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  1. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    It would behoove HP to do a traffic check of the unpublished hubs…

    Not a joke.

    You might be very unpleasantly surprised.

    Have your delete hub button ready…

    1. relache profile image86
      relacheposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      And the reason you wouldn't contact the admin team directly with specific info about this is...?

      1. paradigmsearch profile image85
        paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I’ve concluded that they already know.

        Relache, I am really beginning to believe that you are stalking me… And that is not a joke. neutral

        1. relache profile image86
          relacheposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          In all honesty, I don't give a crap about you.  And that is not a joke.

          1. paradigmsearch profile image85
            paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Good. Then problem solved.

  2. KCC Big Country profile image85
    KCC Big Countryposted 6 years ago

    Can you elaborate on what the heck you're talking about?  Traffic on unpublished hubs?  That's just your own traffic or if you've published it before it's the traffic it had while being published and then now you've unpublished it.  I have several of those.  Why is this troublesome to you?

    1. paradigmsearch profile image85
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I’m not going to say how, but there is a “hack” whereas unpublished hubs (with porn or whatever else the author wants) are getting thousands of visits a day; and with Google ads showing.

  3. Ohma profile image79
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    Your own editing creates the views you are seeing before the hub is published.

  4. sunforged profile image74
    sunforgedposted 6 years ago

    why would you delete a hub with thousands of visits and google ads showing?

    1. Bill Manning profile image73
      Bill Manningposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I think he/she means hubs that have never been published yet?

      1. paradigmsearch profile image85
        paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this



        Correct, the hub is never published.

        The author just sets up his little porn page and goes into business.

        1. Bill Manning profile image73
          Bill Manningposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Well if that's true, they are not going to make much having an adult site on hubpages. smile

          1. Pcunix profile image89
            Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            If he is correct (and I am not doubting it), it would give someone a partial safe haven host that could be spam linked from elsewhere.

            But it would be noticed and taken down eventually.

      2. sunforged profile image74
        sunforgedposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Have your delete hub button ready

  5. frogdropping profile image86
    frogdroppingposted 6 years ago

    How the heck can you manage to publish without publishing? Not that I'm asking exactly, thinking aloud.

    Wow para. How did you stumble onto this?

    1. paradigmsearch profile image85
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I've known the "hack" for a long time, but the evil uses for it did not occur to me until today.

  6. KCC Big Country profile image85
    KCC Big Countryposted 6 years ago

    Several questions come to mind....how do you know this?  Then, how does one view an unpublished hub?  Unpublished hubs do not have ads.  They just show blocks where they will be.

    1. paradigmsearch profile image85
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I've known the "hack" for a long time, but the evil uses for it did not occur to me until today.

      Google ads will show on unpublished hubs when accessed a certain way.

  7. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I'm really surprised that HP hasn't jumped into this thread yet.

  8. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I’m guessing that HP already knows the “hack” and already does the aforementioned traffic checks.

    If not, they can drop me a note. smile

  9. sunforged profile image74
    sunforgedposted 6 years ago

    Alright spill the beans, show an example

    1. paradigmsearch profile image85
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      LOL, it would be fun to show off; but HP doesn't need the additional work load it would cause by making this common knowledge.

  10. darkside profile image78
    darksideposted 6 years ago

    9 out of 10 hubbers posting in this thread are totally confused. And I'm one of them.

    An unpublished hub is not seen by ANYONE outside the hubber who owns it.

    If you go here http://hubpages.com/hub/trackers you'll see an unpublished hub. It'll say "No longer published" even if it has never been published.

    No ads will be on it. You don't even know who claimed the URL.

    Unless I'm missing something, I've got no idea how it can be a problem.

  11. KCC Big Country profile image85
    KCC Big Countryposted 6 years ago

    So, what was your reason for making the possibility common knowledge?  I agree with Relache, why didn't you notify HP when you first discovered the "hack"?  I realize you just figured out there might be some bigger issues with it, but why not notify HP? Why come to an open forum and toss it out there and then refuse to back it up?

    1. paradigmsearch profile image85
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this



      I've known it for months, but didn't think of it as a hack



      All my OP essentially said was to do a traffic search on unpublished hubs and that there might be a problem.

      The unexpected, uncontrolled, resulting thread did indeed cause the common knowledge problem you mentioned. For that I am sorry.

  12. Len Cannon profile image89
    Len Cannonposted 6 years ago

    This reminds me of the naked Lara Croft cheat rumors back in the day.

  13. darkside profile image78
    darksideposted 6 years ago

    I once discovered that there was an issue with the tracking stats. I could see other peoples referrals if I knew the name of their tracker. I informed HP HQ of it and the first response was that I could only see my own.

    I responded and said no, I can see "name of other hubber here" who I selected as an example.

    The response was quick and along the lines of "you shouldn't be able to see that!".

    It was quickly fixed.

    Glitches happen, and probably best avoiding the forum and informing HP HQ of the matter directly.

    But I am wondering, given the sparse details you've given, if you would see the same result if you weren't logged in.

    1. paradigmsearch profile image85
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I will check!

    2. paradigmsearch profile image85
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Here is something that I don't know the answer to...

      I signed out.

      With one browser the hub was inaccessible.

      With another browser the hub was completely accessible.

      I have no idea why.

      1. Pcunix profile image89
        Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Caching.

        1. paradigmsearch profile image85
          paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I'm 99% sure that's not it, but I hope you're right.

          I'm going to sign-out again and check something else.

          1. Pcunix profile image89
            Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Flush your cache, exit the browser and  come back.  It's rather hard to explain what you said happened without cache.

      2. darkside profile image78
        darksideposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Did you sign out of your account from both browsers?

  14. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 6 years ago

    This post might just show that I don't understand the OP, but...

    If an unpublished hub gets thousands of views a day, then some people must be able to view it. You being one.

    But if you can view a hub, how do you know it's unpublished and how many views it gets a day?

    1. Pcunix profile image89
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Your stats page shows all that.

    2. paradigmsearch profile image85
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      The "thousands of views" is what HP is supposed to check for. That would be a quick way to see which unpublished hubs are being utilized in this fashion.

      The knowing it was unpublished was because it was one of my own (no thousands of views there...smile)

      PS

      Darkside is on to something.

      1. darkside profile image78
        darksideposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What did you see when you visited the page when you were logged out?

    3. darkside profile image78
      darksideposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It could mean that there is traffic, but it's going to an unpublished page. HP stats will still count the pageviews because the page (URL) has been opened, but it's not content being viewed, or ads.

  15. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I'm back, let me check something else first.

  16. Mikeydoes profile image80
    Mikeydoesposted 6 years ago

    He knows a way to get unpublished hubs viewed, thats pretty cool. Whether its through a different website or what, who knows.

    I like that he isn't spilling the beans, but he should totally tell me. My lips are sealed.

  17. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 6 years ago

    So could this mean that there was a hub that was once published, got viewed and stored in a browser's cache, then got unpublished and when viewing the stored version paradigmsearch thought he was viewing an unpublished hub (in real time)?

    1. Pcunix profile image89
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No, I'm assuming he viewed it while logged in.

  18. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    .
    SUCCESS!
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    The hub is now unviewable in the second browser.

    I'm going to bed! smile

    1. darkside profile image78
      darksideposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      So you were either logged in, or it was your cache?

      No one else can see it.

      1. Pcunix profile image89
        Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah, that's what I figured.  As to the post that originally inspired this, I don't know if he is seeing cache or is just very confused about something else.

        1. darkside profile image78
          darksideposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          By the looks of the conversation in that other thread I think he's just seeing his own unpublished hub while being logged in and making a big deal out of nothing.

          Not sure how he thinks he's going to make money from a 122 word unpublished hub, but he seems to think it's going to work for him.

  19. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 6 years ago

    Good night, sleep tight! smile

  20. sofs profile image88
    sofsposted 6 years ago

    Wow the whole thing sounded so mysterious!! roll

  21. Whitney05 profile image65
    Whitney05posted 6 years ago

    Glad ya'll figured something out because after reading this entire post, I'm still confused. Sounds like a mess of nothing.

 
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