Hey, I just thought of a great idea, after participating in one forum earlier. http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/52153
what if instead of allowing all hubbers to automatically publish hubs after they're written. maybe the hubpages staff should change that button to submit for publication. then this way, the hubpages staff can review it, and if they approve it, they'll publish it within 24 hours. this way, they can control content right from the get go, and we wouldn't have so many hubbers complain on how their hubs get unpublished for any misunderstandings. i know it'll be a lot of work for the hubpages staff, but i think it's worth looking into. what do you guys think?
I read that forum. I get your point and I understand what you're saying, but with all due respect, your idea just seems like more censorship to me. There is enough censorship here already.
Substandard hub, or TOS violation ,banning etc. will be rooted out, but that would be like mountains of work for the HP staff. I am not so sure they have that kind of time or staff, just one valid clarification takes a week for HP staff to answer.
I believe if people read and followed all the ground rules, much of these problems will be avoided. This will be too much policing!.
Check : typos.
Check : grammar.
Check : outgoing links.
Check : excessive promotion.
Check : layout.
Check : word count.
Check : sock puppet accounts.
Check: Writers Reputation.
Nah.. Quick Fix: Sell this place to Demand Studios.
There's over 100,000 hubbers and fewer than 10 HP staff. It's totally impractical. That's why they had to automate the process.
Not that many hubbers are complaining, when you look at the total picture.
only ten people? wow, i didn't know that the hubpages staff was rudemantally that small. i can see how my idea wouldn't be practical then, as i thought the staff was significantly larger than that. yeah, maybe pcunix has a point just to make it for first time hubbers, and hubbers that tend to publish too much controversial content can eventually go on probation. where for about a month they have to submit EVERYTHING to the hubpages staff until their probation is over. kind of a way to discourage controversial content. i think that could work then.
What's wrong with controversial?
I would only want to see this stop the call girls and straight up spammers.
by controversial, i meant by whatever hubbers keep consistantly violating the terms of agreement of google adsense and hubpages content policies. that's what i meant. not necessarily controversial subject matter like say religion or how there is a god or how there isn't one. or sex in general. no, no, no, i wasn't suggesting that at all. im sorry, i guess i should've made that more clear.
We do have a way to put users on probation (so that all of their content requires review before publication), and use it for those who consistantly violate our rules.
As people have pointed out, it would be impossible for us to review every hub before publication with our small staff. The moderation team makes up an even smaller part of the staff as a whole (which is mostly made up of engineers). We currently have one full-time moderator (Norah), one part-time moderator who does mostly emails (Mausmi), and one full-time Community Manager who does moderation + lots of other things (me). An average of 2000+ hubs are published each day. You do the math.
As far as call girl profiles and other blatant spam, we are constantly working to refine our filters to catch more and more of this stuff. Then the spammers adapt, then we further refine, and so around and around it goes.
How about new hubbers actually reading the sites faqs and T.O.S first and then get on with writing some stuff...simples!
I don't think it's a good idea, Steven. I like that I don't have some editor hovering over my work. I think what leebertea had problems with was a filtering issue as you suggested.
It would still be an awful lot of work for such a small number of people. Then Hubbers would be discouraged when it took a long time (esp over weekends) to be published. That is why I don't write as much for InfoBarrel or other sites. I like the instant gratification of push button publishing.
I see the wisdom in the suggestion here, but I think there's a chance, when it comes to the aim of that suggestion; it could backfire.
I like HubPages the way it is. Anyone who has spent much time writing according to guidelines or even writing to get past the editors on a fairly "casual" writing site, often welcomes the chance to "just write" and not get all involved with a bunch of other stuff. One reason I like HubPages is just that. I can see how if it turns into "yet another writing site" that's just like a lot of other ones, people may decide to do their own thing elsewhere.
I don't know... There's something to be said for "let the members have the control and the freedom, and let Nature take its course."
They should hire me to check them all, I now have my American work visa!
Spammers adapt, as Maddie stated...
Fix one problem, and another arises.
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