Not sure which category I should put this in
I have recently discovered two interesting ways of writing hubs
1. All gemstone jewelry hubs are written the same way, talking about only ebay buying, tons of wasteful and useless words such as "take a look at ...on the right", "you can see the current bid...", "ebay is the best place to shop for jewelry" (really?), "they have a large listing...", stuff like that. That's perfectly fine to write one hub or two using such language, but all hubs from that author have been written exactly the same way, pretty much just replaced "this jewelry name" with "that jewelry name". No quality whatsoever, yet they are still overall "considered" (by the hubpages system) high quality.
2. Moment ago, I found someone (must be from China based on his hubber name) "wrote" a bunch of hubs in such low quality, that it is simply so obvious that all his hubs were done by using online language tool to translate stuff written in his own language, then he just merely pasted the result here to make it a hub. Yet few of his hubs I checked have pretty good score such as around 75. This is purely ridiculous. I can't even understand what his hubs are saying, they are not English, period!
As a comparison, the few hubs for book reviews written by my daughter (with serious effort) are now sitting at around 60, because they have very little to 0 traffic
I wonder whether hubpages team could come up with better ways to detect low quality and high quality hubs? Long hubs don't necessarily mean they have high quality; low traffic hubs don't necessarily mean they are low quality.
That's why hub hopping properly is so important. Non English or barely English spun content should be flagged immediately - in my opinion. As should obviously cut and pasted content - it's not too hard to spot.
Hubpages has an integrity to protect, and it is in all our interests to make sure we have genuine original 'proper' authors writing.
As for creating software to do it. I guess that's kind of hard to do.
edit: Oh yeah. When you spot garbage it's not a bad idea to check out the author too, they sometimes have half a dozen similar hubs all created within a short space of time. Flag them too.
I like what you said, Mark, especially the last couple of sentences, indeed as what you described, both authors had exactly the same pattern - all hubs were written in short period of time, one of them wrote all about gemstones. Not sure what they think of this kind of hubs. When it comes to mutual benefits, it is especially hard to tell. Flag them may not do a thing after all.
I agree about flagging poor quality and obvious link posts. Have not been in he community long, so I don't know if that has an effect.
What would happen if a very obvious post that was just an ad link to another website - no text - (saw one tonight)was linked here and everyone flagged it- and/or voted it down.would it have an effect? I don't know how that works. I see Answers posts deleted when it gets to be a minus-two or three..
when you find a hub that has no text and only a link, flag it.HP will notify the author that it has violated TOS. hub hopping can help catch these hubs and abusers of the site, also checking the latest in the Hubs category above.
A honest question to web content owners:
What is the preference? A low quality content that can ensure more ad clicks or a high quality hub that does neither get visitors nor get ad clicks?
I read somewhere about what decides a woman's fashion clothing. It is the outcome of the compromise between her desire to reveal and modesty to conceal. Perhaps we can draw an analogy here.
The ebay hubs that snakeboy mentions are hugely profitable to hubpages... the 350 ebay hubs probably produce well over $1000 bucks a month for hub pages.
hubs that get clicks are the preference. And for sure barely written in English/ way too poorly written in English/ not written in English hubs are not going to get any clicks. People will never find those garbages as garbage never rank well.
My English is poor but not like those craps. Any reader can understand which content is written by a second language user and which one is spun or barely written in English.
Not necessarily. People ended up in such article for getting some related info. If the info is presented well, they will read and go away! No ad clicks! If what they are searching for is not available in the article, there are better chances that they click the Google ads (on related subject) that brings money to author as well as Hubpages!
Some people click ads just to get out of poor quality hubs! So the hubber will continue to write poor quality because they are making money!
Imagine, if you can, an Internet without Adsense, Amazon or indeed any way to monetize your writing.
How many would write at all? Some of us would, because we have businesses to promote, and some of us would still write just to write, but the great mass of "writers" would be gone and an incredible volume of pages would not exist.
We had that world once. Honestly, I miss it
I would continue writing even without adsense or amazon because I enjoy it.
I wouldn't write so much although, and I'd only write about things that interested me.
But adsense and amazon are just amazing! Pity I can't get ebay too!
I go hub hopping generally about once a week and have found some very good hubs. I have read a few hubs where I did not have an inkling as to what was trying to be said. I have run across a few that had only a title, but thought they were published in error, because I did just that when I first joined hubpages. I did something wrong and just a title appeared. From reading here, it seems some people do this dliberately.
I think garbled or poorly written hubs should be flagged because even if they get traffic they leave that traffic with the impression that Hubpages are poorly written and not a good source of information. Thus they will be less likely to click links to hubs in the future.
That said, if a hub is not getting traffic, it is not a good hub--no matter what the quality of the prose is. This is a content site, and the goal of content is to get traffic.
I don't agree with this statement.
I have read many excellent quality hubs with really useful information (good content) that fails to get hit on ONLY because they were not keyword optimised.
Learning SEO is so important, but totally alien to most of us when we start.
Yes this is a content site, but those with good SEO knowledge can write a load of crap and make a fortune while those who actually know what they are talking about and can write well can completely fail to get picked up by the search engines.
Sad but true.
The fact remains that this is a content site, it exists to make money through advertising, and needs traffic to expose people to that advertising. Having other goals as a writer is fine. But the Hubscore is to encourage the creation of profitable hubs that further the goals of HubPages, and traffic is a huge and important part of that.
A good hub is both one that gets traffic, and one that provides what the traffic is seeking (and thus encourages inbound links and return traffic). So a good hubscore should be based on doing both of these things.
People will continue to do what pays.
Anyone trying to connect morality to it doesn't understand the nature of humanity. Or morality.
Doesn't mean it doesn't suck, but it does mean what it means.
I hub hopped recently and found many hubs that are barely hundred words or less than 200 words and written like blogs and in poor English. I always hubhop and have never found such poor quality of hubs that I have seen in the last two weeks ( I have been here for five months now)
I flagged about twenty hubs yesterday and was fed up after a while, most of them just had few lines about some product and just Amazon ads..
My question is how are they passing the substandard or needs revision flag ... how do they escape it..
I am asking this purely because of the fact that it will indeed bring down the standards of HubPages, even though it is not exactly what this thread is about.
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