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Extra large ads and surveys

  1. pauldeeds profile image
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    pauldeedsposted 6 years ago

    Over the course of the next few weeks we're going to be running some extra large brand advertisements on hubs, in the HubPages share of the impressions.  With these ads will come advertiser surveys that may slide in from the edge or bottom of your page.  If you'd prefer not to see these surveys, you can opt out by navigating to the safecount.net consumer options page, and clicking the Consumer Opt-Out button (you'll have to do this once for each computer and browser that you use).  If you'd rather not have these large format ads on your hubs at all, and your hubs are not commercial, you can set the ad level to medium, low, or none.

    1. LeslieAdrienne profile image81
      LeslieAdrienneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you.....

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      cashgoldposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you for the ADS..

    3. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago

      Thank you PaulDeeds. smile

    4. Urbane Chaos profile image90
      Urbane Chaosposted 6 years ago

      Thanks for the heads up..

    5. wrenfrost56 profile image82
      wrenfrost56posted 6 years ago

      Thanks V much for keeping us informed.

    6. AEvans profile image71
      AEvansposted 6 years ago

      Thank you for informing us. smile

    7. RedElf profile image87
      RedElfposted 6 years ago

      Thanks, Paul. It will be interesting to see what they look like.

      1. pauldeeds profile image
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        pauldeedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You should be able to see them in there full glory on this hub.  You may need to signout first.

        1. Urbane Chaos profile image90
          Urbane Chaosposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Paul.. if I can comment here..

          Personally, I love the larger ads, especially the flash based ads.  On most sites that I've visited they are unobtrusive, but at the same time they offer valuable content to the person browsing the page.  In your hub, the ad seems to blend nicely with the rest of the page - and that was one of my biggest concerns.

          With that in mind, the main reason why I joined HubPages was because of the simplicity of design.  I can write an article, post it, and readers can enjoy the article without a lot of the nonsense that other sites have.  As long as the ads remain unobtrusive, and can still offer a good ROI, I think it's an excellent idea.  However, thinking mainly of the flash based "pop up" advertisements, I would be a little leary of using such advertising methods. 

          I'm sure that it has both its pro's and con's, but only time will tell if it's going to be a viable alternative to other marketing avenues.

    8. Sage Williams profile image89
      Sage Williamsposted 6 years ago

      Thanks, Paul for keeping us up to date.

    9. livewithrichard profile image84
      livewithrichardposted 6 years ago

      Thanks, are our visitors going to be subjected to these "slide in" surveys? Also, if they choose to participate in the survey will they navigate away from our hubs through them?

      1. pauldeeds profile image
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        pauldeedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, visitors to your hub that haven't opted out may be prompted to take a survey.  The surveys only appear on a fraction of the impressions.  I believe the survey happens in an overlay, and they will be returned to viewing your hub if they complete or abandon the survey.

        1. G Miah profile image81
          G Miahposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Hmm, very interesting. To opt out or not to opt out, that ia the question.

          Hmm...

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          Justine76posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Good thing there is an opt out smile...If there was no cance to  opt out, I wouldn't be able to read hubs with the ads, as my computer shuts down when it encounters flash or overlays or pop ups. I wonder how many other people have this problem and might not read hubs after the first time their computer freeezes?

    10. Mrvoodoo profile image59
      Mrvoodooposted 6 years ago

      This sounds incredibly spammy, like pop-ups in disguise.

      But maybe it's not going to be as bad as this sounds in my head, and my opinion certainly isn't going to change matters either way, and I appreciate that the bills need to be paid.

      Could be worse, I could have irrelevant ads for whitening yellow teeth, and how to get a flat stomach all over my hubs. wink

    11. Misha profile image74
      Mishaposted 6 years ago

      Thanks for letting us know so it does not get us by surprise smile

    12. wsp2469 profile image59
      wsp2469posted 6 years ago

      Hey!  I'm impressed!  (I'm not being Captain Sarcasm either!)  I am surprised that HP is allowing us some control over this!  Thanks!
      mind you, I probably will be too busy to adjust any of the settings but it's truly nice to know I CAN if I take the time to do so!

    13. flread45 profile image81
      flread45posted 6 years ago

      It is sooo big it scared me.smile

      1. wsp2469 profile image59
        wsp2469posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I've had dates who have said the exact same thing!

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          B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          hahahahahaha

          the ads and surveys do not bother me, but thank you for letting me know!  smile

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      shinujohn2008posted 6 years ago

      thanks for the info

      1. BL Tween profile image59
        BL Tweenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I thought it was pretty good, at least people will know its an ad, some of them are so small they don't catch the readers interest. Thanks.

    15. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago

      I assume they will not be of any benefit to the hubbers themselves,am I wrong?

      1. Marisa Wright profile image93
        Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Randy, when HubPages is testing a new ad, they do it in their share of impressions - so we don't lose out if it turns out to be a dog.  If it works out, they'll then make it common to all.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image93
          Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          This is good news, thanks Marisa!  I still dislike this quote thing though!

    16. Dame Scribe profile image60
      Dame Scribeposted 6 years ago

      Good Q, Randy smile can we split on the BIG ads? tongue 2 for you and 2 for me? big_smile tongue if that makes any sense lol lol

      1. Urbane Chaos profile image90
        Urbane Chaosposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        HP can have the big ads... I was thinking that they should leave all the google ads for us! big_smile wink

    17. theirishobserver. profile image60
      theirishobserver.posted 6 years ago

      I would actually welcome better style ads on my hubs...most of what I am getting are small text only ads and they look very amaturish...... smile

    18. webismine profile image60
      webismineposted 6 years ago

      Good to know early smile

    19. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago

      Hmmm.  Won't these ads detract from the small ones we make money on?

    20. habee profile image90
      habeeposted 6 years ago

      I was wondering the same thing, Randy.

      1. Sally's Trove profile image97
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Me too.

    21. sarovai profile image61
      sarovaiposted 6 years ago

      Thank u Paul.

    22. rebekahELLE profile image92
      rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago

      habee, the ads only appear when it's HP's turn if I understand.

    23. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago

      So, they won't appear during "our turn"?

      1. blue dog profile image79
        blue dogposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        silly, randy.  that would mean increased revenue for us.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image93
          Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Doh, what was I thinkin'!

          1. blue dog profile image79
            blue dogposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            there's a new theory that small ads out-perform large ads.

            1. Randy Godwin profile image93
              Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Ah, the old "size doesn't make a difference" test, huh?  How ya doin' Blue Dog?

              1. blue dog profile image79
                blue dogposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                doing good, randy.  just hurt my head by falling off the turnip truck.  imagine, large ads not performing as well as small ads.

                1. Randy Godwin profile image93
                  Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I know what you mean,Blue Dog.  That's what happens when you're riding on the turnip truck and not drivin'!

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      JeanMeriamposted 6 years ago

      Will the larger ads be running during our impression times eventually? They do get a lot more attention.

    25. nanospeck profile image73
      nanospeckposted 6 years ago

      Hope it doesn't drive away my outerworld fans!wink tongue

    26. Peter Hoggan profile image85
      Peter Hogganposted 6 years ago

      I have a question, are these ads contextual and will they only show on related hubs?

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        JeanMeriamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I have a hub that is about tantrums in toddlers. The large ad was Jesus is the Difference.:-) Contextual... I don’t know

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          Justine76posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lol lol lol Of course it is...

    27. Dao Hoa profile image60
      Dao Hoaposted 6 years ago

      Thank you for the heads up Paul.

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      Ghost32posted 6 years ago

      Thanks, Paul.  Don't imagine I'll be opting out of anything, but (as has already been stated) it's nice not to get any surprises.

      Well, I like SOME surprises....lol

    29. Jane@CM profile image61
      Jane@CMposted 6 years ago

      I was just reading a hub by Tobey (I think) and this large ad crossed over the page and interrupted my reading! Can't tell you what the ad was for, but it was annoying!

      1. Sally's Trove profile image97
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        More than annoying.

        I've been contributing here for two years and will continue to.  But if my first experience of this site had been watching these "big ads" roll over a topic of interest to me that I found through an Internet search, I'd be out of this site forever.

        Tasteless, but worse, it just makes HP like any other site looking for bucks. It makes it all about money and dilutes the value of what goes on here...what has gone on here.

        It interferes with the reader's focus.

        So, do you want to encourage meaningful content (content which is valued on the net), or do you just want to rake in bucks?  There's a balance here that I think you need to assess. Like, is this a site for writers, or a site to generate the bucks? Balance.

        1. Mrvoodoo profile image59
          Mrvoodooposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          or do you just want to rake in bucks?

          I think the answer to that is now obvious.

          I first joined HP because it seemed like a quality site, now not so much (sorry HP crew but it's true).  It's like two sites in one now, hubs generally look pretty good in the hubbers share of impressions, but if you are unlucky enough to log in during HP's share it's a different story.  Yellow Teeth, PAYDAY Loans, completely unrelated ads of every description, and now forced surveys.

          Whilst we may not lose out directly on money because these are in the HP share of impressions, we are most likely missing out on links, tweets, etc.  that may have occurred from impressed visitors if only our content hadn't been presented so terribly.

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            Justine76posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            we will loose readers. If I came to HP and a big floaty ad showed up, Id leave and never look back. A big reason this is the only site I joined is the lack of apps and surveys and all that facebook teenager shiny stuff

            1. Sally's Trove profile image97
              Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Amen.

    30. skyfire profile image72
      skyfireposted 6 years ago

      I have ad-block plus enabled so i can't see those ads. And even after disabling it i unable to see the big ad. Any specific hub where i can see that ? I know 300x250 ad in sidebar but other than that is there any ad ?

    31. Internetwriter62 profile image84
      Internetwriter62posted 6 years ago

      Sounds fantastic, Pauldeeds. I think larger ads will mean more clicks to and I we all want click. Great idea, I'm all for what makes hubs a better marketing vehicle. Thank you and great idea.

    32. Research Analyst profile image78
      Research Analystposted 6 years ago

      Cool, Thanks!

    33. lovelypaper profile image68
      lovelypaperposted 6 years ago

      Nice to know. Thanks.

    34. Sally's Trove profile image97
      Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago

      After a bit of time has passed since the introduction of the floating survey, I wonder if there are stats to share?

      I wonder after perhaps 100,000 floating surveys, how many got clicked? What data did you gather? Were the dollars earned good enough to continue with the program...

      Curious.

    35. MyWebs profile image83
      MyWebsposted 6 years ago

      I just got one of them float in from the side survey ads. I clicked on it and took it. It was about car rentals.

      I'm not sure if I like this or not. Those survey ads are very disruptive, but at least they do return you back where you started.

      Hmmm....If they make me more money, maybe. But I'm afraid I could see many users running away when they get one too.

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      Justine76posted 6 years ago

      Ive opted out several times now...and I stil am seeing them?

      1. skyfire profile image72
        skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        If you're using Firefox browser then install "Ad-block plus" add-on and you'll never see ads on any site including HP.

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          Justine76posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Internet explorer. I guess its not really a huge deal, I can just click the back button..but if I am reading something, I dont like to be zooped off to some survey about deoderant.

          1. skyfire profile image72
            skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You can disable ads from Internet explorer. Check this URL:

            vista4beginners.com/AdBlock-Plus-Filters-Internet-Explorer-8

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              Justine76posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              thanks!!!!  wink

        2. Glenn Stok profile image98
          Glenn Stokposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Ad-blockers and disabling pop-ups will only help us avoid these intrusive things. The problem still remains that our loyal readers, who could be anyone, will be frightened away.

    37. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago

      I abhor the floating surveys!  Personally, I would never return to a site with these things flitting around.  I certainly hope this isn't a permanent thing here. 

      It's actually a bit embarrassing to me when friends or relatives try to read my hubs and encounter these things.  A bit of overkill it seems.  A used car dealership for articles, colored flags waving on a rope.  (Too harsh?)

      Just my opinion, though!

    38. Glenn Stok profile image98
      Glenn Stokposted 6 years ago

      I'd like to add my opinion on these huge ads.  The first time I saw it I became afraid that I would lose readers. Whenever I see something like that fly across my screen on any site, I click away from the entire thing, never to return. It gets in the way of what the reader is trying to read. It takes the readers mind off the main reason why they are there to begin with and they lose their train of thought, which leads to frustration. We don't want to frustrate our readers. That's not a good thing.

    39. sunforged profile image64
      sunforgedposted 6 years ago

      they suck! they dont detract from my earnings since they dont appear on my impression share and my traffic comes from search...but for every visitor who associates those crap fly away ads to the domain "hubpages" ..thats one more visitor that will skim to the next title when they look at their search results and it says hubpages


      boo! terrible idea

    40. Sally's Trove profile image97
      Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago

      My question is still out there and unanswered. 

      Is HP getting any worthwhile dollars out of large ads and parading surveys?

      Since I'm not a partner in HP, and HP is a private company, they don't have to answer my question. But still, it's an interesting question, because those large ads and surveys commercialize this site to enough of a degree that those who land here from a search looking for info will find this parading survey link, maybe click it, get distracted, and not come back again, because this is just the kind of commercialism they are not looking for when they are looking for information.

      shetoldme.com is an interesting case in point about this. Theirs is a good idea, because you can condense any info on the Internet, including your own, and so this site could serve as a digest or index of information. Plus, contributors can get a backlink. But that site is so infiltrated with ads that it is hard to see the information.

      I really hope HP doesn't go down that path.

      Does HP have a 5-year plan? A 10-year plan?

    41. katiem2 profile image60
      katiem2posted 6 years ago

      Thanks Paul,
      I appreciate the heads up and guidance as to how to opt out.  Peace smile

     
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