Hey, how's this for a suggestion?
For those of you that have been on the forums for a while, may be aware how "crappy" it can become, especially in the Religion forum. None of us really have a chance to really interact civilly, without various ones derailing every topic ever posted.
So, how do you guys feel about a private chat room feature here?
You can invite, or be invited, to engage privately, without being harassed by unwanted posters.
I open it up for discussion and maybe, if enough people are for it, HP officials may consider it (if not already doing so).
I like the idea, else I wouldn't have posted this.
What do y,all think?
This has come up a few times over the coming weeks:
I like the idea but I know from my post that quite a few highlighted that it would be a mammoth task for HP to manage :S
It would be good to hear from HP-HQ what the position is on this
I'm not in favour of chatrooms, there are plenty of places for people to go to if that's what they want.Hubpages needs to be unique and is so in my opinion, so don't follow the crowd.
My thoughts were more along the lines of having it "in house" so to speak. Rather than trying to connect with other hubbers "off site".
But still keeping "unwanted" commenters/posters OUT of the discussion.
aka-dj isn't that what the forums are for?
Aka-dj, if you want HubPages to offer this feature, you need to work out how it would benefit them. HP is a business, after all. They're not going to add a feature that's going to cost them money and create no income in return.
HubPages forum debates turn up in search results so they do attract visitors to the site, so the forums do help the site's income. Private chatrooms wouldn't, therefore they would contribute nothing to the site's profits, therefore i can't see why HP would be interested.
If you want a chatroom enough, you'll use the off-site version being offered - or start your own. It's not like you have to get in your car and drive for half an hour to get to another site...
A chat room where only the chosen ones can 'enter' - sounds like a church sect more than a useful place to discuss.
I guess I could support a chat room where those who engage in pointless and self-congratulatory 'happy talk' could get it out of heir system before posting with the grown ups; and those who want to qoute scripture endlessly to no purpose except their own gratification could discuss them with other scrippies - but the religious posters who post in the forums want to argue, want to try and push their outdated and discredited god-ideas onto others, what would they do without us ?
I'm just restating my objection. Writing and promoting hubs should remain the focus of this site.
If you want to argue politics and religion or talk about sex, there are lots of other places to do it.
How right you are, Nelle.
If it weren't for the Forums, I might be writing a Hub now ... a chatroom could only make things worse.
I agree. HubPages is a writing site. If you want to chat with someone you can always email the person you want to chat with and give them your Yahoo or MSN info and utilize their chatting options.
Where did this come from - I looked back but can't find the original post !! but anyway - the forums are not only for the mechanics and promotion of hubs surely ! They are for testing ideas and arguments, getting opinion on the ideas we get from time to time ?? Maybe you are getting a bit too jaded and fixed on the 'bussyness' of writing Nellie - go find a religious thread and kick the living c**p out of some unfortunate poster who puts up another "I made up this miracle" thread or something, it helps relax all the neck muscle groups and the lower back - just what we need after a hard days writing stuff we don't actually care about
Poor info bucket is over on another topic trying to drum up interest in the chat room he set up for hubbers. Anyone interesting in chatting should give it a chance.
The format HubPages already offers in the forums is already better than a "chatroom" of that on a social networking site.
Think how furious the people who flame out all the time about how they are treated in the forums--a slow moving conversation that <cough> allows time for thought between posts <cough>--would get over being banned for their emotional vitriol in a chat room.
Who'd want to moderate that? (LOL, I actually would, but that's not my point. )
you mean a place where we could ask sexy ladies what sexy clothes they are, or are not wearing, on their sexy bodies in a sexy way?
A la the other thread about foul language, "You betcha!"
A chat room is a horrible idea. It's just more work for the staff and just more silly crap taking up internet space. And it takes away from hubbing.
I hate chat rooms, as there is more of an annoying thing of texting talk and all that short chat shite that I really hate, adding a chat room feature to hubpages will just be the very worst idea ever!
If you want to chat, why not talk to yourself, it's much easier!
I've never been to a chat room but don't think it's anything I'd be interested in. The forum is there for announcements, questions, discussions, and being silly. Somehow, that seems like enough to me. They provide a kind of low-pressure break away from writing and creating Hubs. This may sound "paranoid", but I still like having just that little bit of time to think first before I share or say some things on the Internet. It's bad enough as it is when it comes "opening doors" to (and conversations with) all kinds of strangers (even if some of it is only to get marketing information or something relatively innocent).
On the Forums, I'm sometimes silly enough to sit and wait for a new message to pop up (absent mindedly, you understand), then I realise I have to refresh the page.
Wouldn't it be better if the new messages came up automatically, like in chatrooms?
Or maybe I'm doing something wrong ...
It has nothing to do with doing anything wrong. It's preference. Some people favor the chat thing. A lot of forum participants pop on and off as they're doing other things, so refreshing the page isn't an issue. I know for me, it always amounts to refreshing the page just because I don't stay there the whole time. I keep often keep the forum up in its own window, as part of taking a break. It's kind of pressure-free, as compared to a chat thing. I don't want any more extra windows. (That may just be me, though.)
Glad to know you refresh too. I thought there might be an easier way.
But yes, the chatroom style does add pressure somehow - and I wasn't thinking of more windows ...
Let's just leave things as they are
I was just thinking of more extra windows for myself. Since I leave the forum up in an extra window (and leave up another "break site" too, sometimes), I just know I wouldn't be adding yet more.
I have found that most hubbers are doing a few things at once like having several windows up, that they stray away from the chatroom then take forever to respond to what someone says anyway. It would be good otherwise, but most people will wonder off onto something else and the conversation doesn't flow very well in the chatroom.
I've posted this thread earlier and started a chatroom, but no one is coming there................Check it out here
Perhaps if you just asked to have any unbelievers banned from the "Christian" threads?
Although - I do get the sense that preaching to the choir is not as satisfying as sticking your morals to the pagans to demonstrate how "saved" you are.
Yep, thumbs down.... The idea has been suggested before, and wasn't loved then either.
I ditto the thought that HubPages is a writing site, not a social networking site. There are tons of websites to meet and greet, but not many that provide such a great source of potential revenue.
And, like Nelle, I could care less if the forums disappear. Personally, I use the forums to waste time when I don't want to write or I'm not motivated. If there wasn't a forum, I would probably spend more time reading other people's hubs and writing more of my own.
I disagree - I've learned a LOT from the forums, stuff which I'd never have even known existed otherwise. The HP forums aren't just for hanging out and having a laugh.
That said, I can't see that an HP chatroom would really add anything to the party and it would only mean extra work for the HP staff, as other people have said.
I'm like you, Whitney. The forums are my way of procrastinating, and I do it far too much!
I wouldn't like them to disappear, because like Rebekah I've found them a great place to learn. I'd be happy to see all the topic-specific forums disappear, though - all the religious and politicial forums do is scare newbies away from the forums as a whole, then they miss out on the learning aspects.
No I'm not getting too jaded. There are limited resources at a HP, which is a very small company. I come here to make a lot of money every day, and I want the staff to know that that's where some of us would like their efforts to remain.
If the forums disappeared tomorrow, I'd be fine. When I want a true break from writing I go to the coffee shop around the corner and hangout for awhile.
I don't see how your chat room would work if you didn't want certain people to participate.. just make your own chat or visit another site.
the forums do serve a purpose for HP besides being community oriented, as they also bring in traffic. it's nice to take a peek and see what's going on, we're from everywhere. it's interesting at times.
if people don't like them, they don't have to participate. it's that simple.
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