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More on Ad Layout Changes

  1. Simone Smith profile image91
    Simone Smithposted 6 years ago

    Hello everyone!
    Another update on HubPages ad layout changes - Jason just published a blog post (http://blog.hubpages.com/2011/03/ad-layout-changes/) detailing the changes, but the gist is illustrated in the images below:

    The change for those who just have AdSense:
    http://blog.hubpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/normal_ads_before_after1.png

    The change for those who are a part of the HubPages Ad Program:
    http://blog.hubpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/hpads_before_after_3.png


    Again, check out Jason's post for a more in-depth explanation, and visit Paul Edmondson's original forum post for more details on the ad layout change.

    We hope you like the new layout!

    1. pertibha321 profile image61
      pertibha321posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      i think changes for peoples who just have adsense is good but changes for peoples who are also part of hubpages ad program don't look such good.As there is only one adsense unit left.It is sure going to make big drop in adsense earnings.I think it would be better if it have top 3 ads from adsense and then hubpage ad program ads should come.that way it will not make much decrease in adsense earnings Or i would say older layout for the peoples who are also part of hubpage's ad program was better.

      1. profile image0
        ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        AdSense can compete for ALL of the ad spots, so a Hubpages ad program member can potentially see FIVE adsense ads, this was mentioned in the blog post, which is what this entire thread is about.

        1. pertibha321 profile image61
          pertibha321posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yes dear i have been read that.Not sure how its going to effect till when i use it for some time.But am happy that you are earning more with it .congrats

        2. Bendo13 profile image84
          Bendo13posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yes BUT only one of those 5 is from your account... meaning you only get paid for clicks through one ad... the others you get paid by impression.

          If you'd like a peek into how it's effected me....

          The last 7 days I've had, drum roll please!

          $1.27 in earnings through Adsense!

          These changes are putting a hurting on Adsense earnings so much that I'll go from $70+ from last month to maybe $20+ this month...

          Luckily the HubPages Ad program pays daily and it looks like I'll hit that $50 spot but it's going to take a lot to build Adsense back up to what it was.

          I like that their ad program pays out every $50 so that's a plus but if you plan on getting Adsense checks like you use to then you shouldn't join.

          I'm OK with it lowering my earnings a little bit in Adsense but it's been 2 years since my Adsense earnings have been this low.

  2. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Effective when?

  3. Michael Willis profile image76
    Michael Willisposted 6 years ago

    I just opened my IE browser (not logged into HP) to see one of my hubs and it looks good!

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Why do you have to be logged out to see it?

      1. Michael Willis profile image76
        Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        The new HP Ad program. I can only see the Banner at the top when logged out.  I can see the rest when logged in.

  4. theherbivorehippi profile image83
    theherbivorehippiposted 6 years ago

    I can only see the banner at the top when logged out as well.  Sadly...I liked the banner under the title the way it was before. sad

  5. profile image0
    ryankettposted 6 years ago

    I don't understand.

    Why can we see MORE ads when logged IN but less when logged OUT.

    Surely the whole point in ads is to present themselves to people who NEVER login?

    Isn't that supposed to be the other way around? Yin and Yang? Vice Versa? North and South?

    1. profile image0
      ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Oh, or do you mean that you can see ALL the ads whilst logged out, but the big ad banner is not shown when logged in?

      I gets ya, fair enough, that ad could be impression based... in which case we wouldn't want to be earning through our own impressions smile

      1. theherbivorehippi profile image83
        theherbivorehippiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yup. smile  Log out and then you can see the big banner.

      2. Michael Willis profile image76
        Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yeppers! I still wish I could move my amazon ads to the far right though, but...guess the bottom or not use is the way to go. (Non-sales hub)

    2. darkside profile image80
      darksideposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Where is it saying that we see more ads when logged in?

      The images on the left is showing how it used to be, the images on the right is how it will be (or is now).

      Or are you referring to other information?

      1. profile image0
        ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        It doesn't, I just misunderstood the posts of others on here smile

        Although isn't that what they are saying?

        1. agvulpes profile image89
          agvulpesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You only see the top banner ad when logged out. At least I do !

          1. profile image0
            ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            So, you are you saying that the Top Banner ad cannot be seen whilst logged in?

            OR, are you saying that only 1 out of 5 ad units (just the top banner) shows when logged out?

            The word "only" has a double entrede there! The first one makes more sense?

            1. agvulpes profile image89
              agvulpesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Yes I get you now!
                When I am logged out I can see 'all ad blocks' as described in above diagram.
              When I am logged in I can see 'all ad blocks... with the exception of the top banner ad'   I have no idea why ???
              Is that clearer?? smile:

  6. PaulGoodman67 profile image91
    PaulGoodman67posted 6 years ago

    My only question is when can I get the HP ad program?  Will it be rolled out sooner because of the Google changes?  Is it still in a experimental/beta phase, or pretty definite now what's happening with the ads?  (Oops, that's more than one question, I know!)

    cheers, Paul

  7. socialmedia101 profile image61
    socialmedia101posted 6 years ago

    I would say my dismay about HubPages is world wide.

    As this post talks about.

    <snipped link - no self-promotion in the Forums>

    The idea of a site having trouble with templates and the use of ad placement for users is not acceptable at this time with the technology available. 

    Without users submitting content no hubpages.com would exist.

    The other issue is this site is poorly prepared for search engines. No sitemap.xml file is found.

    Type in http://hubpages.com/sitemap.xml
    and you get That page doesn't exist.

    1. lrohner profile image84
      lrohnerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Well, there ya go. If it's on Associated Content, it must be true (particularly when it's written by someone who can't spell.) smile

      1. theherbivorehippi profile image83
        theherbivorehippiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol

      2. socialmedia101 profile image61
        socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Perhaps if this form worked then we would not have such a problem.
        The real question how much have you made on this site???

        1. lrohner profile image84
          lrohnerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Here on HubPages? Um, quite a bit, actually.

        2. yenajeon profile image81
          yenajeonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Oh no! We're "loosing" ground! LOL

    2. profile image0
      ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      A sitemap does not have to be named sitemap.xml

      It can be named ihatefuckinggoogle.xml if you want.

      Making the sitemap that easy to find is a great way of having somebody strip your site of its content overnight.

      Educate yourself a topic before becoming a willing critic.

      1. socialmedia101 profile image61
        socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Well I suggest you go to an seo class to learn about site maps.

        Or a little company called Google that cannot seem to find the site you are so loyal to.

        1. profile image0
          ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I don't know which part of my post you didn't understand, but I am right, it is YOU that needs to attend an SEO class:

          http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/W … &hl=en

          $13300 in 6 months on Hubpages, by the way, take a hike. I would never write an article for $7, I know too much about SEO wink

          Before the algorithm change I was taking 27000 page views PER DAY, I am now taking 18000 PER DAY.

          If Google can't find your Hubpages then you need to attend that SEO class, jog along.

          1. Michael Willis profile image76
            Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            If you check the web, you find both his hubs elsewhere also!

            1. lrohner profile image84
              lrohnerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              What hubs?

              1. Michael Willis profile image76
                Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Gone now. There were 2.

  8. skyfire profile image72
    skyfireposted 6 years ago

    Technology ? Show me any alternatives for yieldbuild that are available in the market.


    Dude, this is not a wordpress or free CMS hosted site. Hubpages contains consistently tweaked custom code. Go to archive.org and watch progress of this custom CMS from the very beginning. Sitemap queries are not supposed to follow the same URL structure that you see on other free CMS.  wink

  9. lakeerieartists profile image80
    lakeerieartistsposted 6 years ago

    Simone, thanks for pointing us to the blog post.  smile  Sounds good to me.  Let the best paying and most relevant ad win!

  10. socialmedia101 profile image61
    socialmedia101posted 6 years ago

    Obvious the technical abilities of users of hub pages equals the amount of shared revenue.

    Perhaps if every one moved to demand media at least they pay $7.00 an article. More all make on hubpages.

    Custom code. Dude in a browser you can see the code structure. This is a simple site. Which should have nothing to do with one fact.

    Why all this claimed custom code cannot allow users equal share in revenue. Well if the site had any revenue to share.

    1. skyfire profile image72
      skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Are you for real ?


      Why you're so worried about every one ? You feel the pain, move on, leave the hubpages. wink


      What a load of BS. Anyway, what's your skill-set ?


      Yes. Site has no revenue to share and you can pack your bag now.

      1. socialmedia101 profile image61
        socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        We have.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image92
          Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Don't let the door hit you in the rear on your way out!  lol

    2. Michael Willis profile image76
      Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Duplicate content shared on more than one site is a problem also, you agree?

      1. socialmedia101 profile image61
        socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        No, look at the recent article about the New York Times.

    3. lrohner profile image84
      lrohnerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      One more piece of information you've managed to get totally wrong.

    4. Susana S profile image92
      Susana Sposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ha! Would you choose a one off payment of $7 per article or several hundreds/thousands dollars per article over it's lifetime? If it's the first choice then I think that either you need a psychiatrist or you're skint and need the upfront money.

      1. socialmedia101 profile image61
        socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        If you ever made thousands on an article you need an accountant.

        1. Aware1 profile image59
          Aware1posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Are you for real?? All you need to know is simple maths to figure taxes. Sounds as though you have never worked for yourself before.

          No one needs an accountant to sort out earnings, unless they would like to maximize deductions (or) just mearly have the certainty of validity of their totals by a licensed professional backing up their claim.

          Though, while making thousands, one tends to hire accountants for conveneince.

          Maybe read up on the successful writers on this site. Quite impressive.

          1. socialmedia101 profile image61
            socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Everyone wants be a leader by telling how well you do.
            That is why you still write for this site.
            Not a real one.

            1. Aware1 profile image59
              Aware1posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              This is a great site and community. I have various accounts here and also many of my own sites. I am full time self-employed online. smile As you have noticed this site has tightened the straps on their "quality control!" due to unfortunate abuse by unsavory types.

              The unfortunate thing about great platforms is that when they have clout, leaches come to take advantage.... we won't have it any longer!

              If this is a crappy site, then why are you here wasting your time?

            2. saleheensblog profile image60
              saleheensblogposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              And how much do you take for your stupidity? I earn almost nothing from this site but I still think whatever I earn will be enough to pay for your nonsense.

  11. Ritsos profile image65
    Ritsosposted 6 years ago

    2 hubs ....wow I'm really grateful for the expertise ;-)

    1. socialmedia101 profile image61
      socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yes two hubs do to the fact the literary editors at hubs declines submissions.

      now if you go over to places like triond, associated and the others that PAY for content you all might wake up.

      you are being had.

      but then all of you are smarter, wasting time answering a thread about how you are NOT making money.

      1. Ritsos profile image65
        Ritsosposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        where are you from socialmedia?

      2. Mark Ewbie profile image82
        Mark Ewbieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        HI Mr. Media - what's your beef with the deal here?  Maybe you and me can get together and start an alternative going.  I have a number of ideas for creating content in a top down theocratic and optimised logical methodology using only the latest drivers in linking strategies.

        I reckon to pull in a couple of big ones each week doing this and you sound like just the sort of guy to have on board. I need technical knowhow and a can do positive vibe running through my organisation and if I throw some organic stuff in your direction we can make this work.

        Ciao for now.

        1. socialmedia101 profile image61
          socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          We already have 5 sites. We only tested this site to see how the search engines like them. They do not like this site.

          1. saleheensblog profile image60
            saleheensblogposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            And if you join me we can open another website that will contain video clips of yours only. People would have to pay to enjoy your mon[k]ey-dance. I strongly believe we will earn well.

      3. Randy Godwin profile image92
        Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Who said we weren't making money?  lol And if you write for AC, you need to check out their forums to see how bad it has gotten over there.  $7.00?  LOL!  What idiot would sell an article for this low rate when it will make much more than that in a short while here if written well!  smile

        Get along little dogie!

        1. socialmedia101 profile image61
          socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Demand media pays $7 and article read the type

          1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
            Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I will not write an article for less than $10 for 500 words at places that pay upfront. My most successful article on HubPages has earned me over $900 and is #1 on Google.

            And I don't understand either why you are here. Obviously your hubs did not fit the quality standards here.

      4. Michael Willis profile image76
        Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Guess I should take a pay cut and use Associated Content. I mean...$7...Wow!  Why would I want more than that???

  12. Michael Willis profile image76
    Michael Willisposted 6 years ago

    Well, they do Decline submissions that are duplicate content. Maybe Associated Content will accept them and maybe they will pay duplicated times if they are that easy to fool.

    1. socialmedia101 profile image61
      socialmedia101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Associate owned by Yahoo insures search results on articles.
      Search your articles and see how well they show up outside of Hubpages.
      Not

      1. Michael Willis profile image76
        Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Not...lol,  Guess people do find them, since I see the views from Google, Bing, Yahoo, AOL and many others. Why are you still even here if you hate this site so bad? No more hubs, just posts on forums.

  13. paradigmsearch profile image91
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    @HP

    In my humble opinion, your awesomeness continues. smile

    In my further humble opinion, I think the ad layouts on the left-side are more aesthetically pleasing.

    Please keep doing what you are doing! smile

    1. paradigmsearch profile image91
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      OOPS! I just realized those were before and after pics! lol

      Sorry about that.

      Never mind.

      PS However, your awesomeness does continue. smile

  14. skyfire profile image72
    skyfireposted 6 years ago

    @Socialmedia101, helium is sweet awesome sheksy site that pays 10$ upfront and includes the article in revenue sharing queue as well. Why not try that ? By the way which five sites you think search engine likes the most ?


    Why ? Your bank cashier don't count zeroes on check ? smile

  15. jokeapptv profile image61
    jokeapptvposted 6 years ago

    lol sad

  16. Michael Willis profile image76
    Michael Willisposted 6 years ago

    I see the Spam is being served for Supper time tonight! (reported)

    1. Michael Willis profile image76
      Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Wow, thanks for the quick response HP Team!!!

  17. Rosie2010 profile image83
    Rosie2010posted 6 years ago

    Thanks Simone, the ads look good to me.

  18. DaNoblest profile image60
    DaNoblestposted 6 years ago

    @socialmedia101

    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_eg6zqP2pFfU/TYWUcQvl1yI/AAAAAAAAACk/ldrYt-42pUY/troll%20acco2.jpg

  19. tbartle profile image80
    tbartleposted 6 years ago

    Wait...why is it better to have less ads? They didn't seem very imposing before. Won't this cut down on our adsense earnings?

  20. revmjm profile image85
    revmjmposted 6 years ago

    Can't wait to see how this will work out. I'm being very confident that it will be a win-win situation for ALL.

  21. janderson99 profile image85
    janderson99posted 6 years ago

    Its a Worry! Counts are still declining and my adsense earnings are in free fall! How's everyone else going?
    http://s3.hubimg.com/u/4799666_f248.jpg

  22. pedrog profile image60
    pedrogposted 6 years ago

    My CTR as gone down, very down, almost 40% down, i think this new ad layout isn't improving earnings.

    1. Eve Foss profile image82
      Eve Fossposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      My traffic is up considerably. But my clicks are nonexistent.

  23. saleheensblog profile image60
    saleheensblogposted 6 years ago

    I have got no click from last 1,500 search engine visits. Last 20 clicks brought me only 0.1$. I don't like the new layout at all. It doesn't look good. I don't understand how it looks more reader friendly than the earlier one [ads under title and a horizontal ad in the middle] that used to bring me much much better ctr and cmp. I think the Ads leader board on top of the hub making the readers hit the back button straight away.

    I hope HP ads will cover it up and it already looks good to me.

  24. len7288 profile image47
    len7288posted 6 years ago

    I prefer the old adsense layout, and I think there should be an equal number of ads for google and hubpages program. For the past 5days that I activated the hubpages ad program my google adsense earning was greatly reduce to 1/4 and even less and even when you add my earning from hubpages ad program my previous earnings in adsense alone is much more. I hope you can bring back the old ad layout.

 
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