I'm not sure if I have mentioned this before here, so: it would REALLY help if we got feedback on stuff we flag - if only on the stuff that admins decide does NOT warrant action. Many times I have been hesitant to flag because I'm not sure - just a little feedback would make me much more confident and ultimately more helpful!
My understanding of this is, that flagging should not affect the flagger in any way, unless someone is routinely putting flags on opinions they personally disagree with.
I am not an avid flagger and I don't care if my flags are receiving "action", I'm just giving an opinion on something that the staff may want to look at.
You missed my point. I'm not looking for "action", I'm looking to better undersand what should be flagged and what should not. I may seem very clear to you which articles should be looked at, but it is not to me.
I agree with you. I flagged two things the other day and was a little hesitate because I might have been a prude.
One was a bevy of lovely ladies from playboy and another was a site so gory with blood, I felt ill.
But it might just be me. I flagged them anyway. My deciding point was that I wouldn't want a child to see it.
So on my last hubhopping, I flagged a good number of hubs that were short, pointless and of little use to anyone. In my opinion, of course.
But do they meet HP TOS? I DO NOT KNOW. We have the explanation:
Is very short, contains a large number of broken links or videos, or consists of unoriginal, nonsensical, difficult to read, or purely personal content
How short is "very short"? How "unoriginal" is unoriginal? How personal is personal - and on that note, I see many, many very personal hubs that I would NEVER flag.
That's why feedback would be helpful. Did I waste staff time looking at the hubs I flagged or was it helpful? If I had even just the negative feedback, just "No, that one is fine but thank you anyway", I'd have more to go on on the next round of hopping.
I suppose I could keep a manual list and check back in a few weeks to see if the hub is improved or deleted, but that is work I don't need.
When the HubPages staff thinks they get too much work from bad flagging, they will quickly make things clearer to us by providing more documentation. Until then we could err on the side of caution and flag. It would be good if they explained it to us but perhaps not enough people are flagging to drown them with too much work.
At the very least, I would like to see a page in the 'my account' section where I can see the latest things that I have flagged. I want to see what happened to them. I don't really need feedback on every flag action, like a message written by a HubPages staff member, but just by looking at what action they have taken I can review whether I'm flagging properly.
Also, that gives me an idea how fast the HubPages staff responds. I flagged some stuff days ago that is clearly a duplicate content violation but it is still online...
I trust HubPages admin and wouldn't want to make vacuous extra work for them by demanding that they get back to me on every little thing I flag for them.
The size of the team and the volume they handle doesn't make this practical at all.
Duplicate content is allowed-- if it is yours. I have a couple of hubs that are duplicates of my own original work that is on another site. I might have a lower hubscore than I would otherwise have on them, but I wanted them here. It is not something I do often, but a few hurt nothing.
But HubPages does not like it, even when the content is yours, so effectively it is not allowed because your scores are penalized.
The case I was talking about concerns multiple people and the hub author is most certainly not the author of the copied content.
I think that what happens between a hubber and the HP team is sort of, well, personal. If you were to complain about a rude customer service rep somewhere, the company won't divulge to you what happens from that complaint, and it's the same kind of theory here.
IMHO, the best solution would be to have HP put up some dummy articles as samples of what we should flag.
I would tend to agree with you, but the simple act of flagging already makes it personal.
I don't see how what Simon suggests makes it any more so. Just a simple list of the hubs we flagged - then we could look for ourselves to see if anything happened. If we see that nothing ever changes, then we know we're being too harsh. If everything we flag disappears or has plainly been improved, we may not be being hard enough.
I could keep such a list myself, of course and I guess I probably should.
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