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Serious Attack on Hubpages !!!

  1. muratos profile image60
    muratosposted 7 years ago

    Hi friends,

    I have today noticed a very disturbing automated content attack on most of my hubs. I suspect many other hubbers may also suffer from this.

    It is basically working like this. For example, my original hub is here:

    http://hubpages.com/hub/HTC-Evo-4G-Cases

    The spammer opened an account by the same name (automated): HTC Evo 4G Cases

    http://hubpages.com/profile/HTC+Evo+4G+Cases

    and voila! My exactly same post word by word copied in another hub.

    http://hubpages.com/hub/HTC-Evo-4G-Cases-here

    What did they do is just adding -here keyword at the end of link.

    I am almost certain that it is automated because many other my hubs have the same situation with -here keyword. Especially, on Amazon product reviews ones.

    I will update the thread if I find other hubbers on the same situation.

    My suggestion is to bring a strong Captcha solution to prevent automated hub openings. It would reduce such attacks.

    Murat

    1. shazwellyn profile image82
      shazwellynposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You need to contact hubpages with this as soon as possible.  They have specialist software that can deal with it and trace the violation.  The perpertrator will not get away with it!

    2. muratos profile image60
      muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I now see that all of my hubs were re-created under different user names. I suspect that the spammer has got the RSS feeds, scraped the content without links and re-posted under different user names, automatically. This is very serious.

    3. pauldeeds profile image
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      pauldeedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This threat has been neutralized.  Thanks for letting us know.

      1. Whitney05 profile image62
        Whitney05posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Like I said... Contact the HP team and they'll get it straightened out.


        No need to create chaos over nothing. This isn't the first time it's happened, and it won't be the last.

        There wasn't any need for rudeness. Next time just contact the team and flag on your own...

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          ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I didn't really see any rudeness? It's just that the problem was perhaps a lot wider than you seem to have first anticipated, a bit unrealistic for people to flag hundreds of hubs?

          Anyway glad that it is all sorted. Cheers Paul.

        2. muratos profile image60
          muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Sorry, I didn't want any rudeness and I think I didn't write anything personal except pure information.

          I have seen the potential global harm and wanted to inform people. Plus, I didn't know about the email of HP. (Now, I know smile

          As you can notice, I am not also a very active member but appreciate HP, it helps me making money and wanted to help.

          1. rebekahELLE profile image90
            rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            your thread wasn't rude. you reported in the correct thread and alerted the HP staff. I will watch for those one hub title screen name profiles more often when hub hopping. thanks. smile

          2. alternate poet profile image64
            alternate poetposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You were NOT rude in any way that I can see - also it is perfectly right to bring this up in the forums so that other hubbers are alerted to this kind of thing.  Maybe someone else was just having a bad day, but you have done all the RIGHT things  - thanks for bringing it to our attention smile

          3. Whitney05 profile image62
            Whitney05posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I didn't mean you by any means. It was the sarcastic comment that I felt coming my direction with "does this look familiar"

            Anyway, I understand that concern, but it's so much easier to just report to hubpages rather than post here. I don't expect every hubber that has copied a hub to be flagged, as that can consist of very many, but flag a few that you see, and they'll get the picture. Also, send an email to them about the concern. They'll take appropriate actions. This isn't the first, and won't be the last time this happens.

        3. PaulaHenry1 profile image69
          PaulaHenry1posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          where is the rudeness? Just seemed to me that they were very "concerned"

  2. Anesidora profile image65
    Anesidoraposted 7 years ago

    Wow. Oh my goodness, I don't even want to look.

    You've alerted HubPages staff directly?

    1. muratos profile image60
      muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I have alerted on some of the individual posts as a flag on both username and posts. But, I see that almost all my posts were copied in multiple accounts. So, it would be hard to find and flag all of them.

      1. pauldeeds profile image
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        pauldeedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Flag an individual hub or two (and include some brief additional details in the message portion).  That will alert us fairly quickly, and we can use the tools at our disposal to take care of other instances.   But, as others have mentioned  it's also a good idea to email us.  An email *may* result in swifter action.

  3. thranax profile image30
    thranaxposted 7 years ago

    Thanks for alerting us about the situation. Gotta check our Hubs now to see if there are any duplicates and will need to hope the Team gets around to dealing with his IP and not just going after the spam accounts.

    ~thranax~

    1. muratos profile image60
      muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks thranax,

      I will be flagging such accounts and posts related to my hubs. No other way for me now sad I have searched some hubs from top hubbers. Interestingly, they don't have such issue.

      I suspect that the spammers don't want to be very apparent on this eventhough they could fill up hubpages easily with duplicates of any content. As a programmer myself, I can even write such an application using Yahoo Pipes for example smile Scraping content, creating accounts and posting automatically.

      I still support that a very strong Captcha application is needed before publishing a new hub.

      I just don't remember... Is there an email token approval system for new accounts?

  4. Whitney05 profile image62
    Whitney05posted 7 years ago

    The guy doesn't have any hubtivity besides the one hub he has published.



    Just let hubpages know it's your hub. No reason to bring it here.  Email them directly for problems like this.

    1. rebekahELLE profile image90
      rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      the only thing is he could be doing this to many other hubbers, just opening different accounts.

      1. muratos profile image60
        muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I am looking for other hubs in the same situation but couldn't find yet.
        So, I look like a victim sad
        I think it is possible to apply this method to all.

        1. muratos profile image60
          muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Ok I am not the only hubber. Look another popular hubber's post. Same method

          The original from "iantoPF"

          http://hubpages.com/hub/English-Swear-Words

          Copy

          http://hubpages.com/hub/English-Swear-Words-here

          ----

          The original from "glassvisage"

          http://hubpages.com/hub/How_to_ask_a_gi … her_number

          Copy

          http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-ask-a-gi … umber-here

          This is a systematic spam apparently. Just hiding itself maybe by evaluating the frequency of the posts of the hubber.

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          cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          doesn't the Copied Hubs link in the Your Hubs section under 'my account' let you know you have copied hubs? i'm confused...

          1. Whitney05 profile image62
            Whitney05posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Not everyone has this ability. I don't think it ever went site-wide.


            Flag the hubber profiles and contact HP. There's no reason to keep bringing it up here.

            1. sunforged profile image67
              sunforgedposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              lol

              1. Whitney05 profile image62
                Whitney05posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                ??

                1. sunforged profile image67
                  sunforgedposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I guess, lol, was an exaggeration, perhaps "small giggle" but I dont have a short code for that

                  Thanks for answering the "question" question.

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              cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              really? i didn't know that. wow, everyone should have that. then you're right, they should be flagged, definitely.

              1. Whitney05 profile image62
                Whitney05posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I agree, it should be universal, but there are bugs with the section if you ask me. The bugs should be worked out before it be site-wide.  Once the stolen material is removed, it remains on the page; you can delete the link, but the section title where it was never goes away and the warning on the hub remains.

                Oh, and as for mine that was stolen. There's not warning in the HubPages system about it.

    2. IzzyM profile image86
      IzzyMposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Does this hub look familiar, Whitney?
      http://hubpages.com/hub/Caring-for-and- … toise-here

      1. Whitney05 profile image62
        Whitney05posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yep. Flagged profile and hub. Why can't it be that simple for everyone? There was no need for rudeness. Relax. It happens all the time. It's not a public matter. That's where the email for hubpages team comes in handy. They have to do the moderation anyway, so no need to flip out on other hubbers.

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No need to bring that on here IzzyM wink

    3. profile image0
      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Except it isn't just one hub Whitney, its ALL of his hubs.

  5. muratos profile image60
    muratosposted 7 years ago
  6. IzzyM profile image86
    IzzyMposted 7 years ago

    OMG this is very serious. How do you find copied hubs apart from individually submitting the title into hub search?

    1. muratos profile image60
      muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      By the help of Google. The following query finds all indexed pages with "here" keyword in URL text. You can see the copied ones after search pages starting from page 6, 7. Most of them are from my hubs for now.

      allinurl: here site:hubpages.com

      The problem is that these keywords can be changed. I have accidentally noticed the situation for my hubs. Plus, innocent hubs are also included in the Google search, so it is hard to determine the exact copies by hand.

      Two things should be implemented immediately.

      1) Strong Captcha on publishing hubs.
      2) New Registration approval only by email (I am not sure if it already exists or not)

  7. rebekahELLE profile image90
    rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago

    I've often wondered about these one hub, title-named grey hubbers. how sneaky. but shouldn't the duplicate flag appear in the copied hubbers account?

    1. muratos profile image60
      muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think duplicate content flag appears only on spammer's account since the original one is already indexed by search engines. But, spammers surely just don't care about it.

      If I will have time, I can make a search on how it affects the search engine rankings for main competitive keywords in these hubs.

      1. rebekahELLE profile image90
        rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        this is what HP says about duplicate content.
        http://hubpages.com/faq/#duplicate_content

        1. muratos profile image60
          muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Duplicate content is allowed by HP (with score penalty) unless someone flags it. I have 2, 3 hubs in this situation and getting traffic smile

          1. thisisoli profile image55
            thisisoliposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Duplicate content is allowed by Hubpages, but Copyright violations are not.

  8. IzzyM profile image86
    IzzyMposted 7 years ago

    Guess Hubpages are working on it. I was searching with the search query you suggested when this error message suddenly came up!

    We're sorry...

    ... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.

    See Google Help for more information.

    1. muratos profile image60
      muratosposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This error actually comes from Google, not Hubpages smile They think that our query is automated because of clicks on individual search results on many pages. Anyway, it is not related to HP  smile)

    2. sunforged profile image67
      sunforgedposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Izzy did you recently install a SEO Toolbar like SEO for firefox or SEO quake?

      If so - go to tools - select teh preferences of your seo toolbar and change the options to "by request"

      If you have I can explain better.

      1. IzzyM profile image86
        IzzyMposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'm using google chrome just now - its so much faster than Firefox, but then that is probably because I've got a cache full of crap. Only reason I haven't emptied it yet is because of all the passwords stored on it - but I've got a program that saved my passwords so it isn't really an issue.

  9. Whitney05 profile image62
    Whitney05posted 7 years ago

    Gotcha. I didn't care to notice that in the link. I just clicked to see, 'yep those are the same.'

  10. IzzyM profile image86
    IzzyMposted 7 years ago

    Thanks Muratos, for bringing this matter to our attention smile

  11. skyfire profile image72
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Looks like someone wrote bot to bypass captcha of HP registration then made copies of hubs.

  12. SiddSingh profile image62
    SiddSinghposted 7 years ago

    @Muratos,

    Thank you for bringing this to the notice of everyone.

  13. iantoPF profile image87
    iantoPFposted 6 years ago

    Thank you for bringing this to our attention Muratos. I'm on vacation and was scanning through the forum when i chanced to read your post. I personally want to thank you, I had no idea my Hub was being plagiarized. You have a new fan.
    Thank you Paul. It's good to know that we have your support when things like this happen.

 
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