Neither makes a difference. It is how each individual reads into it that matters and with that said.....since it was fan and is now follower....if you have that much hatred for religion, I suggest you channel your energy elsewhere, like maybe writing more Hubs, denouncing religion.
Either way, it shouldn't make that big of a difference. The explanation given for the change I accept and I've made the proper adjustment I've needed to.
Let me ask, are you into any pro sports? If so do you have a favorite team? If so then you could legitimately be "labeled" a "follower" of that team as well as "fan". In this context though I see no connotation of the term "follower" in HubPages that has any reference whatsoever to your religious affiliations. You need to step back and reassess the way you are interpreting the use of the term "follower" in this context. I feel the term "fan" leads another person to interpret that you agree and support a certain person or idea much more. I'm sure a lot of people "follow" the war in Iraq, but not all of them support it.
So now it's a violation of your civil rights? LOLOLOL!!!
I'm sure you wouldn't be able to explain civil rights to me, seeing that you've already done a terrible job of convincing anyone that a website changing a word from fan to follower is 'discrimination'.
An opinion is one thing, but when you start throwing around allegations it's another. Mind you, it's outrageous allegations. If you are being discriminated against and your civil rights are being violated, I'm sure there is an appropriate government department that can take a written complaint.
The perception of discrimination comes into play based upon the notion that the term "follower" is being used in the same context as it would be if it were referring to a person who adheres to a certain religious belief system. That is an incorrect understanding of the context of the term "follower" in this instance. As I stated before in the context of HP a follower does not necessarily support and agree with the views of a particular hubber, they are merely "following" their activity. A fan has a more supportive connotation to it in the context of the HP.
No, now the politically correct term is "associate" in a retail environment and "co-worker" in most others. I prefer the term follower more than fan. You can "follow" someone's hub activity and keep up to date on what they publish and still think they are a buffoon worthy of no praise. Being a "fan" just doesn't leave that latitude and has the connotation that you agree with and support them.
The meaning of a word does not come from the speaker but the listener. It is all in how you interpet the word, not what the speaker (in this case writer) intended it to mean. Therefore if YOU TAKE offense to it, its you with the issue, the offense wasn't given to you.
Only if the one communicating lacks the needed vocabulary and understanding of contextual modifications of meaning of the words used to convey the intended message. The English language can be very precise through both the definition of the words used and the context in which they are used. Both the situational and structural context can have significant effect on the hearers perception of the message conveyed. It is up to the one communicating to use language that conveys the meaning intended. Saying the meaning of a word is dependent on the hearer is incorrect. The communicator has to use language that is accessible and understandable to their intended audience. If that is overlooked then of course the hearer will interpret the message based upon thier vocabulary and comprehension skills.
If you prefer to “slang” that idea around…go for it...But the facts are a word means what it means and the speaker has no duty to insure the listener’s wrong definition or idea of it as long as he has Merriam Webster at his back.
I write because I want people to read. You can follow someone and not be interested in their work ('spam fanning' if you will). Fan implies that someone likes your work and follow you because they like your work, not just because you happen to be there.
The followers thing irritates me because I feel like it has taken all my dignity away as a writer. You don't buy a book because you follow the author (after all that is stalking) - you buy a book because you are a fan of that author.
Anyway, everyone's entitled to their different opinions. That is just where I stand.
Although, I have become used to it now so I'm not overly worried anymore.
I am really not that tall so being called one of the sheep really doesn't sound so bad to me. Just kidding! The term doesn't matter to me as it still serves the same function. If we begin to disect and pick at the smallest of details we may wind up curtailing our own individual progress in whatever our pursuits on HP whether literary or monetary - or both.
Given the below definitions and alternatives I prefer the use of the term Fan, if given only the choice of the two. However, that most of us are more individualist and once we have “Fanned” someone we merely stating we hold an interest to be advised of new work that may be produced by those that we have chosen as potentially interesting.
Find a word that defines the above and that’s what term should be applied.
Definition: person who believes or has great interest
I don’t see anything in the definitions with religious connotation at all. The words disciple, apostle, worshiper are all synonymous with all the other words. Whether they be applied to political, social, economic or any other association. Any other such definition with religious connotations you have added and its meaning is one that only applies to your personal interpretation of that word.
But none of those words provides equity to the definition of the actions we are discussing as I described. So if your intention is for me to agree to your interpretation, I do not.
So I guess pylos26, you, would be stuck in Oz with the munchkins, because you didn't want to follow the yellow brick road. because you would be considered a follower?
You're never going to get to the emerald city with that attitude! You would be letting everyone who follows you down! Sorry tin man, Lion, and the scarecrow. I will never meet you, because I can't be a follower. And, you certainly can't follow me. Because then you would be followers too! I hate you all!!!
I have many times heard and read those words used with a religous connotation, but I have also heard and seen them used in the other scenerios I described. Are you suggesting the associations for other words can only be used in one format.
For example the word "convert", can it only mean one that changed from one religion to another, or could it be, for example, that a liberal progressive became enlightened and educated to the facts of real life and choose to convert to conservatism.
Ah the progressives have arrived. I shall allow you to continue the conversation along the anti-religious vain, though I was only discussing the actual definitions of the two words.
That you are asking the question however seems to demonstrate you are of the of the liberal progressive crowd and the entitlement strain, and either recipient of or supporter for and/or happily advancing the cause of redistribution of wealth.
Not knowing you, other than the information in your profile, my bet is recipient now or at some point, via academia and/or endowment for the arts or both, but again that is just a guess. If my guess is incorrect, well, oops, sorry.
Interestingly you only entered the conversation when I proposed a hypothetical example of conversion, like that's impossible. I assume the standard liberal ridicule will be your next retort.
actually, you brought up the facts of life, i only asked for a clarification.
regarding the "liberal progressive crowd" you refer to, i don't hang with crowds. kind of funny about that, free thinker and all. there is no such thing as entitlement. anything i have been the "recipient" of came through effort and hard work. that includes working my way thru college. twice. so yeah, oops.
i look at the "redistribution of wealth" that you speak of more along the lines of a transfer of cash from the working class to the elite. i guess it could be a redistribution of sorts.
regarding these forums, you or i or anyone else can enter into any discussion whenever we feel like it, as the set-up currently stands. when i enter into this discussion is totally irrelevant to the question asked.
And perhaps you should check profiles before spouting, though I am not surprised about the attention statement considering the content thus far. Forgive me for thinking you might have had something intellegent to debate. Sometimes relative boredom drives one to make poor choices. Have a nice night.
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