I disagree with you Lissie 100%. Yes things are on the inrnet forever...and if that is what Lyrics wants to write then I say she has ever right to write it and she is in the RIGHT for writing it. If you don't agree then by all means don't read her hubs or any personal hubs for tha matter since obviously you'll disagree with anything anone has written that is personal.
Lyrics,
That is the hub that drew me to fan, follow, stalk or whatever you! It is a great heartfelt hub and I think you will need to "compartmentalize" that negative comment. Forget about it and just keep on hubbing. I am sure you have helped a lot of folks with your hubs.
Honesty between family members is a requirement. If there isn't then the trust issues that destroy families invades and all is lost.
Just a thought.
Bad stuff happens in any well lived life! Some, like lyrics have the guts to talk about it.
I don't know how many hits it will get over the years, but would not mind betting it helps some one in need of this emotional learning.
I have seen who lyrics is over time. Good solid hubber who supports others and helps in the hub community........
It's about track record.
See now Lyr, even out of something negative like this, some good has come about...and i.e we've all had a chance to show you just how much we love and admire you! I hope that alone will give you reason to smile...and let go of this hurt. Life's too precious to be wasted over such negativity...!
I only ever wanted my daughter to know her true mother as I am and who I am.
I cannot handle anymore loss this week.
And now I have blown a gasket thanks to Lissie.
It wasn't enough to be attacked by a stranger targeting my pain out of the blue but now you Lissie judge and attack me the same way because you read my Hub. What do you know that gives you the right to have the answers to what was read in 1200 words. Nothing.
Your sorry to repetitive you said. no your not you enjoyed it. Your the tough smart kind that knows best but hides behind whoever goes first. Do you know this Debbie since you share the exact same views? From 235 comments i get one woman attacking my character and decisions.
Your suggestion for me to unpublish my hub is the very same demoralizing behavior I endured while loosing my daughter. Hide the truth. get rid of the facts. No one needs to know. It's nobody's business.
The very same reason i am able to write a hub like this are the same reasons from wht I have learned in the challenges in my life.
I m a drug addict. it is a disease. i stopped and am in recovery,I want my daughter to know this and know the signs of addiction and powerlessness and being unmanageable are the beginning of surrender that brings us to a place in our lives of recovery
I want her to know I have severe mental illness and this is the reason I lost her. That mommy has been sick for a long time. I want her to see if you keep trying answers will come
I want her to know I am a survivor of abuse assault and abandonment so she understands strength can be found through acceptance, humility and eventually gratitude in the freedom of recovery.
I want her to know her mommy writes hubs about the brutal truth so that she can continue to grow and learn by risking what she believes is to be true
I want her to know none of this was her fault
and if i unpublish the fucking hub i am denying all the truth i have risked sharing in order to understand things myself and it could pose shame on me as if i was a bad person because of my unpreventable shortcomings.
How dare you lissie, you are self absorbed uneducated righteous sick person
Never do i want to converse with you or disrespect myself by debating what is now turning into a hub in this forum
but now you too got the attention you do needed. congratulations to you
lastly did you ever once consider what it might be like for me every single day before you suggested i eliminate my truth.
I'm out of breath and out of energy. My anger is out of control and you topped it off
bravo, the stupidest part of it allis I don't even know who the hell you are. Nor do I want to
Thank you everyone for your support
I am struggling right now and do not intent to ramble but i have had enough
enough
enough
Just keep the awareness, Kim, that many here love you for your honesty and beautiful spirit.
Lyricsingray, take a deep breath. Hold your head up high. You overcame your addictions. You are a beautiful, intelligent, and strong woman. I don't know your whole story, but I know how hard it is to overcome a drug addiction. I also know that the people who sit on a computer and make comments about how wrong and how bad you are, are the people who have had their entire lives handed to them on a silver platter. This "Lissie" has no room to judge you, as she has not walked in your shoes and will never know what your life was or is today.
As for your daughter reading this hub, how can this be a bad thing? She will see how much you love her, how much you long for her to be with you, and how hard it was to overcome your addictions. Your daughter will learn from your mistakes and she will have peace of mind, knowing that you love her.
You know you are better than this woman. And her words mean nothing compared to what you have been through in your life.
It's really none of my business. All I did was recommending your not leaving Dianne's link on your hub. If that makes no sense, then forget it.
I know I wouldn't want my daughter to see me like you are in that video. Especially if you've moved on. I'd want her to know what I feel and that I'm better.
That's not a judgment. I don't think any of this was your fault. I'm no stronger or better than you. In fact, it's pretty likely that I'm weaker and I would have done worse than you. So...
Kimberly, I hope you will try to get some rest soon. You deserve some quiet time.
haunty, did you not read that she had enough? if you read her hub, she asks for no judgment of her.
kimberly, you're in my heart.
some people should think before posting.
There are deep feelings to consider.
Lyrics, I again offer my sympathy. I have been and continue to be judged and unfairly at that. Nobody here knows you ro your situation, only what bits you have let us know, based on those pieces of information everyone should opt to read it or don't but leave judgement to the only one who truly has the right and that surely is not anyone here. I wish you the best and I always enjoy your posts and the random banter everyone exerience in these forums. Too bad this one has to be about judgmental assholes instead of living our own lives and being supportive of others.
I am very sorry.
Many people are very insensitive and do not understand what it is to go through pain.
You need to heal, and if this is your way, I commend you.
Interesting that DB1980 thinks you should keep quiet, in essence, lie. And that would make you a better parent. Go figure. And her assuming that your daughter will read your hub at age 9 or 11 or 13 is to assume that her current upbringing is neglectful, and she would have unsupervised computer use. Perhaps your daughter is watching porn on cable as well?!
As far as Lissie: I read “How To” hub hubs, blog posts etc for about a month before I joined HubPages, most of it Lissie. A lot of it was over my head, but I suppose in general I learned a lot from Lissie. I was pretty surprised to read Lissie’s post. I’m not sure why I’m surprised though. Basically I know nothing about Lissie except her views on SEO, keywords and the like. And Lissie knows little about you. She has not been very active in the HubPages community, for at least the last few months that I’ve been here.
Kimberly, take a step back, and consider this. There are many, many hubbers on this thread, and who commented on your many hubs, that you have built a relationship with. DB1980, and Lissie are not among those hubbers. In this context, neither are “one of us”.
I agree with Rmcrayne! Don't allow two postings to drag you down. You've come too far to allow them to win. Choose to focus and lean on the positive supporters that you have here. Those are the ones that know you better, have been here and shared your pain, and would never intentionally try to break your awesome winning spirit. ((((HUGS))))
Many of us express our thoughts, feelings etc. I monitor our son on the Internet, he is far to young to be reading some of the things that exist. I commend you for writing about it and overcoming addictions but me personally I would not have ever placed another hubbers comment on a thread for others to see I would have e-mailed them personally and tried to iron out our indifferences, but that is just who I am and everyone is different. Stay Positive.
One last thing I read the hub and you did not do anything that another mother would not do, but please eliminate the last name and D.O.B. you never know who can hunt her down and you certainly do not want anything to happen to her. Fight for her you can do it!
The other Hubber isn't even a Hubber. Look at her stats she only joined to attack Lyrics. Not saying it would be any better coming from a reputable hubber but then I do not think any reputable hubber would do that.
There are always people who are going to disagree and like this women, try to bring you down regardless of what you overcome and the pain you are suffering.
She is bitter and knows how to push buttons. Regardless, a very heartless person---know that you have so much support and understanding on the forum.
Kimberly, I hope the support of all these caring people will offer you solace. I've wanted to offer my support, but did not know what to say.
Hugs to ya, darlin'. You're one of the best.
Lyr...hope you're doing well....we're all here for you...sending all the happiness and love someone as wonderful as you deserves! xx
Hi Lyric. I saw your Youtube account. You are very brave to be so open and vulnerable. I wish you all the very best things on your journey.
If we stop responding to comments of that troll then troll will stop for sure. So let's first stop commenting over there.
I just stopped feeding one troll today and that troll is RIP.
It is amazing that the stupidest comments are the ones that enrage us all. As she is still a young mother with little experience she had no right to write that rubbish. If she had been in your shoes and suffered the same sting as you then maybe she would be excused but clearly this woman has no heart.
Most people do not realize that social forums likes these have saved a lot of people and you being brave enough to write all that those shows you're human and also need compassion and not some idiotic nincompoop who thinks she knows the world and shez just bloody 30 years old!
Ignore her.. those of us here who care about you and wish you all the best are behind you waving our bravery flags to you. So don't let one person's stupidity ruin the love and support you recieve from here. You are a few of many people that people here appreciate so hold on to that, keep your chin up. We got you're back and just delete here comment.
I believe this woman is far off-base. My parents have had troubles in their past--drugs among them at different times in their lives--and my father is reluctant to tell me. I want to know, however, because they are two such wonderful people. They are truly ideal parents. I want to know about their pasts, understand them, know about their mistakes and how they overcame them. I feel that going from who they were to who they are makes them very strong people, love them more, and their changes set wonderful examples. I feel this relates directly to your conflict.
I'm terribly sorry you had to suffer because of a person's opinion, but everyone is entitled to one, and many have different opinions on parents. But I'm giving you my opinion as a daughter.
I actually liked her Post and was posting a reply to it. I have a mother similar to her and I know how tough it can be and know this is a touchy topic. I would just delete her negativity and post the page. I thought I was helping by posting a mother with no child and giving her a little bit of courage that no matter what you will be ok. Lyrics and my couselor inspired me to want to talk to my mother and it was a great conversation. I will be posting soon on to what we talked about. I only accept positivity as this is a touchy subject. Sorry lyrics, that it happend to you. I have been trying to reach out to you and know it takes strength to post a topic such as my daughter has no mother. Again sorry if my topic offended you in anyway. Please respond to me and if you want ill have my topic unpublished on Hubpages.
jk, why would you want to unpublish your article? you have every right to tell your story, as every person here does.
I just dont want to be caught up in a world of mess. I want her to feel good that someone cared enough and can relate to her to write a topic the opposit of what she went through. It is not totally similar ,but I know what it feels like. For some reason I feel like I should shut up..... good night and good luck... I will keep positive followers posted. I pray that her life gets a little bit better day by day.
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What part bothers you? Thats the question. Don't answer that here. Just think on it. It may be helpfull. However DO NOT allow this complete stranger to judge you as a mother let alone a human being. Don't give her that power.
What you wrote was no doubt therapy of sorts for YOU. YOU had to get to a solid place in your life before you could be anything to anyone else. If writing and posting does it for you then so be it. How a person admitting to faults and being human can be a bad lesson for children to learn is beyond me. Chin up lady!
Lyrics, I read your hub in question shortly after you published it and I also read through all the comments left here. Then I stepped back and thought about it all.
Here is my opinion, you don't need it but I thought I give you my two cents worth anyway. First off, you have to be proud of yourself for overcoming all you did. If you were not going to talk about any of the outside influences that led to this situation how could you explain why you're not in your daughters life day-in and day-out. Without the truth wouldn't there be a danger of her thinking that you just do not love her and that is why you're not with her? As far as that goes, no-one can not build a healthy relationship with anyone if it's not based on truth and honesty, especially with your children. If you're not honest how can you demand honesty from them in return. I think you're daughter is better off knowing the circumstances and if she doesn't already she will gain respect for you for not hiding or 'sweeping it under a carpet'.
I think you should leave the hub where it is, if it can help only one Mom sort out her drug dependency problems and all the emotional crap that comes with it then the hub is well worth it. I might not have put in the date of birth etc into it but then that is just me.
Chin up my dear, out of how many positive comments did you get a negative one? You will never be able to please everyone and if you try you will just drive yourself crazy. And the only thing you will get from constant second guessings is a big fat headache.
Be proud of the choices you have made to overcome... that is what counts now and tomorrow to you and your little girl.
There my sermon is done, giant sized bear hugs to you from a Mom.
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