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Any way to get rid of the Facebook Recommendations?

  1. shewritesright profile image84
    shewritesrightposted 6 years ago

    I logged out of HubPages, but not Facebook, and could still see it. I wondered why on earth I could still see it not logged in to HP. Still, this should be optional and should have some kind of explanation.

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      ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Log out of Facebook then.

      The only people that will see your hub in the recommendations boxes on Hubpages are your Facebook friends.

      If you have already shared it with your friends then I don't see the issue. If that is an issue then they shouldn't be your friends.

      On your hubpage about the bible I current see hubpages recommended by four other hubbers.

      This isn't an issue. Why? because they are already my Facebook friends. Therefore, I can already access their shared stuff.

      I would not be able to see your name, or your shares, unless I was your friend on Facebook. Thus, no privacy issue.

      The issue is not with privacy but your lack of understanding about the widget.

      Now, can I tell you how that box benefits hubpages users? Well, if I were to share your bible reading hub, which I won't be doing as I am an atheist, and somebody on my friends list visits hubpages (irrespective of whether they are a member), they will now see your Hubpage in the recommendations.

      Thus, free traffic for you. Now, if 4000 people shared your hubpage, and they each had 500 facebook friends, who saw a link to your hubpage (not your facebook name) each time they visited hubpages, then you would be in for some serious extra traffic.

      That is what they were thinking. I'm getting really fed up with the flack that Hubpages are taking for stupid things by people who don't know what they are talking about. Not that I expect you to admit that you were wrong of course, nobody ever does.

      1. shewritesright profile image84
        shewritesrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        If I don't know what I'm talking about, it's because the way the widget works isn't explained ANYWHERE on the site and isn't . A simple javascript pop-up explaining that this doesn't violate your privacy - as it appears to at first glance.

        Ultimately, the issue is poor usability. There's a reason why similar widgets from Amazon on other sites that identify you by name have a visible explanation for why your name is showing up in a part of the site; it's because without an immediate explanation that the site anonymously accesses your cookies and/or session information, it can be confusing how the hell the site got your information in the first place. 

        I don't have a problem with the widget as-is, now that it has been explained, but I do have a problem that there is no explanation for how it works or why it shows your friends. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one wh has been taken aback by this.

        And no worries, Ryan, I'm sure my hub will find readers without your promotional efforts. smile

        1. Misha profile image75
          Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I am certain that some self-education on how internet sites in general work will go a long way in solving this issue...

          1. shewritesright profile image84
            shewritesrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            No, and, there's no need to be insulting, either.  How the widget gets your personal information isn't immediately intuitive. More privacy explanations are a GOOD thing - it's good practice to include this information instead of just expecting us to "self educate" about a proprietary widget.

            1. Misha profile image75
              Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I am not been insulting, I am rather being suggestive LOL

              And no, it is not about HP widget, it is about how facebook works. smile

      2. shewritesright profile image84
        shewritesrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        *and isn't intuitive, that should say.

    2. sunforged profile image73
      sunforgedposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      My suggestion to log out of facebook and hubpages and then look at her pages wasnt specific to this issue - she was supposed to recognize that being logged in / logged out of web services creates quite different viewing experiences (but your recent responses show you are quite aware)



      here is facebooks announcement of the tool and how it works:

      http://www.facebook.com/blog.php?post=384733792130

      I use the same tools on my own sites, the privacy settings are on facebooks side

  2. darkside profile image79
    darksideposted 6 years ago

    As suggested, log out of Facebook. In fact, you shouldn't even need to be logged out of HubPages.

    It only effects you.

    So log back into Facebook and just ignore that box.

    1. shewritesright profile image84
      shewritesrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you. I really think that there should be some kind of "How do we know this?" Javascript pop-up somewhere near the box. But I appreciate the explanation.

      1. darkside profile image79
        darksideposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, that would be handy. Often it's a regular oversight on just about every site. Site owners and staff just get so used to their site that they overlook the basic stuff.

        If they covered the stuff that was too basic, it wouldn't only add excess clutter. But that's something that could do with a little question mark icon.

  3. sunforged profile image73
    sunforgedposted 6 years ago

    In this case, if the user did not have a Facebook account they would have no involvement with the widget. Its fair as a site owner to assume that the user should know how their Facebook data is used since the data would only appear if the user was logged into facebook.

    The "we" in "How do we know this" refers to facebook not to hubpages.


    in a side note, does anyone know how to code those little question mark icons? ... a client requested that option last week on a form submit (why do we want to know this) and I have yet to begin my research into how to create those..

 
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