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Stop following hubbers just so they'll follow you back...

  1. Bendo13 profile image86
    Bendo13posted 6 years ago

    In my years on this site I have seen so many people randomly follow me in hopes that I follow them back.  And then as soon as I do, if the topics they write on interest me, they delete me from the hubbers they're following?

    Do you guys really think this makes people want to read and comment on your hubs?

    I had one guy on here even leave me fan mail and then when I clicked to follow him.. poof he's gone from my followers!  How do I know?

    Well every time I end up in the top could pages of hubbers with a score of 99 to 100 this guy adds me back to the hubbers he's following!  So the last time he did it I send him a message telling him to stop and he no longer accepts messages.

    I'm only mentioning this because I hit my 500th follower today and was quite pleased... even followed the 500th person and thanked them... HubPages sent me an email alerting me of the milestone... I go look at my profile again and nope... one of the people who just added me recently (I have a hub score of 99 today) deleted themselves!

    Following someone just so they follow you back isn't going to get you a quality following and might look nice as a number on your profile but really people... stop doing this!

    1. yolanda yvette profile image61
      yolanda yvetteposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, that's tacky.  And asinine.

      Just like some people who you see filling up page after page of hubtivity following everybody they can find.  It's not a good look.

      1. Bendo13 profile image86
        Bendo13posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah I'll have to start doing what wilderness does and check first to see if they write on topics that interest me (as I always do anyway) and THEN scroll down and see if they've followed like 10 people back to back.

    2. profile image0
      cookingdivaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Does having more followers is good? I am new but some of followers I have do not leave comments on my hubs or possibly read my writing.

      I got one follower and one left me. Maybe something I wrote they did not like or maybe they are just trying to simplify I am not sure. I am rather bit confused about it all.

      Bendo13, I suppose I would not like it, if people only followed me so I will follow them and then drop following.

      1. Bendo13 profile image86
        Bendo13posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah it's good to have followers that comment on what you write, helps get the conversation going.

        If there's no interaction between you and your followers then it's not that beneficial for either of you.

    3. guymclaren profile image60
      guymclarenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Being a relative noob to Hubs, I will only be following people that contribute value to me. I only expect you to follow me if I add value to yours. I use the same principal on Twitter, facebook and other social media sites that I frequent. I follow those that interest me. Reciprocal following is folly. I have no need to have twenty thousand hundred followers or a need to follow eleventy hundred that I am unable to pay attention to.

      If you follow me hoping for a reciprocal, you better have something interesting to offer

    4. Dave Mathews profile image60
      Dave Mathewsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      How else do you get fans reading your Hubs??

      1. Pcunix profile image87
        Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        They find them.

        People notice you in the forums and will check you out. I have found Hubbers I follow that way but also found at least two because of Google searches I did.

        I also check out those who leave intelligent comments.  Well, heck, I check out those who leave foolish comments too, but not because I expect to follow them smile

        1. lyndre profile image82
          lyndreposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Agree with you.Let your hubs do the talking.

          But I would like to put a twist to the subject.

          Most of the posters have followers in the 3 figures.

          How many hubbers do you follow? and do you think there is a link?

          You can see on my avatar how many followers I have and I follow only 20 hubbers at the moment.

          1. Pcunix profile image87
            Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I follow 186.

            I don't know if that helps or hurts your theory.

            1. lyndre profile image82
              lyndreposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks for the figures.I thought there might be a link, but Website Examiner just blow that idea right out the water lol

              1. profile image0
                Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Sorry, I had written and then deleted the post that I follow less than 10 hubbers. I think following others is an easy way to get started, other methods may require more activity.

      2. Brie Hoffman profile image81
        Brie Hoffmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        A lot of hubber read the hubs and if they like what you write they will follow you.  That's what I do, I never follow someone just because they are following me.

        1. Dave Mathews profile image60
          Dave Mathewsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I have over two hundred followers whose hubs I read when I receive them. Some are on Christian faith like most of mine are but others have different interests. A lot of what they  write I find interesting and all that I read I will leave a brief comment for. This saves me having to hunt down new readers, instead they come to me to see what I am all about, and I might refer some writings to friends I know would find theme interesting. It's sort of a mutual admiration society.

      3. Aficionada profile image93
        Aficionadaposted 6 years ago in reply to this



        I would actually prefer to have organic traffic (rather than fellow Hubbers) reading my Hubs.  I DO appreciate very much the Hubber-traffic and their comments, though!  Comments help to keep content fresh and noticed by Google.  And they can be very affirming - sometimes lol.

        I don't do nearly enough reading of the people I follow or who follow me. (Sorry, followers and "followees" hmm !) I tend to read more when I see something interesting on the front page (unsigned-in) of HP and an occasional interesting title in Hubtivity.

    5. David 470 profile image88
      David 470posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I think people I have done this to me before...

  2. KCC Big Country profile image84
    KCC Big Countryposted 6 years ago

    Can I follow you because I want to see you back at 500?  (Too bad, I did it anyway).

    1. Bendo13 profile image86
      Bendo13posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Haha thanks!  Not really what I expected but I do hope that this fad dies off... People should aim to communicate back and forth.

  3. Mikeydoes profile image78
    Mikeydoesposted 6 years ago

    Yeah, I'm not sure what is up with those people, like it is a game or something.

    1. Bendo13 profile image86
      Bendo13posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Hubbers, mon... gotta collect them all! haha

      Good to see that the forums are alive and well though!

  4. wilderness profile image97
    wildernessposted 6 years ago

    Nice to see that someone else feels the same.  Every time I hit 100 I get a handful of followers.  I usually check their activity and if I find they have just followed a bunch of people I ignore it. 

    If not, and their hubs sound interesting I'll check out a couple or so and maybe follow them, maybe not.

    Don't know if anyone has stopped following me, though - I just don't pay that much attention to the numbers there.

    1. Rochelle Frank profile image89
      Rochelle Frankposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Just so you know-- I bumped you up to 300.

  5. relache profile image89
    relacheposted 6 years ago

    I never ever follow someone just because they followed me.  If I'm going to follow someone, it's because I like the majority of what they write, not just a Hub or two.

    And that method has not impeded me in any way from getting followers of my own.  Stop obsessing about followers and just leave them to do their thing for their reasons.  Making Hubs and following people whose work you genuinely like is so much more productive.

    1. Bendo13 profile image86
      Bendo13posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yep!  I just write and write and the followers come because they're interested.

      I usually only follow people if they write about fitness, internet marketing or traveling since that's what I write about most of the time and I'm actually interested in it.

    2. Debby Bruck profile image86
      Debby Bruckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Good answer. I haven't noticed this type of activity on Hubpages. I just have my regular friends and those I admire. Trickery here and on Twitter used to be commonplace. Follow-Unfollow. I don't bother with it and just stick to the high road.

  6. Mikeydoes profile image78
    Mikeydoesposted 6 years ago

    followers don't pay the bills, google does.

    1. Bendo13 profile image86
      Bendo13posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yep! and your followers aren't normally your "clickers" that's why I don't get why people do this.

      I'm happy with my slow increase of followers because they read almost everything I post.  I love quality back and forth in the comments.

      1. profile image0
        Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        At this point, I will go once a week and check to see who has followed me. I will then go through their work. If I like what they write, or if I can learn from them, I will follow them.

        However, it is something I've learned to check. I don't want followers who are just hoping I'm going to click back. smile I just delete them if I see that.

        Same thing on facebook.

        They're only kidding themselves anyway!

  7. WryLilt profile image87
    WryLiltposted 6 years ago

    Yep I get sick of people doing that. Fortunately I don't notice anymore, since I seem to pick up about 10-15 followers per week. I don't even look at the names anymore, since only about 1 of those followers will bother to leave a comment.

    If they leave comments I try and reply or have a look at their hubs, but otherwise I just ignore them. Too many bad apples out there.

    EDIT: I just added the following message to my profile, which I plan to enforce:

    Please note that any fan mail or comments you leave for me that request mutual reciprocation will be deleted, as I consider this very rude and bad etiquette.

    1. Bendo13 profile image86
      Bendo13posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      A good note to have... I noticed that some of my "fan mail" was asking me to add them and rate up their hubs.

      I like things to build naturally, I guess others like to try to cheat the system... even though it won't do them any good.

  8. Lisa HW profile image82
    Lisa HWposted 6 years ago

    The only "investigating" I do if someone news shows up as a follower is to check out their Hubs to see if they write about stuff I think is the kind of stuff I generally like to read.  Stuff I "generally like to read" is a pretty narrow kind of writing, though (at least for my purposes on here).  Still, I'm always interested in seeing new stuff that might interest me run by me.  I don't want to be taking time to see who has what hubtivity etc. etc. to get a reading on whether it's a "real" follower or just someone looking for more followers himself. 

    Since there's the follower thing, I'd kind of like it if we knew that followers were really interested in what we write.  I know that x percent is (but don't know what that "x percent" amounts to).  That's not how it is, though - and that's OK too, I guess.  The only ones I don't want are the really, really, obviously, spammy ones (and it doesn't take any investigating to see the kind I mean).  I figure, if someone thinks I'll automatically follow them, if I don't, and they stop being a "follower" - that's fine too.  The only thing I pay much attention to in the "follower-type department" is when someone sends what seems like a genuine compliment as "fan mail".  It's nice of people to be bothered sending that kind of message.

    In fairness to some of those people who follower and then say, "Now look at my Hubs,"  (hmm)   I think a lot of them come from other sites that operate that way.  They just may not realize it's not how things are generally supposed to be done on this site.  I don't know...   I'm not sure those "bad apples" need anyone to look at their Hubs or follow them back in order to do their "bad apple-ing".   hmm

  9. liswilliams profile image59
    liswilliamsposted 6 years ago

    Yeah, I stopped following people back now who have 1 hub and 50 followers. That's not the way you build up a fan base guys

  10. Mark Ewbie profile image84
    Mark Ewbieposted 6 years ago

    I came here from a brief spell at Facebook where it seemed having lots of friends was the deal.  No.  They just bombarded me with marketing stuff.

    So having arrived here I have not played the follower game.  I follow a few - some of the most successful because I want to learn, and one or two that I like in terms of forum interaction and their hub quality / interest to me.

    I am new, but I am not sure that the number of followers adds anything to the hits on your hub pages, or your hub/author score - and it certainly doesn't add anything to earnings.

    In some ways it is misleading - because if I take out hubpage traffic and get a clearer picture of who is visiting my pages - t'aint many.

    Finally - I'll just apologise to those who have followed me and I haven't followed back.  It isn't meant to be rude - I'm just not into that stuff.

    1. Karanda profile image83
      Karandaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      That's alright Ewbie, I'd follow you anywhere, 'cos you make me laugh. lol

      1. Mark Ewbie profile image84
        Mark Ewbieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You're very kind, and I am flattered and all those things.

        It's just I do not have time to follow and read stuff much.  Honest.

  11. profile image69
    logic,commonsenseposted 6 years ago

    I only follow those I find interesting.  Sometimes I leave a comment, sometimes not, depending on my time available and my motivtation.
    Don't worry about my score or if anyone follows me.  Appreciate it when they do and more so if they leave a comment, but hey que sera sera.

  12. sofs profile image86
    sofsposted 6 years ago

    I hardly follow anyone so my numbers keep going up and down.. I don't follow people just because they follow me.. it is crazy for I cant honestly do justice to everyone, though I try to leave comments once in a while for the people I like to follow and read..

  13. Pandoras Box profile image82
    Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago

    I feel guilty sometimes about my lackadaisical attitude towards following people. I definitely don't bother following back the friend-reapers who follow dozens of hubbers at a time.

    But there are alot of people here I would follow, mostly forums people, and I always meant to get around to following, but never really quite did.

    So I must add you all to my list.

    When you check my hubtivity and see I've been fanning hubbers at a rate of 17.6 a minute, don't think I'm a creepy friend-reaper!

    Just kidding. I've only ever got time to do a few.

  14. Urbane Chaos profile image90
    Urbane Chaosposted 6 years ago

    I have a philosophy: I simply don't follow people unless they are either interesting or have something interesting to read. I figure that's the whole reason for the button being there in the first place.

    1. Dame Scribe profile image60
      Dame Scribeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      lol good philosophy but I also like to hope that I provide something they enjoy. smile

  15. Maria Cecilia profile image82
    Maria Ceciliaposted 6 years ago

    First I want to ask how do you find out about followers the quit following you? It happened to me a week a go, when I hit my 98 followers, somebody just quit following me, it happened to me twice.

    But then I only follow when their hubs is very interesting and helpful to me, I wish I could follow all those who follow me just to show my gratitude but looks like following almost every one here is not  good for the hubber...

    1. profile image0
      Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You may want to call the mental asylums and morgues for recent admissions. Other than that, there is no way to find out. Once a hubber has left, all traces of them having been a follower are removed from hubtivity. You would have to keep manual logs.

      1. Pcunix profile image87
        Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You can look in your Hubtivity for "is following you" and check them, but it doesn't seem interesting enough to be worth the effort.

        1. profile image0
          Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yes and no, since the "following you" entries are deleted retroactively once somebody leaves as a follower.

          1. Pcunix profile image87
            Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Ahh.  I wouldn't have expected that.

            But as we mostly all seem to agree, who cares?  It's unimportant.

            1. profile image0
              Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              That is a good attitude, although not universally shared. Some people take it personally or wonder why it happened.

            2. Maria Cecilia profile image82
              Maria Ceciliaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Pcunix you are right who cares?

              W.E. I think I had known one who reacted when he thought somebody quit following him

              1. profile image0
                Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                You are talking about me. I do care, and I think one can sometimes learn from knowing why someone has decided to stop following.

  16. Maria Cecilia profile image82
    Maria Ceciliaposted 6 years ago

    Another thing, I hope I won't get misinterpreted, most of the hubbers that I follow are fellow animal/dog lovers, so inviting some to visit my hub so that they can meet my dogs is automatic to me...but the thought here is not the "I am following you now so you must follow me", it's more on talking to someone with the same passion so we share notes about our dog...

  17. Glemoh101 profile image59
    Glemoh101posted 6 years ago

    How many followers im allowed to follow per day ?

    1. profile image0
      Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      As many as you like, provided you do not use automated scripts or software to do that. But following other hubbers indiscriminately may hurt your author score.

      http://hubpages.com/faq/#fanclub

  18. Pcunix profile image87
    Pcunixposted 6 years ago

    Even my children knew not to follow me.

    Though that had more to do with us being off on vacation and their mother and I trying to decipher a map to get somewhere we wanted to go. The youngest, then perhaps 8 or so, added her opinion: "Don't follow Dad, he has no idea where he is going."

    That is excellent advice for anyone tempted to follow me here.  It is indeed a wise child who knows her father.

  19. evvy_09 profile image79
    evvy_09posted 6 years ago

    When I first got here I'd always follow people back, but now I rarely follow anyone.  I like to leave occasional comments on the hubs of the people I follow. Get too many and its hard to do. The are a few more hubbers I would like to follow but I haven't yet.
    How do you delete fan mail?  I got some that is basically says "Hey I'm following you now check out my hub"

    1. profile image0
      Website Examinerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      From your control panel, click Fan Mail, then "deny." You can delete it permanently, and it will evaporate. Fan mail will not appear to begin with unless you have approved it.

    2. Pcunix profile image87
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Click "Fan Mail" and "Deny" the stuff you do not like.

      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/4366209_f248.jpg

      1. Dame Scribe profile image60
        Dame Scribeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Not sure I want to 'Lick' da screen tongue lol, just teasing smile oops...nm lol you changed it, lol

        1. Pcunix profile image87
          Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I'm sure you will find it quite tasty if you first go to the Food hubs..

          1. Dame Scribe profile image60
            Dame Scribeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I so love checking out different foods too smile

    3. Dame Scribe profile image60
      Dame Scribeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Oh that is annoying hmm like you owe them now. I know what you mean tongue

  20. evvy_09 profile image79
    evvy_09posted 6 years ago

    Thanks Pcunix and website examiner.  Poor stinky cow guy (name changed to protect identity). He is deleted tongue
    But darn, there are so many comments on that one hub. More than all my hubs combined. sad

  21. Mark Ewbie profile image84
    Mark Ewbieposted 6 years ago

    I hardly follow anyone - 6 I think.  A lot will think it's rude.  But I think the point of following is to at least occasionally read their hubs, maybe comment, have some point to it.

    I don't have time to read much stuff, it's not why I'm here.

    So apologies to all those who try the follow me, follow back thing - it ain't going to work.

    Also I only accept fan mail that I think looks cool on my profile.  So intelligent, attractive writer is IN - but other stuff isn't.

    Dunno why I'm being honest.  Get a bit tired of the clubby nature of things sometimes - if you like it fine - if you like it because you want me to join the liking circle - nah.

    And as I am discovering.  Hubbers don't pay the bills.  Internal traffic, likes, comments and popularity mean nothing to Adsense.

    1. brandonhart100 profile image83
      brandonhart100posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Wow looks like you have 70 more followers 3 weeks after this post!  This could be a great tactic in itself!  As far as hubbers visiting pages I think any traffic is "good" traffic.

      1. Pcunix profile image87
        Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I lost two just between my first post in this thread today and now smile

        1. evvy_09 profile image79
          evvy_09posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I lost 8 or more this week.

          1. warchild75 profile image44
            warchild75posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I win some and then i lose some,im quite stubborn though and will only follow someone if they write hubs im interested in otherwise i dont bother!!

            1. Pcunix profile image87
              Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Exactly.  So if some (unflattering adjective deleted) person follow and then unfollows, either because I didn't follow or they don't like my politics, so what?  No loss at all.

          2. Winterfate profile image98
            Winterfateposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Who in the world would unfollow you? You're awesome! I need to go leave your hubs more love. ;P

            1. evvy_09 profile image79
              evvy_09posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks winterfate.  Happy Hubbirthday too!

              http://s2.hubimg.com/u/4005161.jpg

              1. Winterfate profile image98
                Winterfateposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Aww thanks a bunch! big_smile

                *nom noms cupcake*

          3. Debby Bruck profile image86
            Debby Bruckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Aw... that is sad.

  22. evvy_09 profile image79
    evvy_09posted 6 years ago

    Just got another follower that is following hubbers like crazy. lol

  23. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

    I've had some demand I follow them when they follow me. Do I? Not likely smile

    1. Druid Dude profile image59
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      How does this joker know what anyone is thinking? Someone follows me, i check them out. If I like what I read, I follow. That is probably why they began to follow me. Besides, ever hear of COMMON COURTESY?

  24. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 6 years ago

    I think I don't give a rat's ass about what you think whom should or should not I follow smile

  25. melbel profile image91
    melbelposted 6 years ago

    There are only two reasons I follow someone: I like what they are writing OR I want to learn from their good hubbing skills so I kind of learn their style, but mostly because I like their stuff. I don't care if I follow more people who follow me or if I follow less, I just follow what I like and not because of some trend. I hope that the people who follow me do so because they either want to learn from me or they enjoy my work.

 
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