Statistically, quite the opposite. Religious belief declines with intelligence and education.
That is statistics, of course. Nothing in that says an atheist cannot be unintelligent or that a fervent believer cannot be brilliant. But in any random sample, those with strong religious beliefs will have smaller numbers of brighter people.
Well, I know the Amish people, for example, are educated to the age of 11 - if they were further educated, they would learn to think critically, and begin to question their religion etc.. But this has nothing to do with actual intelligence.
The people who seek knowledge, know there is always more to learn, question the information they are give, seek more knowledge and never give up on making themselves better, never stop learning, never stop seeking.
To paraphrase my good friend Socrates, here is my answer...
The most intelligent among us are those who are fully aware of our own stupidity. For while most others think they are intelligent and are not as dumb as us, at least we are aware of our own ignorance.
Intelligence is vastly over rated, by the way. It won't get you friends. It won't necessarily make you money, won't help you to be happy.. The very brightest people are often unhappy, social misfits and do not do well financially.
Studies have shown that mild intelligence - less than "genius" level - is the best predictor of overall success and happiness. Smart enough to gain advantage in the games of life, not so smart as to find those games ludicrous.
The highly sucessful person you think is a blooming genius usually isn't
The smartest humans are those who are able to survive. Intelligence is a relative term and is measured differently among different societies and cultures. I'm pretty smart by American standards, but how long would I survive in the Amazon rain forest without help?
Don't really agree with this. Some people survive because they have to, not because they are intelligent. Some people survive because they steal. Is stealing intelligent? Some people survive by killing. Is murder intelligent? Granted, survival takes skills, not intelligence.
Anna: yep...lol and I said I'd offer a perfect answer (my answer) and we can have more fun ripping me up and serving me up as "chum" to attract more "white shark Qwark eating forum hubbers!" ...got it.? lol :-)
ok ...here is the PERFECT response: Q. Who is intelligent? A. Those people who are best PREPARED (operative word) to adapt and survive for as long as their genetic programming will allow! Who was the closest to my PERFECT answer? OH JEEEEEZZZZ! WHITE SHARK ATTACK! ALL QWARKS INTO THE BOAT...THAT'S AN ORDER!!!!!
Golly gee whiz! it seems that my list of those who have nothing credible or worthwhile to offer and deserve no future responses, is going to gain one more entrant...truth has just made the grade! Congrats truth! :-)
Hubbers, is the forum supposed to be both fun and educational and a place for friendly, maybe passionate debate? It is to me. Why do some seem to exhibit problems with their self esteem and want to accuse others of being arrogant and pedantic? It's, to me, disgusting, and the antithesis of the purpose of the "Hub furum." Am I wrong?
Oh, I think you should keep the discussion between you two. There's no need to call for public support just to make this favorable for you. But it's your call, I'm just saying this because I have nothing better to do at this moment. I'm not intelligent enough to find a decent occupation other than reading strangers arguing for nothing.
I actually think TruthDebater is right to some extent, looking objectively at his first message in this thread and not at the possible double meaning that bothered you. People, in many occasions, can show their intelligence by not assuming they are always right, indeed. Other hubbers have said it here in other words.
Those who agree with me are obviously intelligent, and most of those who do not agree with me are too inconsequential to matter. I have a problem with one hubber who does not agree with me but is clearly intelligent. I am working on him but he is not easy to convert. I have just not found the arguments that resonate with him. A possibility is that he is more intelligent than me. An alternative is that I am not as intelligent as I think I am - but if I were not intelligent I would realise it I think. Does the question mean intelligent or educated? There are PHDs - by definition intelligent and educated - whom I would not trust to walk a child across the road.
Hi Charles: Education is only a "facet" of my "macro" interpretation of "intelligence." We won't know if we are truly intelligent individuals until we reach our death beds. The human cell has a potential life span (currently) of about 170 yrs. Stresses reduce that length of time to an average of just a yr or 2 under 80. It is thought that about 1 out of every 4 Americans will now reach 100 years of life. My definition of intelligence is: the ability to use all of ones gained wisdom in life to live for as long as ones genetic programming will allow. The goal of all life is to survive. That is also an intrinsic, inherited "individual" goal. To live a life not dedicated to survival (and joy), to me would be the acme of ignorance. Thanks for the thoughtful response...:-)
LOL, does a near death experience qualify as reaching our death beds?
If the goal of all life is to survive, and that is a component of your "yardstick for intelligence" I've already beat the odds once by surviving cancer and now I use every means at my disposal (education, whole foods, etc., I will admit to a few vices however) to keep from ever going down that road again. But qwark, I really don't perceive that as particularly intelligent, just being resourceful, that's all.
Disturbia: Thanks. Congrats for surviving! "Resourceful" is most definitely an intrinsic facet of my "holistic" definition of "intelligence"...but ONLY a facet. Being "resourceful" takes education and common sense. These are all facets of the wisdom gained by living. The greater the "living' experiences, the greater can be the resources used to survive. Again, you are a survivor who "intelligently" used those resources necessary to save your precious life. I wish ya a long joyful life!:-)
Hahaha Pearl: I love Robin but "intelligence" as I view it? NOT! But he is a genius of sorts. What a mind and what an entertainer! He is uniquely blessed with a special talent rarely seen in any human culture.
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