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Duplicate Hub

  1. Ben Peck profile image60
    Ben Peckposted 6 years ago

    One of my hubs has duplicate written underneath it. I contacted hubpages saying it should be unique. Will they check it out, and if it is just a conflict of popular terminology remove the duplicate marker. Or will I have to change the content

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    Website Examinerposted 6 years ago

    I ran a quick test on your hub with the title "Dealing with online poker fatigue." On that one alone, I immediately found two articles with the same text, word by word, elsewhere on the Internet. One was published on 9 June, 2010. The other on 29 June, 2010. You have only been here for six days...

    Seems you do indeed have an issue with duplicate content. The only question is who has been copying from whom.

    1. Ben Peck profile image60
      Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      could you tell where you found them please

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        Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this
        1. Ben Peck profile image60
          Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I found them, thanks, I cant believe someone has ripped me of like this. I sent the article to a poker site I was playing at a few months ago as part of a a competion. heard no more about it and did not give it any more thought. is there anything I can do about this, and can I expect the same thing when ever I put something on the internet. This is my firstt go at publishing on the web, and that has really put me off the idea,

          1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
            Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You can contact the websites and ask that they take them down. If not, and they have Adsense, you can file a DMCA report through Google.

            1. Marisa Wright profile image93
              Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I'm not sure if he can do that, since it sounds like he submitted the article before he published it on HubPages.

              1. Ben Peck profile image60
                Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                yes that's right.

              2. psycheskinner profile image80
                psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                And the submission agree may include a right to post the material online--they often do.

            2. Ben Peck profile image60
              Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              thanks mate, I will give it a try, I wont hold my breath tho. Never mind, leave and learn, fretting over, plenty more where that came from. Too much crap in my head to let that stop me.

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            Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Sorry to hear that. It does happen a lot. We had this discussion just the other day, and you will also find links to previous forum threads on what to do about plagiarism.


            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/46711

          3. Marisa Wright profile image93
            Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Ben, any time you submit your work to a site, always read the terms and conditions first!

            Go back to the site and see if the terms are still displayed - you may find that under the terms of the comp, all submissions became the property of the poker site and they're allowed to re-use them any way they like. 

            If that's the case, you don't have a leg to stand on and just have to accept that article isn't yours any more.  However, if that wasn't stated, contact them, give them the links to your article and ask them to please explain.

            1. Len Cannon profile image89
              Len Cannonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I don't know what the terms of the contest were, but there's a good chance there was a clause stating that they owned whatever material you sent them.

              If you publish ORIGINAL work on Hubpages you will be able to control what is done with that content.  It is possible others will copy your work but you will have a valid legal claim if that happens.

              1. Ben Peck profile image60
                Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                So should I bother keeping the hub page, or just bin. I think their may have been terms on the site i sent it too, if the article is competing with it's self then wont it be useless.

                1. Ben Peck profile image60
                  Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I will just leave it there for a bit and see how it goes, it is mine after all and it is  the original,

                  Thanks everyone for the input,  of to bed now, goodnight.

                  1. travelespresso profile image85
                    travelespressoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    If you are unable to get the competition company to remove your article here's another thought.  You could edit your HubPages article so the story is largely the same but the way its expressed isn't. 
                    Good luck!

                    1. Ben Peck profile image60
                      Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                      Nice one. this problem kept me awake a little last night, then the answer came to me. Do what we always do, write about it, and maybe a review as well, vendettas are fun. I feel a hub coming on.

    2. Lisa HW profile image83
      Lisa HWposted 6 years ago

      Ben, if your Hub is something you've written but also posted somewhere else online, it will show up as "duplicate".  If you know, without doubt, that you've only posted the Hub/article on HubPages that could mean someone has copied your article and posted it somewhere else.   If you write under any other screen names it can look, to some people, like one writer has stolen another writer's work.

      If you're the one who has it posted somewhere else, you don't need to do anything (other than realize it may not get much traffic because it will be competing with itself).  In fact, the HubPages note with the "duplicate-content" warning tells you not to contact the team and tell them it's your article that you posted elsewhere.  You have the choice to remove it from one place or not, as long as you know what the situation is.

      You can look (somewhere where you see the duplicate-content warning, but I don't off-hand, recall where it is or where to click) to see where the material shows up elsewhere.  You can file a report if someone took your Hub. 

      Sometimes what can happen is someone posts a link to your Hub on something like their blog or site, but instead of just having the link and a few lines from your Hub there will be a giant chunk of your writing with the link.

    3. travelespresso profile image85
      travelespressoposted 6 years ago

      Nice work Ben Peck.  Glad you've found a couple of positives out of an unpleasant situation.
      Keep us posted.

      Another thought re the vendetta review though.  If the competition company stated they could keep and publish articles submitted then they are acting within the stated rules.  It's then a lesson for participants in contests to beware of the fine print.   

      However, if they have ripped you off, its not fair and not right so I say go for it!

      1. Ben Peck profile image60
        Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        After sending a rather grim email to the offender, eventually they realised what I was talking about, and contacted me.

        You can see their comments on the hub page.

        I was ready to forget about the whole experience, put it down to life experience.

        However, they obviously have issues with my response.

        All I can say is, they mimicked me, surely that is a sign of flattery and respect for my writing skill. Which they could not produce on there own, without my input.

        1. Ben Peck profile image60
          Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          website examiner, if you are here I could use your help.

          I have just republished the article in question and now it does not say duplicate.

          What has gone on, has the offending site yielded, or is it something else. The search engine still brings the same results. So I am baffled.

          1. Ben Peck profile image60
            Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            If anyone has a view on this, then speak now, so I can go to bed, LOL

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            Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            To answer this, I'd have to know how often HubPages content filter updates data from the search engines. HubPages staff knows this, I guess.

            Also keep in mind that the blogs may get crawled less frequently compared with HubPages, meaning the search results may not be quite up-to-date.

            Be safe.


            http://hubpages.com/contact_us/

    4. KCC Big Country profile image84
      KCC Big Countryposted 6 years ago

      Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't hubs promoting gambling against HP and Google's TOS anyway?  Aren't the articles regarding playing online poker?  Or is it not considered gambling?  I'm only asking.

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        Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I've read the hubs, and I do not see them as promoting gambling - more like an online gambler's perspective on life, like satire.

        1. KCC Big Country profile image84
          KCC Big Countryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Cool.....then he's probably ok.  I just didn't want him to get caught up in a mess if he didn't have to.

    5. KCC Big Country profile image84
      KCC Big Countryposted 6 years ago

      You know you can email Website Examiner directly, right?  I checked and he has that feature enabled on his profile.

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        Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks KCC Big Country, you are a model citizen around here.

        1. KCC Big Country profile image84
          KCC Big Countryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          LOL.....thank you, like you, I try to help when I can.

          1. Ben Peck profile image60
            Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You guys are great, I can sleep happy knowing the world has people like this
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            Thanks for telling me about emailing our Web site examiner. Someone will have a busy in box tomorrow. LMAO.

            1. Ben Peck profile image60
              Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Hang on a sec, was my question answered?
              I know you guys must be busy, but if you can spread some light on the subject, I would be very grateful,
              in your own time. no rush.

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                Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I answered as far as what is possible, see my post above.

                You may get caught in the duplicate content filter again, or you may not.

                You may get in trouble over copyright issues, or you may not.

                I think only time will tell.

                You may of course contact HubPages on the link I provided and ask them to moderate your hub; I am not advising you on that, only saying this is always an option.

                1. Ben Peck profile image60
                  Ben Peckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Thanks mate.

                  Perhaps, it was the gods of writing justice, only time will tell.

                  Either way, You certainly know your mushrooms.

                  Goodnight, and sleep well.

     
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