This suggestion is not one I wish to incorporate in the current debate which has spread over Hubpages like wildfire. It is, however, a serious suggestion- one I hope gets at least a little thought.
What would it take to have a Hubpages affiliated site which featured only adult content?
Age verification would be an issue, though your disclaimers and terms of service cover you against children using Hubpages in that all who are registered to the site must be 18. So, why not incorporate a process wherein either an AVS is used, or- a more time consuming solution- registering to the AHP (Adult Hubpages) requires each registrant to fax or snail mail a photocopy of their ID and a form asserting that they are who they say they are.
Non-Adult content could be shuffled off here through deactivating mainstream hubs and urging them to post their mainstream content here on Hubpages.
Likewise, adult content (or content which comes very very close) could be shuffled off toward AHP.
Just a suggestion for the hat box.
Thank you for all that you folks do, every day, every week, every hour, to keep Hubpages up and running and available for people to enjoy.
Thanks so much for this suggestion! I think it would solve a lot of this issue if this could be done! Holding my breath for this to go through!
This is a good solution, it would probably stop the debate.
Hubpages used to allow adult content and had adult ads running on that content. Obviously, it wasn't something they wanted to continue -- my guess would be it wasn't cost effective.
Great idea Gamergirl. Shift all the adult stuff onto...smutpages.com? and make hubpages family friendly.
LOL in the process of research I googled an adult term the other night - you can be assured that nothing on HP is even close to adult or explicit- and I am not just talking full front nudity here - waaaay more explicit than that- lets put this way if you didn't know how adults did that act u would have in 5 minutes flat - this was not pay per view, membership or anything like that - just straight off google.com - so maybe there is a niche for very very soft porn - which would be HP Xrated - lots of competition for the keywords though
Lissie please email me that link...for research of course!
I thought the reason adult Hubs were banned was because Adsense won't allow them. If HP were going to create a separate adults only site, they would have to find some other source of ad revenue because they couldn't use Adsense.
Not true. Adult hubs, back then, were running ads from different advertisers(ad companies). But the revenue was not worth the effort, I guess. In any case those pages helped HP to gather some great traffic numbers in the initial stages.
Yes, but HP is PAST the initial stages now. If this is a site which children are encouraged to visit to gather information, they don't need to be running into "sexy" sites.
I agree that another place to put that kind of thing would be best for everyone. If it's a site that can pull in traffic, advertisers will come--wheither the visitors to the site would be interested in clicking on the ads is something else. But I bet if they were ads to parallel the porn site, the visitor would click through.
I believe that if HP wants to keep growing as a user friendly "G" rated site, it must adapt a new policy.
That's news to me: I don't write with kids in mind and have no intention of doing so: if parents don't know how to install net nanny or whatever its called these days and supervise their kids on the internet its really not my problem.
G is boring as far as I am concerned: US G is about a 10year old G for the rest of the world. Should I not have published a hub on very alcoholic drinks because a 16 year old may get plastered on a cocktail? An ad for Asian ladies Marriage is pretty mild: lets put it this way one of the most often searched terms on google at 3am EST hot sexy a..l and I don't think those sites are within the Adense TOS!
I am tired of all of this, but I just need to point out that the ads that are currently on the sexy photo gallery hubs are already pushing the edge: "rate my boobs," is one ad. "sexual intercourse" is another ad. "teenage girls in bras" is yet another. We can certainly see the intended audience of the hubs based on the ads. I am sure that these adult hub hubbers would find a source of revenue, as would HP, if they were split off. Adsense appears to be providing a pretty reliable source of ads of a risque nature.
I imagine that if Adsense is not allowed on porn sites, there will be a Pornsense equivalent. There is way too much money in that industry for the advertising industry to ignore it.
THE most often searched word on every single search engine is "sex".
Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time writing about money, cars and computers ... sigh ... maybe I should entitle my next Hub "Sexy Hot Credit Cards" or something.
There is actually a HUGE market for adult advertising. With the ability to create something as massive as Hubpages but for the adult industry, I don't think it would be too far-fetched to say that Hubpages the company could afford the loss of Adsense in that most adult webmasters have their fingers in many pies (no pun intended) and are generally used to waiting for profits to increase on a new site.
gamer I am in!...let me be part of your porn empire...can we tell my mom it is a top secret government site so she won't bug me to see it?
I think strictly 18+ material shouldn't be associated with Hubpages at all. It lowers net standards with most people. It also cuts traffic down on younger searchers who link by Google and browsers like stumble. I think a whole side company, no relations to Hubpages is the best answer.
Here's the thread from 11 months ago that announced HubPages decision on Adult Hubs: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/508
Actually.. that thread has been linked a few times since I joined Hubpages, SunSeven. So there's a chance that newbies HAVE read it, I'm sure. At least a few of them.
Besides, a lot can change in the course of 11 months. Obviously, there are plently of Hub Authors who feel that sexy actress gallery type hubs are within the terms of service, no matter how provocative, but there are and increasing number of Hub Authors who believe that these kinds of Hubs are detrimental to the spirit of the site and have found themselves enjoying Hubpages less as a result.
Nonetheless, the suggestion remains, and honestly the only reason I posted it on the forum is so that other members could see the idea I had and know it'd been suggested.
I've never seen it, and I've pretty much read all of the complaints about the "sexy" hubs.
I don't think the "adult" hubs shuold be allowed in terms of full nudity, and they're not. But, I don't have problems with the partially nude photos like some people's boob hubs. I just make a point not to look at them.
I do think that if people are going to do that style of hub, they should be required to have a semi-classy title versus "rate my boobs" or whatever.
It's a good suggestion as it's probably the better one's I've seen, but I agree with those who were here when adult was allowed. It was tried, and opted otherwise, so leave things as is. I just say that a stronger restriction on the title or something of the boob hubs, as the title alone proves "low quality work ahead," in my books.
I think hubpages team must have unpublished all the adult content as its announced there.
Is it possible to have the 'X' rated stuff stored in a place on it's own? Sorry, I don't know how to say it in tech terms.
When a person publishes a hub, there would be a place to indicate that it's adult and would not be mixed in with the regular hubs. If a reader wanted to access the adult content, they would be presented with a screen that requires the reader to 'promise' that they are over 18 before being allowed access.
I don't know about this stuff, maybe that's even more of a pain in the butt than a separate site.
Is anybody else getting tired of discussing this? It doesn't seem to do anything but cause disagreements between nice people.
Hubpages terms of service require that all Hub Authors be 18 years of age. A Hub Author appears to be defined as someone who has registered a username on the site.
Yes, adult content was unpublished at that time. My suggestion came on the heels of watching my friends here at Hubpages, as well as people to whom I know only from seeing their forum posts in passing, discuss the 'hot topic' of sexy hub galleries for a bit now.
I know they all are , but there's been mentioned several times about children and potentially offended clients reading them, so I mean that the readers would go to a different section if they want to read (look at) that content.
Don't think I'm doing a very good job of explaining myself, sorry.
As a community, a website, a service, and a business, I invite you to publish Hubs on topics that are safe for all viewers.
I think that this being straight from the horse's mouth expresses it all. SAFE FOR ALL VIEWERS. We are asking that this rule be adhered to. Can't understand why that is so wrong of us to ask. I have seen this brought up more than once lately and every time it seems that the one that brings it up is told (in so many words) to shut up and go away if they don't like it. After some exchanging of words, it is swept under the rug once again and things just continue to progress. I simply think that there are many people here who have now become sick of being told to keep quiet while we watch the "supposedly" family friendly community go to the smut-mungers!
A year ago when Paul made that statement HubPages had a fair amount of extremely graphic X-Rated content on it. In that context, I don't believe he meant "safe for all viewers" to imply that all content on HubPages would be G-Rated going forward.
In its present state, I think many parents would be comfortable allowing their 12 year old children to browse the site. I suspect that most 12 year olds are capable of finding far worse with a couple of Google searches than they'll ever find on HubPages. But ultimately, we think it's the parents' responsibility to supervise their children's internet activity.
You certainly have the right to advocate for whatever changes you'd like to see in the policies of HubPages. As long as you aren't breaking any of our rules, we're not going to stop you from posting hubs, comments, or discussing it in the forums. By the same token, other people in the community have the right to respond to your arguments as they see fit (again subject to the rules of HubPages).
Amen. Someone should make this a sticky.
Yes. This statement alone, definitely deserves a sticky.
I rly wish the confrontation about what people think HP should do about their opinion of adult would stop. It's getting ridiculous and repetitive.
It's ok Shirley, it's a groggy Monday morning for me, so don't blame yourself.
I'm going to put my 2 cents in here- I think some of these soft porn hubs are stepping over the line. Over at Yuwie, where I do alot of social networking, members (affiliates) get banned for posting anything sexual ( not like MySpace where everything seems to be OK)
At Yuwie they have the chance to clean up their profile or risk being locked out forever ( their profile is temporarily locked to begin with- then giving them a chance to fix the problem)
This has cut down on alot of garbage at Yuwie, which is nice to go there and not see peoples stuff hanging out all over the place. There are plenty of other sites for that- (I won't mention names)
The thing that I am concerned about is not even so much that it bothers me- but I know without a fact that the soft porn would bother some of my readers.
One person I know in particular, a friend, has an issue with porn addiction so he deliberately avoids sites that could be a problem for him, I would feel bad if he came here and saw an article like "rate my boobs". I think that is in very poor taste and don't think blatant titles with nipples showing is appropriate. I honestly think that some of the Indian women hubs are done is good taste ( at least the ones I've looked at) From what I have seen they are beautiful women appropriately covered, maybe the titles are misleading if anything ( maybe I just haven't seen any that I would call soft porn either) There is a difference in posting pretty women and posting a pic of a woman with her hand on her crotch ( excuse the blatant remark but that's what it is so call it like it is)
Yes I made 2 of my own "sexy" hubs- which started out as parodies- they were tastefully done - no body seeing too much of anybody ( except for the last pic of Misha- lol... but not really you know what I mean). Some people are doing this to be sensationalists and get shock value and I don't think that's the image that HubPages wants. Just my 2 (10) cents............
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