Is this ok to do?

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   sandra rinckposted 16 years ago

   Dear Hub pages.
   I want to do a hub that consist of the American constitution.  It's a lot of stuff and mostly cut and paste, but not a lot of my own opinion because I think it should be read exactly the way it is.   Is this ok to do?
   
   Sandra rinck

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   JPPI-Stuartposted 16 years ago

   The US Constitution is a wonderful document.  It also exists in multiple forms on the Web already.  I assume you'd get a duplicate content penalty.

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   sandra rinckposted 16 years ago

   That is what I think they will say too, but I am hoping they wont. Maybe I will just start a forum.

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   embitcaposted 16 years ago

   There are thousands of copies of the US Constitution online, so it isn't even remotely useful to create yet another duplicate of it. Why not do a hub about the American Constitution and simply link to one of the sources that's already published (the one at archives.gov is a particularly nice official version), and write some of your own commentary in the hub and link out to other people's discussions/commentary about it, or to interesting facts about it, or to similiar documents in other countries. It would be so much more interesting that copy & paste.

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      sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      True, I was looking at the ones online, and not a lot of them are too great,so I am glad you gave me a link to a good one.  I wanted to stay away from commentary because of another hub I did on Oil, which consequently people are taking for fighting words instead of justice. 
      
      I will probabaly have to go that route.  Thanks.
      
      sandra

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         embitcaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Well, hopefully the US Constitution will be a less controversial subject than Oil.
         
         You could always remove the comments box if it gets too much to deal with.

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            sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            I could only hope LOL!

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   Dorsiposted 16 years ago

   Yes that would be great to do a hub with commentaries and links to the constitution- you could do it as a series even!
   I read something the other day from the constitution and it really made me stop and take notice of how it related to today.

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      sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      What was it, if you don't mind sharing.  I started another forum under the politics to discuss the Constitution.

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   Just for comparison
   
   http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/rus … tml#chap10

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      sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I stopped in for a quick read, sounds a lot or better than our government, so what happened?

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         embitcaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Lenin. Stalin. Take your pick.

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   Well, some scholars argue it was the most advanced constitution in its time
   
   I guess I wanted to show that paper, no matter how good it is, and real life are two altogether different animals... and that relying on paper may be not the best choice for survival...

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      Hovalisposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I agree wholeheartedly, Misha. The propaganda around a piece of paper, such as the constitution, can overshadow the meaning of the words themselves if people believe what the politicians are saying. It's sad to say, but very, very few people will question what they are taught and just accept it as the truth. But, then again, questioning is often discouraged in our society.

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   This is Stalin. Lenin died in 1924

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   embitcaposted 16 years ago

   Sorry, Misha, I didn't check the date

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    sandra rinckposted 16 years ago

    Since you live in America Misha...when this nation falls too, then where will you go?  Australia, so that when thier system needs you to defend it, you can say the same thing and then move on and then again?  Look around, what country is still free?

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       embitcaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Do you think he needs to defend Stalin?

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          Mishaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          LOL, this is just a continuation of our arguments with Sandy from here: http://hubpages.com/hub/The-little-guy- … wn-big-oil

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             sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             hey I prefere the term debate.  LOL. 

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       Mishaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Sandy,
       I have no doubt this nation will survive There are difficult times ahead, I'm pretty sure in this, but this does not mean the country will vanish. Are we talking about different things here? Not sure what you mean by "this country will fall, too". Which country fell already?
       
       I see what you mean in general - no, I am not a patriot of any country. I do not think I owe anything to the country I currently leave in. I pay taxes when required, and I try to help people around me as much as I can. And no, I think America is not a free country and never been, neither Australia.
       
       LOL, you reminded me of my farther - he always criticizes me for not being a patriot

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          sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          By fall I mean that our government will turn into a communist country, and void us of our civil liberties.  I don't care that a person is patriotic, only that you do your part, and if you are, then I don't have any dispute.  But I think that showing some support in a message to be inspiring people to do the same is suffecient. 
          
          With all niave honesty, publicly voicing that, you neither care nor support the people around you or to say, it wont work, only enforces or discourages others from the hope that they can are are allowed to do something. 
          
          If a person is continually told, you can't, the believe they can't.  Tell them they can, and show support, then they will feel more empowered to move forward unafraid.  America is breeding a bunch of chickens. LOL. 
          
          Also by free country, I mean I don't want somone maybe our future president or whomever to come and take away our right to congregate and associate, or enter our homes without warrent, strip us of our rights to protect ourselves, taxation without representation (seems already evident).
          
          Our government is already infringing on our civil rights, they spy on us everywhere we go, they accuse people unjustly, they declare wars without justification.
          
          This war in Iraq.  Was never a war.  It was never officially declared and it is illeagle.  In the event that it is declared, our government reserves the right to issue a draft.  If that happens, we are all in for a rude awakening. 
          
          There is so much crap going on in the world, I know my plan is not going to magically make it happen.  It's a small suggestion, to help a big cause.  Everyone has a cause.

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    darksideposted 16 years ago

    How big was this hub going to be?
    
    If the content of the Constitution was only a small part of the hub, then it may not matter.
    
    The issue would be duplicity, not plagiarism or copyright infringement.
    
    If the quantity and indeed the quality of the rest of the hub is vast, it may be eligible for an exemption.
    
    
    
    I'm not saying it definitely will, but it's something to think about. If there is a slight HubScore penalty it might be rectified by the amount of traffic it could get for ranking highly in terms of search engine traffic.
    
    After all, in the grand scheme of things, quality traffic is a lot more meaningful than Hubscore.
    
    Otherwise, you could always use an image of the Constitution to get your point across.

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       sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       I will keep that in mind, thanks.  Hubscore doesn't really matter,  I just don't want to put all my effort into it and then have it disapear.  I will work around the matter.
       Thanks for the advise. 
       sandra

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    Mishaposted 16 years ago

    It could be a dialog or discussion or anything else - sorry for my poor choice of words
    
    Now, here goes one of the wisest prayers I've ever heard:
    
    My whole life experience tells me what you are trying to change cannot be changed. I strongly believe you cannot stop or delay the oncoming global depression. Much like you cannot stop sunrise or sunset. Like you cannot stop the ocean tide or Earth movement.
    I believe me telling you you can would be a lie. And I don't like telling lies.

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    Bonnie Ramseyposted 16 years ago

    Sandy,
    
    I also saw a post by HP about duplicate talking about one of the exceptions to the duplicate being historical events, which this would be. I am doing hubs on the history of the Cherokee and of course, this is all over the internet. I paraphrase as much as I possibly can without changing any of the historical details and do the hub. One of them has been featured in the education and I have had excellent feedback, along with fairly good hub scores. Just thought I would let you know that the worst thing that will happen is the score may not be as high on it as something different. Like you, I didn't care about the score on those. It was more about the purpose of writing them that mattered. I wish you all the best! Looking forward to reading it!
    
    Bonnie

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