Forum troll: one who posts inflammatory, off-topic, totally irrelevant or purposely out of context remarks with the primary intent to provoke others or otherwise bait people into highly emotional responses and to significantly disrupt or impair discussions.
Or at least that's what "troll" has come to mean in the last decade or so - but an earlier form of "troll" was not quite so negative... ie: the owners/creator of Snopes .com (the urban folklore site ) "trolled" in forums, picking up urban legends and tidbits and later created a site based on many stories gleaned from "trolling." David Mikkelson, prior to creation of the Snopes (created 1995) site, was involved in the AFU (alt/folklore/urban) newsgroup online at the time he was trolling.
Shortly after creation of Snopes, the alt folklore urban legend site was hit very hard with other, more detrimental types of "trollers" - ones who consider forums part of a virtual world they're playing a game in - and who fit the first description of "troll" posted earliest in this response - and participants who aren't concerned about the well-being of others. AFU was hit so hard with multiple user accounts, postings and activity that the act of trolling became very frowned upon.
Also, an earlier meaning of the term has been considered a positive contribution in forums whereby a beneficial type of troller posts topics intended to garner positive reaction and identify those members of a site/forum who are like-minded in a positive way and who are 'insiders' to what's going on in a forum or specific site - more the type of trolling done by Mikkelson - who used the name "Snopes" as a handle in the AFU newsgroup.
There are explanations of troll and trolling on wikipedia, snopes, AFU and several articles elsewhere online. The "behavior" and "effects" have also been studied quite a lot. If you search for Susan Herring (topics concerning safety, females and safety in forums) you're sure to find a good article - or search on Judith Donath, who has studied on usenet groups, and something interesting should be returned in search results. Both these authors/researchers are actually listed in the Wikipedia article on the troll topic.
So our trolls are actually the dark side of the beneficial troll! virtual good and evil WOW.
There is a thread somewhere about cloned human beings - would they have a soul, do religious trolls have a soul, or does each face of the owner share a fragment of the whole personality soul?
Thanks for the history of trolls, very enlightening.
I have noticed with ours that when they feel under peer pressure in the threads (effectively getting their own medicine but from a group of real(ish) characters) - or when they are being talked about - they become almost nice and join in random discussions, especially I like the occasional little apology
Yes he/they is/are, along with a few other avatars which are also him/her - you could also be one of his clones for all anyone knows. It is bad form in polite discussion to out someone don't yer know, for one you can be wrong also there is always the possibility of redemption and maybe one day the trolls will stop playing this like a mindless computer game of sad laughs and actually think or learn something.
And a troll is not a thinking person with an opinion - it is someone playing games for their own mindless ends.
Thank you for clearing that up for me. I can't argue with the possibility of redemption. What about the people like me that might be clones of a troll, but would like to improve their communication habits. How can you improve without honest criticism?
If you ever forget... just click the little blue "Formatting Tips" at the bottom right of your reply box (where you are actually typing your reply.) The appropriate formatting for including images is there.
If you go to something like photobucket.com and search for a picture you'll see there are codes. You'll also see which code you would need to paste in here (since it's a forum). You copy the code for a forum, and paste into your post.
There's one thing you need to do, though, and that's to change the lower case "img" at the beginning and end of the code to upper case "IMG"
But you are not trolling are you - you have posted witty interesting comments and as far as I know you are not following anyone just to post irritating one liners after every post they make - are you ?
I've been a video gamer for the past couple decades, and that is usually where you find a rather large portion of forum trolls. You can't really stop a forum troll, because the person doing the trolling feels protected because of being anonymous, protected by being 1,000 miles away from people.
It's sort of like those people in cars that are filled with road rage, they yell and swear at people, honk their horns, etc. Yet, when they are out of the car they change who they are.
If you live near the ocean and you're out there on a boat you might be "trolling" or fishing with lines. I think that is more descriptive of the trolls - at least here on HubPages - they are "fishing" for pithy and witty comments with posts such as this one right chere!
So, no, I don't hate trolls - without them these forums would be a sleepy, sludgy place - like about 80% of the time - and I live for that 10% when people are thoughtful and witty - the other 10% the place is totally dead.
We need trolls possibly more than they need us.
Long live the trolls! (especially when they're not too hairy!)
and as for "troll rights" - we don't have to GIVE them rights - they will just TAKE them! not to worry about trolls - worry about the clouds of ash and the prevalence of earthquakes and tornadoes and cyclones and hurricanes - worry about drought and destruction of barrier reef - worry about jobs and big employers going elsewhere or out of business - worry about healthcare - worry about taxes - worry about youe teenagers and your grandchildren and what kind of world are we making for them? and worry about that annoying growth on the side of your neck - worry about whether your hubby will come home on time tonight instead of 4 hours late reeking of someone elses perfume and cheap liquor - worry about the price of eggs, milk, veggies - worry about global warming for pete's sake - BUT DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE DAMN TROLLS! and have a good goddamn day!
Oh I see, when all else fails, then we can all rest easy cause the world has one last scapegoat in our arsenal...the lowly troll.
Well I have only met one troll in my life, at least to my knowledge, His name was Freddy Fork Fingers and he only was two or three feet tall even while wearing high heels. He was rather unfavorably looking, having what I assume from some pictures posted that he had a traditionally unnaturally large nose, and his fingernails were nearly the same length. I only knew him for a short time, less than a week. He was traveling down through my neighborhood trying to sell his best friend and lifelong companion. A big fat french speaking cow - who I can only assume by some wickedly unfortunate twist of fate had been named of all things 'Deja Moo.' I never saw Freddy Fork Fingers talk, giggle or even sneeze - in fact the story is very sad. Parking his french speaking cow by a city park with a little man made lake. Freddy decided to rest himself under a shady juniper tree and take off his stilletos for a nap. When out of nowhere a militant frenchman of ill favor appeared from nowhere. He was dressed as a bad looking like a junkie reject from Circe de Solei. But in fact was a devilish and terrible Mime. Who without saying a word slit Freddys throat, stole his stillettos, chopped off Freddys head and feets, then mounted poor innocent Deja Moo bareback, blew Freddys corpse a kiss of death...and like all evil Mimes, waved one gloved hand high while spaking his gettaway cow hard to make haste.
Freddy was AWOL from the Foreign Leigion, and what remained of his body was desecrated by Interpol for no apparent reason.
Deja Moo was found hog tied outside of an adult movie theatre in Paris two nights later, she had been milked, assaulted with a chocolate pudding pop, the local police had never seen anything like this ever before, especially done to a cow.
And the allegedly troll murdering Mime is still out there someplace conducting business as usual, possibly wearing stolen stillettos and drinking chocolate milk.
There are some individuals out there who don't just enjoy winding up people on newsgroups and bulletin boards - it's their sad lifestyle choice! Using every known disruptive trick in the book, these troublesome types don't go out to the pub, meet members of the opposite sex or enjoy life. They spend their time hunched over their computers trolling. Here's how they work:
The object of this post is to bring together a definitive document to cover the phenomena of the Usenet Troll. To many a troll is nothing more than an annoying method of defeating the killfile whereas to the heavily killfiled, trolling can be a virtual Godsend.
What I want this document to focus on is how to create entertaining trolls. I have drawn on the expertise of the writer's of some of Usenet's finest and best remembered trolls. Trolls are for fun. The object of recreational trolling is to sit back and laugh at all those gullible idiots that will believe *anything*.
Section 1: What Is A Troll?
The WWW gives this as a definition:
troll v.,n. To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies"; which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling";, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite.
The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll.
If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it.
Not even close to trolling yet. A bit more sarcasm or name calling might do it, but you have started from the wrong place you gotta go to a serious thread where a few guys are really debating something you don't understand and butt in
If we have to teach you to be a troll then you are not cut out for it
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