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Do you think this site has deteriorated?

  1. Eldritch Elegy profile image62
    Eldritch Elegyposted 7 years ago

    It was great when I joined, but now it's much slower (seems to be a lot less activity) and it seems there are a lot more small-minded big-mouthed kids here.

    Some of my favorite hubbers still seem to be here, but that's pretty much the only reason I visit anymore.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Aw really? You mean no one wants to listen to you preaching?

      In that case - sure..........

      1. John Kounoupis profile image60
        John Kounoupisposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Heehee.... You took the words right out of my mouth.

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          lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          mine too big_smile

          1. tantrum profile image62
            tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            and mine as well! but Mark always does ! lol
            nice pic, lyrics !! smile

    2. tantrum profile image62
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Good bye !! big_smile

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      pgrundyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's only a general impression and very subjective, but I think the internet has changed since I first joined HP. When I first came here, it wasn't that hard to get freelance work and everyone here seemed pretty friendly. I don't remember any trolls. (Maybe they were here but I just don't remember.)

      Now, it seems like everybody and their mother is trying to make a buck online and trying to sell you something so you can too, plus, HP has several resident trolls. By trolls I mean people who rarely write hubs and just lurk around the forums and the hubs of people they dislike to snark and snipe and generally degrade the atmosphere and make it a drag for everyone.

      But I don't know that that is unique to Hub Pages. I think it happens to all popular web sites after awhile. That's my perception anyway, for what it's worth.

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      lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's a shame you feel that way - do you know everyone on the site?

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      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Having looked at your hubs, you dont seem like you could be happy with anything. It is hard to cater for everybody, especially emos. If somebody wants to believe that everything is deteriorating then nobody can change their perception, just dont let yourself stay on that downward spiral for too long.

    6. Himitsu Shugisha profile image77
      Himitsu Shugishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I just joined a couple of weeks ago, but I find that the interaction and feedback has been great. I'd be interested to read how some of the vets feel about what you wrote.

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      Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      "seems there are a lot more small-minded big-mouthed kids here"

      Wow that is harsh! Find another website then if you don't like this one anymore.

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        blatvaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I agree. That seems to be a vague insult to anyone who hasn't been on here as long as you. And yet, I almost have as many hubs as you!
        There's really no reason to get huffy. If you don't like their work, Then don't read it.

        Kinda solves your problem.

    8. Marisa Wright profile image93
      Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm assuming you mean the forums, rather than the whole site?

      When I first joined, pretty much the only people on the HubPages forums were Hubbers.  For some reason, recently there's been an influx of people with no interest in Hubbing, who are just here for the forums.  On some threads, they seem to have taken over from the Hubbers!  I don't understand why that's the case and I think it's a shame, because it dilutes the writers' community. And all the nastiness means that Hubbers are more likely to stay away and get on with the job instead.

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      Pacal Votanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Don't worry about what people said here. I think that some of them have misunderstood your post.

  2. Cagsil profile image59
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    I'm sorry you feel that way. sad

    1. tantrum profile image62
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well, she looks angry, doesn't she ?
      lol

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        lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        or constipated

        1. tantrum profile image62
          tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol lol lol

        2. Bovine Currency profile image61
          Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I would be angry when constipated.  Hasn't been a problem for me lately tongue

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    ryankettposted 7 years ago

    Well it is certainly not slower, I have just achieved a record number of page views for the past 24 hours... over 5000. Hubpages traffic has constantly grown. You only have 23 hubs though, in 9 months, so you will be falling behind.... the web grows and grows, hubpages grows and grows, something like 100,000 new hubs in 2 months..... that represented 20% growth.... are you writing quick enough to retain your share of the traffic?

    Not sure who you refer to with your other comments, but the forum is nothing but a small part of this site; so many hubbers publish but do not participate in the forums - much like you.

    1. GeneralHowitzer profile image62
      GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Wow ryan you are really doing your homework 5,000 views in a day is great... I posted consistent views either and have some increase... smile

      Hi Craz, How is it going...

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        Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        heya General! been a while since we've chatted lol going good for me...how about yourself?

        1. GeneralHowitzer profile image62
          GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yeah it is, thats good you're doing fine... I'm doin well too...

          I just  made a hub that is a tribute to your Dad feel free to read it if you have time.. i'll post the link to one of your hub... big_smile

  4. mega1 profile image79
    mega1posted 7 years ago

    I'm sure I'M not the problem! http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-angel-006.gif

  5. Laura du Toit profile image92
    Laura du Toitposted 7 years ago

    Anything in life is what you put in and what you make of what is available. If you don't give much you can hardly expect much in return. I find I only get out of Hubpages, or any other site, the same amount as what I am prepared to put in. smile

  6. Eldritch Elegy profile image62
    Eldritch Elegyposted 7 years ago

    ... hmm. This topic seems to have proven my point.

    1. Cagsil profile image59
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

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      1. Marisa Wright profile image93
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Cagsil, I think you are proving her point - the original poster didn't say anything rude or nasty, she merely expressed her opinion.  To be disparaging in return is completely uncalled for.

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      Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You had a point? really? I didn't see one expcet for you complaining about the people on here. Like someone else said start your own topic and see if anyone wants to join you. Of course after a remark like the one you made I doubt it.

      1. drej2522 profile image85
        drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I like it!

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      Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh she did Pacal when she came back and wrote this.

  7. rebekahELLE profile image92
    rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago

    just remember, small minds discuss people.

  8. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Seems to me if you are unhappy with the level of conversation on a forum then you should start a conversation that will live up to your standards.

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      Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Amen.

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      Pacal Votanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      She wasn't talking about the forum.

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        Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Actually Pacal she is talking about the forums

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          Pacal Votanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          How do you know? I thought that someone who has 30 or so forum posts in 9 months might not know so much about the forums.

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    Thank God for small miracles....big_smile

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    pgrundyposted 7 years ago

    I think some of the replies are kind of harsh. Not everyone knows what they want from this site. It does have its ups and downs. And it does change. For example I've noticed in recent months more product-oriented hubs. I don't see that as good or bad, just different when compared to two years ago. So some people, they come here and like it, then things change, they don't like it anymore.

    The internet is like that, not just Hub Pages. Sometimes I like it. Other times it gets on my nerves. I think it's normal to have those changing feelings about it. Tis site takes a lot of energy and effort and the payoff is not always obvious. You have to have a certain drive independent of what you get out of it in order to keep writing here.

  11. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    I do admit that I am annoyed that every thread on the religious forum ends up in the same arguments. No matter what the topic, it always ends up arguing about evolution or homosexuality.

    1. rebekahELLE profile image92
      rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      not only do they end up arguing, they end up hi-jacked. if someone wants to discuss something, let them discuss. if people aren't interested, then don't go in. why is that so hard to get?
      attention seeking... hmm

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      pgrundyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That gets to me too. I only pop in here sporadically and it never lasts very long.

      On the other hand, when things got very ugly here in September and October the HP staff did crack down on some of the most aggressive offenders. Lots of wailing about it, but at least they did try to get people to be a little more decent to each other.

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    Exciting isn't it? Ugh. I couldn't get up enough enthusiasm to pull that one off, sorry. big_smile

  13. Bovine Currency profile image61
    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago

    its getting like the Irish in there at the moment.

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    They're using cutlery now?

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    Hi Y'all! big_smile

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      Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Denno? Is that really you? no sheep but you?

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        Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah, that's the real me. big_smile

        1. drej2522 profile image85
          drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          damnit! I miss the sheep!

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            Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Well, I'm glad for your sake lol

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          Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          wow Denno. Nice pic

          1. wyanjen profile image88
            wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Ditto.

            Crazd, do we need to start a new fan club?
            (lol)

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              Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              that's all you jen that's all you lol tongue wink

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              Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hmm, nice mug big_smile

              1. wyanjen profile image88
                wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Well, I added the mistletoe just today.

                lol

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                  Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I am soooo inclined to do the holiday festive thingy big_smile

                  1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image90
                    mistyhorizon2003posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Love your new image Denno, very cute wink

                  2. wyanjen profile image88
                    wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Mistletoe is one of the few holiday traditions I hold sacred.

                    I also participate in the office XMas party every year.
                    Can't get away from it.

                    lol

  16. Colebabie profile image60
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Nope, cuz dre is still here!

    (Just sendin' the love back your way smile )

    1. drej2522 profile image85
      drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      awww...(touched)

  17. h.a.borcich profile image60
    h.a.borcichposted 7 years ago

    The forums here are...intense. The religion forum threads do get hijacked and usually end up with the same few having the same perpetual arguments.

      And other topics tend to be high emotion threads. They can quickly get very rough. Many opinions and diversity makes quite a stew.

      There also is a bully type presence from time to time. If one of the "group" dislikes you, they will taunt ruthlessly. I have seen it play out repeatedly. They can be friendly when they want to, but very mean when they choose to be. Take it in stride. I do.

      Those are just how the forum is now. Maybe it will change, maybe it won't. Just keep writing, I think you have good hubs:)

  18. beth811 profile image68
    beth811posted 7 years ago

    So simple! If you don't like here anymore, have a graceful exit. Just don't make fuss about this site and hubbers here whom you labeled  degradingly.

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    I  don't know about some of these posters anymore. This is  almost like home to me now. Family like with all the fuss and drama too. Where else could one find such beautiful people? hubbers are the bestest! big_smile

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      Denno66posted 7 years ago

      We do our best to achieve the least! big_smile

    2. h.a.borcich profile image60
      h.a.borcichposted 7 years ago

      There really are a good bunch of writers and hubs. I been dragging getting more hubs published...is it bad to publish like 4 or more in a day?

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      Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago

      Okay denno spill it! About your pic....are you looking over your shoulder because someone is sneaking up on ya or are you just up to no good? big_smile

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        Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Always up to no good. lol

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          Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yep I nailed it! lol

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      Denno66posted 7 years ago

      I scare myself sometimes big_smile

    5. Mighty Mom profile image88
      Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

      Holiday festive thingy?
      I want a holiday festive thingy! big_smile

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      Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago

      You did General? aa how sweet I'll have to read it and you might want to change dad to grandpa though...Papa means grandpa to me lol

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      Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago

      "and it seems there are a lot more small-minded big-mouthed kids here."
      That is what tipped me off that she is talking about the forums.

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        Pacal Votanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I thought she was talking about new hubbers hubs. But you may be right. Hope she comes back to clarify.

    8. Eaglekiwi profile image73
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

      Ouch @small minded...

      Gosh Ive never met/chatted to you before ,so I reckon you dont know me either smile


      Please dont judge, but if ya want to- write a hub about it, and ya can bitch n whine about how mean ,small minded people are ,cuz Ive read a couple of those types of hubs and it seems to be cheaper than therapy...why I might even write one if I could just pull myself away from one of those other deterioting sites  lol

     
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