Ever noticed how prevalent # of hubs = # of fans???

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   DJ Funktualposted 16 years ago

   About DJ Funktual
   Status:    Expert
   From:    Fort Ladi Dadi, FL
   HubScore:    96
   Published Hubs:    80
   Joined:    4 months ago
   - 77 fans.
   
   I noticed it when I went around hub-world one day.  Any reason for it?

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   Inspirepubposted 16 years ago

   Except for Misha, of course, with his six Hubs and hundreds of fans ....
   
   Jenny

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   Cause I'm just a cool guy probably
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   Sometimes

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      SunSevenposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Indeed, Misha!

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   G-Ma Johnsonposted 16 years ago

   I don't know  I have 107 fans and have done a87 hubs. DJ...Hi Misha..and yes you are cool  G-Ma ) hugs

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   G-Ma Johnsonposted 16 years ago

   oops 190 hubs

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   LOL Thanks guys
   
   Well, if seriously, I think that among other factors the number of fans depends on your visibility, like how often you post on forums.
   
   I think G-Ma being way cooler than myself and having only 7 forum posts is a good example to illustrate the point

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   relacheposted 16 years ago

   I don't think the number of hubs equates to the number of fans at all.  Two months ago, I posted about having hit the 200 fan milestone.  I had 80 hubs at the time. Since then I've published 14 more hubs, and gained 109 more fans.
   
   14 does not equal 109, at least not in my math reality. 
   
   I think people who answer questions helpfully in the forums and who comment on people's hubs have more fans than the people who don't, regardless of how many Hubs they've made.

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      Stacie Naczelnikposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I think the kind of fans you have depends on the kind of content you provide.
      
      You can have a ton of fans because you post a lot on the forums, but are these fans the kind who are clicking your ads or passing your links around?
      
      Or, you can be like relache, who only seems to publish quality content, and have a lot more fans than hubs.

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         DJ Funktualposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks relache, my queen of unbridled advice.  Stacie too.   I learn so much from you all.
         
         Hmmmm  I really thought the video contests (admittedly fun trivia fluff - a break for the reading eyes) would attract more attention to the Hubs I care about - my lists that I slaved over spanning from Howlin' Wolf  to Black Crowes and released when I first arrived.   
         
         It works but like Stacie seems to be suggesting.  A person who puts something everyday just ends up overflowing your inbox (wink wink) and you don't want to necessarily want to read the same person everyday. 
         
         If relache's hubs are rare and well done she can impact with her words more deeply and when you see her in the inbox you get that much more excited.  Lots of good stuff to ponder as usual friends.
         
         I like doing the videos but it is a burden to keep up with. 
         
         I have been placed in the Top 5 commenters I think 2 out of 3 reports so far.  That is also from reacting to people on my own hub.
         
         My new question is..is it tacky to comment on your own hubs?
         I love a good forum style convo on my hubs.  curious as 2 what u think?
         
         Marisa thankx 4 your wisdom in this regard.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            If you're responding to a comment someone else has made, then it's fine and I think we all do that.
            
            But as I said, your main focus shouldn't be on us fellow Hubbers.  You don't earn revenue on page views, you earn revenues from Adsense, Amazon and eBay.  You want readers who come to your Hub looking for information or wanting a product, not just reading your Hub because you're part of the family. 
            
            I'm far from being an expert but I'd suggest you do some research on SEO and internet marketing to work out how to get your Hubs noticed outside our community.

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            relacheposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            I know what you mean.  I like my movie preview Hub, but the updating can be burdensome. 
            
            The bulk of what I write is with the idea that it's "long-tail."  Not too specifically seasonal, not too broad a focus, appealing to beginners and experienced, on topics which I'm genuinely interested in myself... all of which add up pretty well to content that's "evergreen." 
            
            If I can create Hubs that stay fresh and useful without much upkeep from me, I find they tend to draw traffic more steadily without much effort on my part and are more profitable in the long run.  And that allows me to take off and travel for a few weeks at a time (which I'll be doing at the end of this month) or it just leaves me with more time to create more Hubs.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 16 years ago

   I think there's more of a correlation between number of fans and length of time on HubPages.  If you're contributing articles regularly, I could see that your fan base might grow roughly in line with your Hubs.  Personally, I'm not contributing as much recently and my number of fans is outpacing my number of Hubs more and more - currently 55 Hubs and 188 fans.
   
   However as Stacie says, while having fans is very flattering, they're not likely to be clicking on your ads, so it's far more important to worry about improving your search engine traffic than increasing your fan club.

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   DJ Funktualposted 16 years ago

   Marisa & Relache - After your last posts I'm finding that perhaps I have been storming a windmill here.  people have suggested many times that I should get on digg, etc but I often feel like uh more work than this.  Pretending words like "Evergreen" & "Long-Tail" don't exist is not the way to go clearly.
   
   My thesis on why my stuff was so evergreen was that billions of people are DLing songs off the internet but can't remember want they wants they get to the store.  In comes my 250 Greatest New Wave Songs, Hair Bands, Reggae, etc.  I just figured they'd be useful reference material for DJs and iPod fillers everywhere but you're right...nobody knows you're here except your friends and the community here.
   
   Hmm lots to ponder here.  Chanks

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    relacheposted 16 years ago

    DJ, I do very, very little in the way of adding my stuff to social bookmarking sites.  That's not how they're supposed to work anyway.  It's supposed to be readers who add them, not the authors. 
    
    And it does work.... my Fairy Wings lens had 1200 visitors in one day from Stumbleupon just a few weeks back.  I have no idea who Stumbled it, but it rocked.  To me, my time is best spent writing the content that makes people react to a Hub that way, not sneaking around some site, trying not to get kicked off for self-promotion.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Nice to hear you say that, relache.  That's how I feel too.  It's good to know I don't HAVE to do it.  Now all I have to do is learn how to write content that's as effective as yours! 
       
       DJ, another tactic is to join forums on relevant topics so you can post answers including links to relevant Hubs.  Just be sure you give yourself time to get to know people first, and make sure you participate as a useful member, before you start posting links.

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    Lissieposted 16 years ago

    I agree  Idon't promot my  own stuff on social bookmarking - its against their TOS anyway - sometimes someone will do it for me anyway - but although my traffic goes up it rarely equates to more cash - they are even worse for paying than your fans! I used to think the fans were just an ego boost because classically people who find you within a site don't buy from you - but I think because HP emails the link of your latest masterpiece around you get a) more comments and b) more likely to be emailed onto a 3rd party who may well be a qualified buyer in the marketing jargon!

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    Rik Ravadoposted 16 years ago

    I recently hit the 100 fan mark with 18 hubs.  On producing the 19th hub my fans dropped to 99!
    
    I think this is probably due to Maddie and her purge against spammers - unfortunately some of my fans are spammers.  Some people sign up, become the fans of anyone with a highish Hub score then start spamming.
    
    I've also seem my affiliate hubs decline in number - more spammers being purged?
    
    Let me finish by saying I fully support Maddie and her fine work cleaning up HubPages.  We all want real fans not those out for a quick buck!

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       robie2posted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Well, I'm your fan because I like your offbeat mind, good writing and great sense of humor--just hought I'd mention it

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    Rik Ravadoposted 16 years ago

    Robie
    
    I would happily join your fan club for that flattery but I am already a member !!

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       robie2posted 16 years agoin reply to this

       no flattery--just my not so humble opinion

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          DJ Funktualposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          Humble opinions are so boring anyway.

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             robie2posted 16 years agoin reply to this

             Right you are DJ--and there are far too many of them LOL

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    DJ Funktualposted 16 years ago

    I wanna thank you all for you're help in this matter.  I was really convinced that all my work was coming out at optimum quality.
    
    Now that I have rethought my approach I find I'm spending much less time on TOP 5 Video  lists and more on tweaking the sub-par hubs of the past.
    
    My favorite new hobby is to hit a hub I haven't seen in a while and go "Look at you! You're a frickin mess!  Less see what needs doing.....
    
    Thank You sincerely to
    
    ROBIE2, MISHA, MARISA, WHITNEY, MADDIE, STACIE, RELACHE, JENNY, MARK, DARKSIDE, MRDEEDS, and everyone else who take their time to help the whole place grow!
    
    Your never-humble DJ,
    Jamie

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       robie2posted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Awwwww  DJ-- I'm  on a big learning curve here myself--old dog new tricks department, dontchaknow.In fact I just downloaded the PDF MIsha recommended  and will be going over my hubs yet again to try and figure out how to get more SE traffic. I thank you for making me--if not hip--at least not totally over the hill with those great contests of yours
       
       <blows kiss>
       
       R2

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    DJ Funktualposted 16 years ago

    DJ Funktual
    From:    Fort Ladi Dadi, FL
    Score:    95
    Fans:    89
    Hubs:    89
    Joined:    4 months ago
    
    I still say there's something to this.  I see it in hubbers all over.

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