I am still relatively new here, others said that it takes six months of hard work and more,
I had only like 21 US dollars in my earnings so far, adsense..
its ok I am enjoying my stay here
2 months and 100+ hubs! You've put in a huge effort!
And it does take a while. It's good that you know that. It takes a while to lay down a firm foundation.
Working on it! I hope to earn more, but who ever thought I'd earn money writing - doing what I love to do?
I'm pleased with my earnings, for what I have put in. I think I got a check from Google just about every month this year, and one was particularly nice. And this is just for somewhat sporadic writing, and musings. I could only imagine if I really applied myself.... which I plan to do!!! Discipline....discipline....discipline....HubPages is an awesome writers platform!!!
I know i have learned a lot and earnings are not bad, considering i've earned a few hundred pounds till date.
I have earned much more than money here. I have new friends, mentors, advisers, role models(of which you are one darkside), etc, etc. Kind and dedicated hubbers, people who have shown me the way to earn money online. It seems that HP is my world now.
Yes, because of hubpages, i discovered i could do a bit of writing and i'm begining to feel quite proud of myself (well! kind of). However, its not yet uhuru for me because i still learn something new everyday and try to apply it to my writing.
Right now its backlinking i find challenging, but i'll get there with time.
PS: still can't figure out google analytics though, believe it or not.
In four months I've made £3.94 (about $6). It's been an interesting experience, I've learned a lot, and I'm hoping that in a couple of months' time I'll start to see a steeper earnings curve than the one I'm on now!
However, in terms of making money in the short- rather than the long-term, I think I'm better off giving article submission sites a try (shame that some of them only seem to accept people from the US). I've submitted my first article to constant-content.com, and await developments.
I do. I didn't announce it last week but I hit $100 already in my Adsense. This is a pre-audit figure which they may still adjust but it's kind of nice to see that figure.
congrats emie, YEHEY, can you received it before christmas day??
Unfortunately, nope. I think, if all goes well, I will receive it around February?
oh emie, hmmm, you can have a good valentines celeb then
I'm sure many have earned lot's and some have earn ZIP! As for myself it's ZIP, but I'm not really in it for the money, it would be nice but I'm here for the pure enjoyment I'm having writing and doing the forums. A real blast for me. Thanks
Have to agree - I have had a lot of clients through HP, so I am pretty happy with things
clients? hmm Sufi, what have you been doing> just kidding good day<
Hey Sufi, how're you doing? Haven't seen you around HP for quite some time.
Hi Emie and PDH - I have a lot of work at the moment, so I only manage to visit HP when I have a quick break. Lots of work is better than no work, though
How are you doing?
Same here but it's work in 'real life', not online work. Got two seminars this week and next week so have to prepare my materials. Hope I can earn moolah here .
I am good, working (outside the house) and writing here, thanks
Have a brilliant Christmas Sufi Summer is here brilliant weather at mo.
I would have to agree with you darkside lol, I have made quite a bit from my scribblings here on hubpages and the fact that hubpages make money too means that they can keep the site going and we can keep earning from it.....jimmy
I hope you did not start this thread to poke a stick at 20 Something Darkside
Not sure if you intended this thread as a discussion piece on affiliate income here or in a general earning of knowledge sense.
Those who write product reviews clearly have an edge in regard to $ earning potential.
However, as a general writing site, HP provides an excellent springboard to writing confidence, styles and development.
I've made more money here than I ever thought I would, and like Sufi said, it has helped me with freelance clients, so I can't complain.
Very recently my ad income here has plummeted to pennies a day though, which is disappointing. I think I'm only up or 3 or 4 dollars for all of December. I don't really want to write product reviews and don't have a lot of time to do so, but I've written a few and I did get one small Amazon payout last month. I literally went from double digit days this summer to two and three penny days starting after Thanksgiving.
Mostly though I've been busy with freelance projects and haven't had as much time to write HP stuff.
My Adsense income from hubpages has been very low for last couple of weeks. Its alright on other sites but here, its really low these days.
My CTR on here has almost halfed since they started sticking those long ads down the side, thats why my hubs are becoming a little more infrequent! Although those ads may just be on hubpages share of impressions?
Well that's the frustrating thing for me--all the stats and figuring out how to format the hubs for bsst ad placement and so forth. One thing I really liked about HP at first was that they kind of handled building traffic to the site, and so long as I wrote interesting content, I didn't have to worry so much about that end of it. Now so many people are writing here and the money making end of it is so competitive that I'm clearly out of my element. It's disappointing, but it is what it is. I'm lucky I can focus on freelance work instead, but I admit I miss the Google revenue. I started here to build a freelance portfolio, and it did do that for me, plus I've met lots of nice people. But the money end of it? Not no easy for geezers.
Pam you just wrote a brilliant product hub on what NOT to buy, just turn it around and write a brilliant hub on what to buy. You're really just talking yourself out of it for some reason. Or it may be just a lack of interest in writing product hubs. And I get that. Because writing effective sales copy is very different from writing interesting articles on the paranormal.
Not sure if they are on the hubpages share of impressions. Yes, I am experiencing the lowest ever CTR for december on the HP channels.
I don't think it's just you. I have gone to pennies a day too for the whole month of December so far. I am hoping it's just temporary, but it sure is disappointing. Good luck!
I'm happy here, but I've had the same problem that Pam is experiencing. My adsense income has plummeted since December 1. Wonder why? I have made some Amazon sales, however.
I make about $150-$200 per month from hubpages.... but that is with the full knowledge that half of my hubs would never make me money.... and after less than 6 months of publishing. The pleasing bit is that I know my next 195 hubs WILL make me $600+ per month, at the moment the only thing holding me back is time.
i think you work hard too, so you are geting there really,
I am getting there definitely, I have earnt more money from some offline work gained via hubpages then I have from Adsense.... but thats all good. My traffic rises weekly too, and I have started seeing natural backlinks.... in 6 months I suspect that I will be earning more than I could ever have expected on this site.
Ryankett with the hubs you have done this success is sure in the offing. Hats of to your confidence and best wishes for reaching the milestone soon.
As for the OP question, It took me 8 months of actual writing to get my first adsense. It has just been two months since the paycheck and I have already 52$ in the kitty. I know it is not big compared to all the big earners. I am happy with the way things are faring up. The knowledge and learning experience is priceless. I value this more than the money now.
I'm getting there. Both Adsense and Amazon are doing fine. Even better - the learning process is priceless
I am soooo close to my next adsense payout. I am not a big earner here but hope to be in the New Year. I also wanted to point out that writing for hubpages gives me a little more than cash. It gives me a sense of accomplishment. It really gives me a boost when I am not able to be with my son...
I get very few clicks, but I think it has to do with my page views. I even had a few Amazon sales, but they didn't have it in stock, so I guess I have to wait until the items are shipped. I have only been on hubpages for a couple months, although it seems like forever.
Mine has actually gone up in the past week. Most from HowToDoThings though.
I've made a a lot of money, since I started hubbing in earnest in May 2009, from Hubpages. I'll probably write a hub about it in January after I finalize the total amount. The money is here to be made, if you want to approach HubPages as a business.
I think you've really done wonderful things here Nelle, and it is clear you are an AWESOME businesswoman.
Making money at HP is a moving target kind of thing. From the start my main goal has been to write well and build an audience. I feel I've done that, but writing well has never been a good way to get rich. I'm clear on that and my goals still relate to writing first, money second.
I got a few good Google checks this summer by accident and it felt good, but I have to keep what I do best in mind and focus on that.
Pam your paranormal stuff is sooooooooo good. I just love it. I hope it leads to a bunch of good stuff, because there does seem to be a market for it.
Thanks Nelle! I do alright. You nailed it with my lack of interest in writing product hubs. I do that for some of my freelance clients, so when I come here I just want to do what I want to do. I mean, for me, there has to be a place where I can be creative and be me, or writing isn't even worth it. That's just me, it's just how I am.
The money for isn't AWFUL though... If I look at all my sources of writing income (HP, freelance work, Examiner, etc), I have been roughly doubling my income each year for three years. Right now, I'm at a good place with it. If I double what I made this year in 2010 it will be like a regular full-time 'job' income and I'll be more than content.
I have earned quite a lot from hubpages, on around $750 so far this month, and I hope the value keeps on growing!
I don't really write sales copy or product hubs, but in October 2009 I pulled down just about 10 dollars shy of $1000 with only 150-something Hubs.
Hitting your niche doesn't have to mean turning into a sales person, and given the state of the US economy, I like to give people something other than a message that just tells them to buy stuff. I also think having a really broad mix of topics and styles provides for some insulation for when people aren't shopping.
I know I've made quite a bit here on HP. The first couple months were shaky and I didn't earn much but then I made it past the learning curve and things started to skyrocket. With EPN, Amazon, and Adsense, I earn between $200 and $300 each month just from my hubs, but out of 124 hubs, around 20 of them haven't earned a single penny of Adsense.
If you want to earn money here on HP you have to write what people are searching for. Having a lot of followers is great (for the ego) but you'll earn money from those that find your work through the search engines and referral sites (backlinks).
pgrundy, your writing is brilliant. Your gift hub is a masterpiece of snarky glee.
I'm at $7.38 after four months. I do not have nearly enough published because I spend my writing time studying how-to hubs and forums.
The learning here is priceless and I've said before that I feel like I should be paying tuition to somebody.
I don't normally jump in this type of forum, but I'm here to say that after weeks of study I am just now starting to write a couple hubs that use what I have learned. We'll see if I flop or not I'm really excited that I'm starting to feel like I know what I'm doing.
So the answer to your question Darkside: I have earned a HELL of a lot in terms of how-to. I'm hoping to see a payout in a couple months but most importantly I've got some hope. Cheesy yes, but it's been a long time since I found something good.
Thanks for the compliment. That's nice of you to say.
I think my writing skills are good but my internet skills suck. I just can't get with it, and try as I might to care, I can't summon that either.
Clearly there's something I don't do very well or I wouldn't be having .03 cent days two years into being here. I'm not going to write about cell phones or Tiger Woods or whatever just because people are searching for that, and I don't like to write product reviews and haven't done well with the few I've tried, so I just have to make my money elsewhere.
I don't like judging myself by how much money I generate anyway. Lots of people who are total jerks make money--so what? That's why I left the bank. That's why I work for myself. I generated lots of money at the bank until I began to hate myself for it. It isn't what matters to me. I want to do work I care about, not just be a human ATM.
Sometimes it gets very frustrating though--I mean, lots of people here talk about learning so much. I clearly haven't. Or won't.
This thread is HubPages at its best. Some really great writers sharing their success stories with virtually no back-biting or bitchary!
I'm here to learn rather than earn much as I have a demanding day job (at the moment!) but my income has risen steadily over the nearly 2 years that I have been here. HubPages is my favorite writing site and most of what I've learned has come from fellow hubbers.
Darkside (and several other people in this thread) typify what makes Hubpages great. Wishing all you good Hubbers a great holiday and a prosperous (AdSense permitting) New Year!
I didn’t apply for AdSense right away per recommendations by Lissie. A lot of people were getting declined when I started. I applied and set up my AdSense account 11 Nov and have made at least a few cents every day. I’m over $15 at this point from AdSense. I haven’t made anything from Amazon.
I've earned some, and that's more than I expected when I joined this site. What I'm enjoying now more than $ is being read and a steady increase in search engine traffic. I am learning a lot about many things and it helps in other categories of work/like. Everything seems to be connected.
what I do see is important is something I read from Paul Edmonson when I first started, write what you know and love. and write 'evergreen' articles, something which will always be searched.
Darkside's words that always help me while writing, 'write for the reader, what does your reader want to know, what doesn't he know...' that's what makes writing here truly unique, writing from ones own perspective. there's so much to learn from each other, and I take what applies to my own style and don't try to copy someone else.
[Sometimes it gets very frustrating though--I mean, lots of people here talk about learning so much. I clearly haven't. Or won't.]
I agree about product review hubs. I can't pull that off, it's not how I think I guess.
It's been so long since I stopped writing that I'm still trying to get my old style back.
It's a shame that you are not seeing better revenue. Maybe try an Extreme Hub Makeover? I have to think there could be some minor things you could do to help out your hubs, without changing your style or your topics.
In any case, your content is great.
If you arent good at writing about products which you dont own, which is understandable, then try writing about things you do own. If you like the product in question, then write a positive review and insert an Amazon capsule. It is very easy to write an honest review of something that you use in your everday life; a lot easier on the soul then lying.
It took me nearly 6 months to reach my first payout, but my second is well underway ...
I am sure HubPages makes tons of money but I would not say that all hubbers make ANY money--let alone 'a lot"--whatever that would be.
I am personally NOT an "ad writer".
Come to think of it, a lot of people who think they are really aren't either.
I've read or rather seen the hubs.
Some people cannot even speak or write English properly.
Others have more ads than text.
I think there are actually very few people doing it in a very balanced/right way, if you will.
I have stopped even looking at the hubs of certain people because I know it's just crap and ads.
You really have to have a balance if you're going to do this money-making thing, ya know?
I guess it depends on what people are searching for. I know there are times when I'm searching for a topic and the first few google searches often are nothing but ads and a few lines of text. It's frustrating. there are times when I have to go to the second page to get a decent article which isn't covered with ads.
I totally agree with you, you have pretty much summed it up. I certainly do not read Hubs that are solely ad based. I also dislike duplicity and will not read boring Hubs that have been merely researched from the excellent work of others.
For like all forms of plagerism, you can spot the fakes.
I've earned the price of a coffee!!!
Its not enough money for the airfare to buy one in some exotic destination but if I could get my hands on the dosh, I could pay for one here! Perhaps I can shorten my name to "espresso".
Hi pgrundy, I feel kind of bad that you haven't made anything, your Hubs all seem pretty good!
Have you tried altering your hub layout?
Try placing two related amazon adverts side by side below each product you talk about in your top tens, that boosted my conversion rate!
I always have my set up as the following
Text ¦ Picture
This kind of layout gives the reader the review of the product, then gives them the price, and an opportunity to buy. If you have your Amazon Ads before the reader has finished reading the review, they may just skip right past them!
I think you should be an advisor to the President.
Seriously? That's what we need--a president who knows how to sell stuff on the internet. Yeah.
i love your Wii hub. the layout is perfect! made me want to get my Wii back from my son
yep. i always write about things i either own, have owned, have first-hand knowledge of or just love. that way i can add my own experiences with the things i write about. i think people like to see that personalization a little, plus it's fun to write about things you like...
Thanks, Mark Knowles sent me a similar tip and I did start using it on my newer hubs. I haven't reworked the others, but maybe after Xmas if my freelance work drops off I could productively spend some time reworking layouts and stuff.
Appreciate the good advice.
It doesn't have to be about the money!
Furthermore, the amount of money made or NOT made has nothing to do whatsoever with the quality of writing.
I think I have one account set up.
My boss did it for me.
At least she tried to do it for me.
I have not even checked it for months.
Well, I've made the price of a cup of tea in the caff down the hill
Still, after only four weeks and four hubs, I'm not complaining. It's as much as I made in over 2 months with 13 articles at another site which is nothing like as friendly and fun as HP.
My main obstacle is time. I seem to end up with silly work deadlines, which leave little time for hubbing.
My second obstacle is that I don't get the SEO and traffic stuff despite reading tons here and elsewhere. I run and put a link somewhere to a hub. That brings me a little blip of about two readers and then nothing.
My third obstacle is that I'm not very product oriented and also a bit out of the mainstream, so I don't really know what people are looking for.
I've decided I'm going to play around, doing what I want to do and enjoying the ride. If I get some pennies as well, I'll save them up for a bottle of Bolly
Oh, and I forgot to say mega-congratulations to those of you who manage to make a real business out of your hubs. I'm sure you put in huge amounts of time and effort and deserve everything you get.
I'm extremely grateful for the opportunity to hang out with the type of talent I've seen here at HubPages. I've learned so much since I've been here and keep trying to soak up more along the way. There are so many here that are willing to share what they know and how they got where they are.
It took me 9 months to get my first payout, but only 2 months to get the 2nd. I was just a little shy of making that monthly payout in November, but that's ok. I hit it early in December which makes the rest of December the gravy money. In Amazon sales, I've made more in 10 days in December than I did on any whole month prior. This is going to be a good month.
"When I grow up" I hope to be just like Nelle or Mark and make some serious monthly money.
Well KCC you are earning quicker than I am, so well done, you must be doing something right
I think next year will be a very good year for you!
I agree, although I am not a 'big earner' I know I am a slow and easily distracted writer. I can however see there is great earning potential on HP and I am happy with the amount I have made so far.
I'm working on my backlinks, and although it has only been 4 weeks here, i am really enjoying myself!
Money is the last thing on my mind with writing on HP, but i am working towards setting up as many backlinks as possible.
I have noticed a very high traffic rate since setting up all my hubs on Xomba, and i'm sure i'll get more when i set up on other bookmarking sites.
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