so yeah, and what I'm also saying is that, even though you will find them hardput to admit it, there are those who use their one and only (or so they say) to harm as well. Its the "harm" part that is the real bugaboo here. I really have a lot of fun and hope I never really harm anyone - but if it seems like I ever do I expect someone will tell me right away.
There is this other thing - and I am guilty of it, too - and I call it "thread hogging" which is hijacking and just dumping alot of useless nonsense in an otherwise respectable (ible?) discussion - you know? so that is why I hang out mainly in the tribe or hijack this thread threads where I cannot be confused with stinky socks or ugly trolls! yes, yes, sister, I am good underneath it all I say - GOOD!
mega1, I'm glad your going to redefine the term "sockpuppets" which I, as a fairly new hubber, had no idea what that meant. But I do like your new define as I have learned right away, too many games, too many stalker's, too much harrassment, one hubber using too many profile's for the sole purpose of attacking other hubber's, and, making fun of the non fiction stories other hubber's post in order to draw attention away from that story, in hopes of bringing down the score of another hubber's good story! I have one profile which I use, this one, and only this one! However, my husband and 4 other friends use my computer on the net. I have no need for other profiles on the hubs. However, I respect those who do and only use them to write good hubs and want to make money off the Hubpages website. I remember when I first wrote some of my first stories. A short woman, who had a very tall husband, had the nerve of sending comments to one of my personal non fiction hub stories. In her comment's she insisted that I could not tell (my) story the way I presented it. Then, she sent me email's again telling me, I had to present my true story (her way) I don't care if your the (King of England) I don't care how high you managed to get your hub profile score up, nobody has the right to tell another hubber they must write their personal story and change the facts just so it sounds better to them. I had to send her an email after receiving her rude emails. I said, these are my true stories, I will write them the way I choose. Please leave me alone and stop sending me email's, or I will have to call the police in my town. After that, the email's stopped. Thank God, I thought. Peace!
From the threads I have been reading the answer to that question is yes. There apparently has been some deceit with some hubbers having multi-accounts on the forums but I believe if ignored life becomes so much better. A person should not feed the fire, the flames could burn you.
# Multiple Accounts: While we don’t prohibit having more than one HubPages account, we ask that you stick to a single persona in the forums. The deceptive use of multiple accounts, especially in a single thread is prohibited. The use of secondary accounts to circumvent a forum ban is also prohibited. This type of behaviour is also known as ’sockpuppeting’.
I think the term sock puppet is like a alter ego that some Hubber's use to fool others or be mean while not admitting who they really are. I do not think the term applies to second accounts used for alternate writing styles or marketing Hubs.
Its tough. I remember when my eldest was 2 and a naughty word came out. It was so innocent and adorable at the same time as being shocking, I honestly wanted to laugh. We learned to be more careful after that (we thought we WERE being careful... but tiny ears have long ranges.)
Ok folks... back to your regularly scheduled programming... sorry for the hijack.
hmm, they get a lot of undeserved attention. there is a difference between a hubber having an alter ego or multiple accounts to publish hubs and they don't lie about who they are on their profile. they simply have more than one account like nelle, darkside, dale, people who are publishing and using the site for its purpose. sorry, I just think it's wrong for people to fabricate accounts portraying themselves to be something, someone they are not, saying they are musicians or undercover cop, etc... maybe they should have their own forum. they can talk to each other freely.
After I got set straight by a few folks and deciphered what I think they are all saying I came up with the following which updates the earlier definition I had:
Sockpuppet - one who is banned from the forums for harrassment or extreme manipulative behavior and/or harmful actions and RETURNS as an alternative identity in order to deceive and continue their bad behaviors.
Troll - one who uses any identity (their own, or an alter-ego) in the forums and/or in the hub comments in order to manipulate, harrass, stalk, slander, shill for a scam, or otherwise malign other hubbers.
Here is my take on this entire situation of course after my first cup of coffee. lololo
Now that everyone understands what a sock-puppet is we need to let this entire discussion die. Many are and have been heart being accused of things they were not, there have been examples of the pain suffered on other threads. We are not children we are adults, what makes our community different is that we have actually spoke to some of these people on the phone,met them in person, or shared our lives through e-mails. I don't know of any other writing sites where people ban together when someone gets hurt, loses a loved one,or just needs advice or someone to talk to.
All of us need to think before we comment and ask ourselves how it feels when we feel attacked. If something bothers us ignore it, I know it can be hard to do I have lashed out on occassion to, but when it gets tough walk-away from the computer it is only a virtual world.
We need to end the discussion about this subject and focus on hopping, commenting and do what all of us love to do best and that is write.
[rant] As long as I have been a member at HubPages I've gotten kick out of hubbers in the forums with alter egos.
This is a community of writers. If we were all mathematicians the forums would be so frickin' boring you could near the crickets chirping.
People use sock puppets because they don't have the nerve to say something without being under cover, or because they get a kick out of causing drama. I've known several alter egos who were only here to play, not to cause mischief - and I don't have any kind of problem with that. It was fun.
Notice I put that in past tense. All this damn saga drama garbage has driven away many of my buddies and that BUMS me out. I've had it with the "I'm leaving, no please don't go" forums and "Name all your favorite friends" and "Hey everybody, look at what we are e-mailing to each other when we're not in the forums" stuff.
I'm not defending hubbers who use their socks for evil, but page after page of personal drama is just as irritating. I don't give a damn about it and I'm perfectly capable of not reading what I don't want to read. The problem is that when I pop in to kill some time and have some fun, the folks I'm looking for are MIA.
I know people here have been hurt and they deserve to speak up. It's just a shame that the childishness has caused so many to lose interest in the forums altogether. All the gossip bs and drama is too much. It feels like high school all over except I don't have to find a grown up to buy my cigarettes for me.
I should have used my alter ego to post this maybe, because my "sock puppet" is way too polite to say
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