It's not my place to "hope" what I wish would happen is anything anyone pays attention to; but every once in awhile there will be some really, really, ugly thread that it's posted by some nut-case or else posted to stir things up.
I'm not talking about some of the silliness and wackiness that often show up, and I'm not even talking about threads that express normal controversial things. It's hard to explain the kind of ugliness I'm talking about, but when you click on them the ugliness will hit you in the face. You just know them when they show up. You know them.... they're just sick (and sometimes demeaning to one group of human beings or another). In other words, they're the kind of thing that make your skin crawl and give off vibes that whoever posted them is a truly creepy person who should just crawl behind whatever woodwork they crawled out from.
Anyway, I wish if people ran into them (and there aren't all that many most of the time), they'd just let them go unresponded-to and sink to their death. Most of us wouldn't bother answering crackpots in offline life. Why do it here. (If anyone is wondering if I'm referring to any particular thread, let's just say it's something I saw awhile back. I don't see where it is now. ) I saw someone else's thread about name-calling. I just thought I'd add my own thread about things I wish could happen on the forums.
You're quite right! I think we should all make a resolution that if we see one of those posts, we ignore it - unless and until people start posting in support of the argument, in which case I can see why people find it impossible to keep quiet.
Good policy, Marisa.
The one potential and minor flaw might be that sockpuppets could support their alter-ego's argument; but at that point the individual would have turned himself into a sockpuppet who is on the forums against the "policy" about not showing up as a sockpuppet to get everyone else stirred up - which could then mean the person would get himself bounced out of the forums.
I find keeping quiet can seem pretty impossible even if with just one freako thread and nobody else responding; but freakos aren't going to be changed and aren't going to pay attention to what anyone else says; and if such people (let's say, for example, it were a woman ) just post to get people stirred up answering them gives them what they wanted.
Whenever I've run into this kind of thing (oh, let's say - maybe six months ago? ) I find the only way to resist replying is to tell myself if I answer I may end up being the one who puts the thread back at the top of the list of threads on the front page. (Just wanted to add, again, that I don't mean the usual foolishness that's going to offend one person or another. I mean the relatively rare but really freako things. )
I hate to keep quiet !
I like psycho threads. At least they're different. You don't have to take them seriously!
The important thing is we're in good health, alive & kicking
and our children don't suffer from malnutrition.
Well said, Lisa. I think I know whereof you speak. Seemingly a real streak of "insanity," right?
Aficionada, I think you do.
zampano, I'm not frazzled in the least - just made an observation I thought might be worth making. It's precisely because I'm fortunate enough to have a well fed family that I have the luxury of making forum observations - and keeping in mind that man (and women and girls and boys) don't live by bread alone; and sometimes aiming to clean up the "environment" for some of them isn't such a bad thing.
I'm in agreement with letting the threads die. However, we could begin to see a re-occurring issue, grant it, we won't have the issue, but that person would. If that makes sense.
If not, let me see if I can do better- *How to keep a idiot occupied? Flip this card over!" type thing coming.
He'll start a thread, it will die, he will bump it to revive it, and then it will die, then bump it to revive...so on and so forth.
He'll constantly be talking to himself primarily.
Sorry, you're right, of course. Sometimes, however, I just can't control my tongue! I should never stoop to replying to nonsense - unless it's all in fun, which is a totally different ball of wax.
Would it have been (would it be) better to click on the "report" tab? When is that the appropriate step?
I know I got sucked in by replying to someone other than the OP (about other issues), and of course that keeps the topic going, even if it's not at all related to it.
ETA: I guess one of my replies was actually to his content.
oooh...i know this guy. that is a sincerely weird person, just when I thought I've met all the weird ones here.
I certainly agreee that a good education is as precious as bread for an harmonious development.
And that education is the instrument that allows a person do decide, make choices.
Nowdays crusades are mostly conducted by non educated people.
Every day we notice that a lot of uninteresting threads get to sink to the bottom of the sorted list. That is a natural and reliable process.
And if an irritating thread is going on, feeding on posts that you consider to be "moronic", what can you do about that ?
It means that there is a "market" for rubbish also.
From my point of view it is a waste of time.
Of course I'm not talking about posts that are universally considered to be offensive, in which case one is supposed to refer them to the site admin.
I often learn and laugh from reading the forum or by hopping (I love it).
Been here for some months now and never saw nothing really shocking.
By employing your energy in your good quality writings, just by that fact, you are raising the average quality of the site and providing the standards that help others separate the wheat from the chaff.
zampano, I enjoy the forums too, and this thread isn't about the fact that we run into stuff we find "moronic". I agree that that's all part of how forums are, complete with whatever shows up. One reason I enjoy the forums is that some of the "moronic" stuff makes me laugh.
I think you may not have run into that rare kind of freako thread I mean. I've been here for close to three years now, and I haven't run into this type of thing more than, maybe, three or four times either. This thread isn't about the normal mix of threads, disagreements, foolishness, or even someone else's "weird" (to me) religious beliefs. It's about a very unique kind of "freako" thinking that I don't think would be a case of "reporting", because (in the case of that woman from six months I mentioned), the individual didn't "attack" anyone and only expressed thoughts that "gave off creepy vibes". The kind of thread I mean is pretty universally offensive but probably falls within the boundaries of what wouldn't be deleted/banned - which is why I started this thread. Besides, I'm not one to report much of anything on here. I see all of us as a bunch of community members. My approach is more to try to raise yet another subject for discussion, especially since I know at least some people know exactly the kind of thread I'm talking about. (If someone hasn't seen that kind he's going to miss my motives/point here. )
It's not a crusade. It's just an observation and single thread-subject about those rare times when something really freako/creepy shows up.
There was one particluar thread on the forum today that was quite offensive to women. I did the only thing I could do and pressed the report tab.
I provided the Hubpage team my two cents worth why the thread originator should be banned from the forum.
6 Hours after joining and had 22 odd threads and posts all designed to inflame the forum and no hubpages posted.
Maybe, if enough of us provided this type of feedback, then HP would revoke the Hubbers forum rights or existence on HP.
I agree one hundred per cent with you.
In fact, I just checked the thread. He was banned and opened a new account and took straight up from where he left off on in his own thread. Now, based upon that action, we must let these threads die down and not respond. Alas, though,there are about 3 pages on each thread he started.
Yeah - I don't quite get it. Instead of "Post a Reply," the end of the thread says "Closed to Reply," but a new post came in after that note had appeared.
Well, that's the answer.
Rather then reply, report the matter. State you find the thread offensive and HP team, if they get enough complaints can simply do what they have done. Closed To Reply.
Bravo, bravo ... All very exciting though, did you see the highly articulated correctly worded and guilded snibe responses.. breathtaking..
It's a hopeless cause. People aren't even smart enough to not reply to spam so that the posts can be deleted cleanly...
He opened another. He has more than one thread going on the same topic and I thought that was not allowed. He even said he was banned and rejoined in one of the threads and called someone a stupid B****
Not completely hopeless. It's hard to control our ego's need to say something, but practice really does yield a calmer mind, and the calmer we become with lots of practice, the less often we need to reply to drivel. We are easily provoked. I know that I am. But I think less provoked about many things than a year or two ago.
The guy uses "insane" as part of his ID. That should be enough to clarify his position and state of well-being.
Well, I realize I don't know what thread you are talking about, but it sure excites one's curiosity...
Ok. I have to admit I'm pretty intrigued myself.... !
me too. everyone's idea of ugly, psycho is different. I think the most psycho threads are those created by sock puppets, when I see a thread started by someone who has only been here 20 min., I don't even look at it. most new hubbers do not sign up to start a thread on a site they've just joined, unless it's clearly someone asking for help in the need help forum.
come on lisa, give us a clue. we could play, guess the thread.
Another good reason to limit new members to the help forums for a trial period or until a certain number of hubs are published.
To each their own. Some folks are entertained by ugliness. Let the marketplace of ideas dictate which threads rise to the top.
ohh, yes, I wasn't online much yesterday. that is psycho. :
I wouldn't even respond to a thread like that. I would not want my profile to show up on that kind of thread which is open to the WWW.
why was the thread closed and still had a page of replies after it was closed?
those kind of people (OP) remind me of those wacko, religious cult people. ladies, be careful with your online dating...
Everything online is dangerous. You never know with whom you're talking, or to whom you're e-mailing.
Yeah..I saw those threads too and I ALMOST replied.
But then I thought better of it and just let it drop.
My inner "Samuel L Jackson" almost surfaced.
Ohh that ?
I've just had a look at it. I remember having read that thread title and judging from it I didn't event bother to look further.
It's just rubbish. Nothing to be outraged about...
The poor kid doesn't even know what he is talking about. It must be depression...
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