So, here's my rant for the day....just today...tomorrow it'll be different.
Am I the only one that believes that if someone randomly and out of nowhere "follows" you.....just take a minute to, at the very least, look at their profile page and maybe even "follow" them back. Come on.....what's it gonna kill ya. Seriously. I've seen this too many times. And, you know what? I may have been guilty of the same thing in my early days here.
People generally want to acknowledge and be acknowledged. If you are one of "those" hubbers....please, it ain't all about you and your score....it's about others too. So, come on now...share the love. And, I'm not asking for accolades or any other thing. I've noticed this alot alot alot throughout HPs.
There ya go...fire away....
Fair enough. But I follow people if I want to see and read their new hubs. That's all I use it for. I don;t care if they follow me back and I don't automatically check out anyone who follows me.
If someone follows me, I usually check out their profile page and often leave a comment on their hubs - just so that they know that I've noticed. I do not know whether that is appreciated.
Is there a betteer way of saying this... ??
I'm not new, but I'm "one of those" people, I guess. It's not because I feel like "it's all about me and my score" at all. When I see that someone has become a "follower" my instinct is to feel honored (but I'm also aware that a lot of the times someone isn't following someone else for the writing, and is instead looking for a "reciprocal" follower or following for some other reason. Still, I keep that in mind and allow myself to feel mildly complimented at first.
I'll go to the person's profile, but sometimes the person will be someone who writes about one subject, and it's a subject I'm just not at all interested in. It might be something like "all Hubs about transmissions". Well, I'd be lying if I pretended to interested in transmissions; and as much as I'd like to just read the person's Hubs, I just can't take reading time for something I'm honestly not interested in.
Then, I'll always think, "Should I send a fan mail?" Well, no - because I haven't read the person's Hubs, and I'm not someone who can "just say anything" whether I mean it or not. So, no fan mail.
Then I'll think, "How about a "contact-this-Hubber" message?" What stops me from that is knowing there's a good chance the person isn't really interested in my writing anyway, so I'll feel stupid if I write a "thank you" to the person who doesn't care who it is he followed on his "following spree".
If I see that person writes stuff that I'll really want to read, I'll often follow the person back and/or write a comment.
So, the person never really knows I did anything but accept the "follow". Sometimes, a few days later I'll follow the person back, so it won't look like I"m just "reciprocal following".
Personally, if I follow someone it's because I'm interested in whatever he writes, and I don't care if my following him gets acknowledged or not (because I know how it works when someone else follows me).
On the other hand, I may follow someone who writes about something I'm interested in that has nothing to do with what my Hubs are about. I don't expect that person to acknowledge that I follow him. (Which means, I'm someone who NEVER thinks it's "about me" at all - even if, right or wrong, I don't always acknowledge new followers. )
Most of the time, it's all just a matter of either people thinking completely differently about what they ought to be doing or not doing, or else people not really knowing what someone else expects them to do.
When someone follows me out of respect I do follow them back and I also take time to read a few of their hubs. But if they do not have any hubs at all, no profile and no pic. I just won't do it.
Well Stimp old Gal, that told me. I was going to look you up honest but since the old insomnia is back, I've taken the time to share the love. Goaty sounded lovely, my Bramble would have been all over him like a rash.
oh now I get it....that's it...I un-followed you.
I really wasn't referring to you. There are some that think they are celebrities or something and its just odd.
I'll follow you again....I was just joking.
This isn't facebook! I follow those whose writing I like or because I like them. Why not just have it where everyone follows everyone and perhaps then you would be happy! Sorry, but just my opinion!
Okay Mr.298_followers. JK....I understand. Its just my opinion and this is yours. Nice that we can all share in a friendly environment.
HOWEVER, do you give a random follower...the pleasure of having you visit THEIR hubs as well? Just askin....that's just a consideration. I'm not sayin'....follow, follow, follow...what does it kill a guy to just go to a newbies hub and read just randomly?
I wonder if some aren't so stuck on themselves that they can't at least give someone the opportunity to show their work. I thank all the 85 people who have stopped by, read my stuff and took the time to "follow" me. And I've found alot of people who I never thought I'd connect with, whom I have. But That's what I look for here...not money, or fame. That's just laughable.
Why do you associate the number of followers with a friendly environment? You think I would even want to try and keep up with all those following me? Not enough time for that. How many of your follower's hubs have you read today? Or do you just want the numbers by your name?
Actually about 10....how 'bout you?
Naw, I have a good job. I couldn't give a crap about the numbers....I'm talking about consideration of others' work. But hey, if its too much to handle, its too much to handle.
Probably the same as you, why didn't you read 85 since you seem so up for having many followers? How many followers do you want?
You are missing the point.....So, nevermind. It doesn't matter. You are entitled to your opinion and I mine and on this one we can agree to disagree.
Perhaps if you explained the point of why I should follow someone who has been here a couple of hours and and may not be here much longer than that. Or following someone who doesn't know how to string two complete sentences together. What good is following these folks? Yes we can agree to disagree. Thank goodness!
I wasn't suggesting that. What I was suggesting is that if others can give us the consideration of their time, maybe we could do the same, that's it. But it is what it is.
So if you follow me, I have to give you my time? Even if I haven't asked you to do so? What is the rational basis for that?
I must agree. When I first started here, it took a long time for me to gain followers and I feel pretty proud that the followers I have do so because they respect me and/or my writing. I didn't go around fanning other hubbers just to get noticed.
I often get new followers that leave fan mail saying something to the extent of "...I welcome you to check out my hubs and follow me..." I think that's rude. I appreciate every follower I have and I do try to check out the profile of every new follower. I do not, however, have the time to read a ton of hubs, so I am selective as to whom I follow and I mean no offense to anyone - I simply do not have the time and I don't want constant email notifications. I know I can turn off notifications, but I do like receiving the notifications of the hubbers I do want to follow. Enough said?
I wonder how your "fans", "followers" or whatever you want to label them would feel if they knew someone who they took the time FOR and gave the consideration TO has turned around and said "I DON'T HAVE THE TIME for them...." Interesting.
And, I don't believe I said anything about numbers being attached to a profile equates to a friendly environment....obviously VERY obviously it DOES NOT!!!
I can't stand when one follows you then unfollows you once you return the favor in kind HP should auto-unfollow if somebody unfollows. k.. thx for listening, hug!
I know I followed them after they follow me. I do what AEvans does too. Read their Hubs, rate, maybe leave a comment and follow them if I like their Hubs..but then..they turn around and un-follow me after I follow them. Go figure,
Unless I enjoy their work I'm not interested. I don't want to teach the world to sing. Sure, It's nice to be nice, but I'd hazard a guess that 90% of my followers haven't read a single hub of mine.
So if we're all just fanning people for the sake of it, what's the point in any of it?
Glad I'm not the only "selfish" hubber on here! LOL! I just feel if you fan everyone who fans you it makes following someone because of their writing ability less meaningful somehow! But that is just my opinion, which I seem to value more than some others it seems! HA!
I didn't think that was what Stimp was saying - she "checks them out" and MAYBE follows them! ok? is that ok with you? maybe she has followed a bunch of people who didn't even bother to check out her stuff? maybe. I know I have. but anyhoooooo. . .
Ok, as long as we're ranting - I have a minor one. I guess it's kind of a rant, yet kind of funny...
I often notice that if I comment on another hubber's hub it seems that some hubbers feel that they better get on over to my hubs and leave me a comment in return. It's actually just kinda silly, not upsetting...
I never follow someone unless I enjoy their work. I hope that the people who follow me do so because they like my writing and for no other reason.
whassup peeps! (I'm gonna start talking like that, maybe, trying to decide) Ok - so now I have over 200 followers and I get the daily notice of the new hubs they have written, but only about 10 of them write any new hubs each day! Some ocd people write 3 a day, but usually they have some agenda, like they're selling something, and I don't read those unless I am interested in buying dungarees or some such. But anyhow I don't have all that much reading to do to keep up pretty much. Some days I don't feel like it. I know that is the way it is with the people who follow me too.
But if somebody new follows me - I check them out - I am not always gonna follow - especially if they are Republicans (kidding,, just kidding!) But sometimes I find a new friend this way. Like Stimp! who writes the most delightful things and is just the kind of person I would like to drink a few with (a few iced teas, of course) and talk about our shagging days.
How can any of the above be controversial? But surely someone will come along and take issue with some detail of what I said. Go ahead, make my day!
I think everyone should do what they feel like doing; no more, no less.
I think EVERYONE should be like me. and I am not shouting. If everyone were like me we would have world peace. because no one would no what the heck they were doing.
I agree with this! But disparaging others for not doing like they do is wrong. How many of us have a new follower whose entire last few hours of hubtivity is composed of following the highest scoring hubbers? Or just anyone? What does this tell you about them?
well, thanks. I appreciate that and that is precisely what I was trying to say although, it was taken wrong and brought to some sinister level on my part. But Wutevvvaaaa......
I can't think of anything else to say. So, whassup Stimpy! I had a nice nap, thanks to you! You reminded me of naps earlier and how nice they are! So first I sat in the sun awhile and got nice and drowsy and then I had a nap! Now I am hogging the forums with excess verbiage! Muuuuuwwwwahhahahahahaaaaaaa!
No one said it was sinister at all! Here, I will follow you if it makes you happy! But please don't feel you have to do the same!
forgot to say that I follow some people because I enjoy them in the forums - and vice versa - I don't always read their hubs, like LeanMan who writes about some kind of technical corporate business efficiency nonsense I can't make heads or tails of but I enjoy his lusty forum presence. (shall I go on and on? I think not)
WAS there a disparaging word? wait - I'm gonna go look it up because obviously I don't know what the heck disparaging means, or something.
"There are some that think they are celebrities or something and its just odd."
Not exactly complimentary!
I didn't notice any insults before, but I guess you were saying that I, little old me, think I'm a celebrity or something? Because, yes, I am one. and so is that other person who said she was a celebrity who didn't want to bring down the pages with too much traffic if she told us who she really is! (some people know what a joke is - if so, could you please explain JOKE to Randy - that's J O K E!) Peace!
oops - that celebrity reference above was about something someone said in another thread. MY BAD! ok. I was WRONG! OK? but, however, some people ACT like they think they are celebrities and big deal because they have so many hubs and followers and traffic and MONEY and stuff. I guess. That is, I know that there are people in the forums who studiously ignore me and then jump on my butt if I say (usually joking) something slightly derogatory or what was that other word?
R A N T - guess I better go look that one up too! Peace
and love, damn it!
Not you, Stimp said this earlier! Geesh!
But there are those who make much money, get many followers, write lots of hubs, (none of these include me) who ARE celebrities of sorts here on hubpages. They earned this small bit of notoriety and I do not begrudge them for it.
This does not mean they feel too good to follow anyone else! Not angry about this, just realistic! Peace to you too, dammit! LOL!
How come you all decided to mellow out, finally?
Seriously, there are.....I've read profiles that actually say that "I consider myself to be a professional stand up comedian"... I don't know what to tell ya....it's the truth.
Now, I gotta go get my crippled cat off the deck and put him in the garage.
The point was brought up earlier when was essentially "why do I want to BOTHER following or even checking out a newbie who may only be here for a couple days"....why? for entertainment, enlightenment, YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING....crazy concept, I know.
Example: Back in early spring...I stopped by after a long while of being away....shutter the thought...Anywhoooooo...there was a newbie. Her name was Stormy something or other. She was all over the forums, she was whitty. I checked out her hubs and they BLEW ME AWAY. her poetry (and I'm not a poetry kind of person) was phenominal. I followed her. She disappeared after about a month. When I came back she was gone and I wanted to read her stuff again. Couldn't find her. MOW showed me she was gone.
THAT is WHY it is worth time to give time to others. FOR ME, anyway....her stuff was beautiful.....someone asked "whats the appropriate turnaround time"....oh, I don't know...I think 15 minutes is fair.
I just want to add that you can read hubs from newbies without following them. I read lots of hubs by hubbers I don't follow.
Exactly, UW! I probably read more of the hubs by newbies and less well know writers here than any others. That goes for commenting too. We each get to choose how we approach this "following" concept despite what others think we should do. I like it this way!
Here's a case in point....RG....I stopped by one of your hubs. And, I learned something. I'm not a hunter myself, but I do shoot...in my backyard on my farm....surprised? Yup, BUT, I struggle for that perfect x-mas gift for my spouse....now I know where to go for tips. Thanks. I learned something today.
Thanks Stimp! Please do not think I am trying to be contrary, I just look at this thing differently. Good to know another shooter here!
Shot a raccoon once.....took one of my kittens.
Me too, I only follow someone if I like their work. I read loads of hubs but only follow the ones that 'speak' to me. I thought that's what everyone did!
I agree with ya, Stimp. Out of courtesy I follow people back and at least check out their Hubs. Sometimes I don't have time and I just follow them, planning to check their Hubs out at another time. I don't do this for everyone that follows me though (people that spam follow, for example).
and some love, if it is desired and appreciated and wanted, only then, of course, and it will not be thrust upon anybody who does not want love.
I thought Beth told me you were already getting a dose of love tonight from your master! LOL!
well, I suppose, if you can call THAT love! from her master, that - love? dude. what was you saying?
I just liked this one.... no where to post it....this'll do! LOL!
Seems if you decide to follow a hubber you should do them the courtesy of reading at least some of there hubs.How can a person do that if they follow hundreds of writers.That kind of limits how many folks you can follow.Also,if a hubber follows you and they are radically different in there thinking[no judgement here]than you are,you can't in good conscience follow them back.imo.
I wonder if anyone noticed I got boobs today....Didn't have 'em this a.m.
I noticed...I got quite the laugh out of your posts - I forget who came by.....DR? in vegas....had to go to work though
Good Lord, thank you....now I can go back to being Stimp again and not Ms. Boobulah.
I think you should stay that way for a bit......LOL! ...why not? ...hey I got fired from my job at Mcd's today....couldn't make the patties big enough....you could go places with those!
yup...wouldn't even let me be the tosser.....can i borrow those...going for a job at the competition tomorrow...they could come in handy.
I must say, you do have a couple of good points!
NO ONE wants to talk about your boobs, Stimp - it just isn't done. Dude. what's wrong with you? We quietly may say something like - LOVE your new avatar, Stimp - but we ain't gonna talk about your tetas, no how!
You need either big patties or big bazoombas to be successful.
So, how long does a fractured bone take to heal....Gooooooodddd....
I will just assume that all of us are following each other. Right. and get on with my life. dudes.
but more importantly, did I or did I not get reported this morning for being too weird? my score went down to a 95 from 99 yesterday and I have twice as much traffic. hmmmmmm.
oh well. nevermind. dude - whassup? We going to get it on or what?
Meaning, will we or will we not discuss something.
me too. I'm outta here for awhile - for as long as I can stay away!
Unrelated to other posts here, I do have a very angry rant today.
A hospital E.R. nurse (a guy) launched a verbal assault on me today concerning a legal issue with one of our mental health clients in 'his' E.R. It was totally irrational, out of control & unprofessional. I thought the guy was kidding, you know, never had a cross word with him before. The sad part about it is, the E.R. physician who is over the dept. was sitting right there & allowed it. All the employees in the back of the E.R. were negatively affected by it. The other doc sitting nearby was shocked. I calmly turned away from the 'rager', looked at the other doc & said "I will not take verbal abuse". He said, "Absolutely not...breath deep". So we go in the med room where he proceeds to let me have it. I was as professional as can be expected....being I've felt terrible, am on mega doses of antibiotics, & am fighting a life threatening illness (Lyme disease) as well.
Needless to say, I'll be reporting the incident tomorrow: first to my superiors, then to the hospital administrator. I won't stand for abuse. Believe me, after that outburst, I was spent. I actually couldn't even cry about it. I'm just dealing with too dang much. Thank you for listening.
So there is my rant.
That sounds like a double dose of abuse. First the ER nurse letting go on you, then (if I'm reading this correctly) the doctor -- who should have been backing you up -- let you have it again privately (in the med room).
I don't work in the ER but I've been in enough of them to know they are extremely tense places for all concerned.
But you know, workplace rants are not limited to such life-or-death, high-stress environments. I've heard people "go postal" in supposedly professional environments.
I do hope you get an apology from the nurse.
You are owed one.
The idea of "deep breath" is a good one, too. And, I hope that getting the feeling out there has helped you! MM
And, Generally, I try to think that if someone is going off on me...for whatever reason....I think THEY are having some issues personally or professionally and I try to feel sorry for them. Just say "I'm sorry you are having such a bad time, how can I help." At least you tried.
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