allowed. Let me apologize if this hasn't been clear until now.

    1. Flagging can not downgrade a Hub or apply a penalty to it.
    Flagging simply tells us to take a look at it for a possible violation (in the case of adult, gambling, spam, low-quality, etc. flags) or it tells our automated, computerized duplicate checker to check for duplicates. It can not force an outcome. There are plenty of times we don't agree with a flagger, or the computerized system doesn't find duplicates, in which case nothing happens to the Hub at all.

    2. Duplicates are allowed; they are just penalized in terms of HubScore.
    Duplicates simply means that we find the same tract of text on the Web. You could be entirely within your rights to reprint the material at HubPages. However, it will incur a HubScore penalty. That's because we believe content that is unique (i.e. you haven't either copied from another site, or reprinted across a bunch of other sites) should be rewarded with a higher relative HubScore. [Duplicates are not allowed at all for Flagship Hubs, of course - we're paying for those!]

    3. Plagiarized (i.e. unauthorized copied) content is not allowed, but the only person who can report it is the content owner.
    We must comply with US DMCA law and have a procedure where a content owner can ask us to take down plagiarized content. That procedure is laid out here.

    4. The "certified original" override is a manual process, and overrides the computer's duplicate penalty, and NOT any flagging as duplicate.
    Our computerized duplicate checker does trip up sometimes, assigning a false-positive HubScore penalty. This is NOT due to someone flagging the Hub as duplicate, but rather because it might contain some commonly-used phrases, or it may include some non-US punctuation that trips up our duplicate-detection mechanism. If you know the duplicate penalty is in error (i.e. the content you wrote is unique and not hosted on other Websites) then by all means ask us to review it by using the link at the top of the Hub (learn more > Request a Review of this Hub). However, if we check ourselves and find that the content is indeed copied on other Websites, the duplicate penalty will stand.

    Flagging, therefore, can not be used for malicious intent. If your Hub complies with our rules and is truly unique, then all the flagging in the world will not bring your Hub down one iota.

    - Jason

  2. jimmythejock profile image82
    jimmythejockposted 8 years ago

    Thanks Jason,
    lets hope this puts a stop to all of the nonsense that has been boiling over in the forums over the past couple of days, lets get back to being a community, sharing tips and hints and giving advice when asked, and sure give constructive criticism when it is required  or praise when it is deserved, but most of all lets get back to what we do best, writing hubs instead of spending all of our time in the forums.
    lets have fun together everyone.....jimmy

  3. Peter M. Lopez profile image92
    Peter M. Lopezposted 8 years ago

    That makes sense, Jason.  Thank you.

  4. Stacie Naczelnik profile image88
    Stacie Naczelnikposted 8 years ago

    Wonderful explanation.  Very clear.  Is it possible to put it somewhere where it won't get buried by forum posts?

    1. Peter M. Lopez profile image92
      Peter M. Lopezposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Indeed.  And, yeah, what Misha said.

  5. Misha profile image76
    Mishaposted 8 years ago

    This brings up the old suggestion about sticky posts smile

    If this one is made sticky, we hopefully get more people understanding this and less people fighting over this. Thanks, Jason, and please make it sticky!

  6. darkside profile image84
    darksideposted 8 years ago

    Too many stickies really make a mess.

    Maybe one sticky, with links to all the important threads that are floating around.

    "New? Confused? Read this!"

  7. Jason Menayan profile image60
    Jason Menayanposted 8 years ago

    Excellent suggestion on putting this somewhere permanently.

    I'll make a page for it and link to it from the FAQ (help page).

    1. stephhicks68 profile image84
      stephhicks68posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      That would be great.  Thanks!

    2. kashifmahmood profile image60
      kashifmahmoodposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      This will also encourage others to join hub pages smile