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Interesting PANDA analysis - how to fix your hubs & Hubpages

  1. Suzanne Day profile image98
    Suzanne Dayposted 5 years ago

    Here's an interesting article I found about what exactly you should do to skirt around the Google PANDA/content farm slap. Extra tips welcomed here too!

    http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/interne … actors.htm

  2. IzzyM profile image85
    IzzyMposted 5 years ago

    That site says
    "3. Get out of the "article submission" business."
    Not terribly helpful, IMO.

  3. Will Apse profile image91
    Will Apseposted 5 years ago

    I dont know about skirting the Panda slap but it seems like a good analysis. I didn't have to retire to a vomitorium for a moment- a rare thing, indeed, with anything SEO related.

  4. brandonhart100 profile image84
    brandonhart100posted 5 years ago

    This is "ok" in my opinion... and by the way it's not necessary to have hyphens in your domain name for Google to realize what you have going on...  Looks like there are a few decent things that it says, but again I think it's just "ok".

    1. brandonhart100 profile image84
      brandonhart100posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      As I continued to read this further down the page in all it's a pretty impressive index of useful "things to know".

  5. tritrain profile image77
    tritrainposted 5 years ago

    I can't say that I care much for the layout, but the information is helpful.  I think some statements have been debunked, such as keyword density.

    Really, it's hard to say what and how this Panda/Florida effect really has and how it will pan out in the end.

    We know some and it will take a while to figure out the good and the bad.

    This analysis was a good initial stab at it.  smile

    1. Suzanne Day profile image98
      Suzanne Dayposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks for reading everyone - it's not my article and I agree it could have been laid out better. In a post-PANDA world, I think every bit of info we can glean will help us to figure it out instead of waiting a year to figure it out....and that's gotta give us a head start on floating to the top of results again in search engines!

  6. Lisa HW profile image84
    Lisa HWposted 5 years ago

    It's a useful list, and I plan to go back and "learn it" better (just because it can't hurt to "learn it").  (so, thanks for posting is Suzanne). 

    Having said that, though, (and maybe this is just me, or just my mood recently) I've just had to stop worrying about what Google likes and doesn't like, and do "the next thing". My reaction to all this recent stuff that's gone on has been to just forget about who likes what and who wants or doesn't want what; aim to stay with TOS on any sites, and otherwise just do whatever I feel like doing.  If Google decides to like it somewhere down the line, great.  If not, fine.  There's a part of me that thinks, "Google is the one paying people.  Of course, people should try to do what Google likes."  Then there's another part of me that just think, "Well, Google isn't paying anyone for stuff that isn't performing well for Google - so who cares.  It's not like people are being paid for performance their stuff doesn't have."

    (I'm actually in the process of getting everything I have online, except for Hubs, and turning it ALL into duplicate content!!!  lol  - just because it's mine, and I CAN! That's the one thing in my control when it comes to all this stuff.  lol  roll  lol  I'm finally forgetting about everything, and just starting to write whatever I want to write and do whatever I want to do with it.  smile  If I can let someone put ads on some of it, great.  If they earn, great.  It's all just great.  Great.  Great.  Great. roll   roll  lol)  (I thought my earnings were coming back the other day when I got my first measly $5 day since "The Events" (and that would have once been a horrible, horrible, day for me).  The next day, I had - like - a 60-cent day!  It's all out of my control and willy-nilly from what I can see (and anything we can't actually fully understand for sure is always "willy-nilly" to us).)  The good thing is that buried stuff doesn't get stolen.  :big_smile:  From now on, it's all about me, me, me, and my writing, "Baby".  lol  No more mucking up, or watering down, my writing efforts by trying to factor in what someone else wants, likes, or approves of (within TOS, of course).

    End of rant.  Not end of a long-lasting "mood" (and I'm not sensing any mood changes in the near future).  hmm

  7. Suzanne Day profile image98
    Suzanne Dayposted 5 years ago

    Good one Lisa, although I'd be a bit concerned with my content being duplicated across the web in many ways as this will always be penalised in some form or another (to stop everyone doing it of course!)

    I agree that you can go two ways - worry about what Google thinks or not. If you don't, that's cool and you'll certainly have less stress - but it is good to have a basic understanding of what Google punishes from time to time as something as simple as putting an ad at the top of an article instead of the bottom of an article can make a huge difference in earnings. Having said that, I do get tired of rewriting and all that sort of stuff to please the Google god, so may not bother with that much anymore apart from sprinking keywords in certain ways.

    I hope Hubpages manages to put their house back in order again as it was going great guns for me until PANDA and I'd like to stay. It's a wait and see game - I do keep hearing from many people about putting articles on your own site is the way to go and I'm planning to test it out sometime soonish...

    1. Lisa HW profile image84
      Lisa HWposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Suzanne, smile    I know it always make sense to get a good grasp of what works well SEO-wise (needless to say).  I do plan to go and study up on the lists at the link.  smile   I guess my problem (and I know I'm the one with the "issue" - not someone else) is, I guess, that since the whole PANDA thing went on, I guess I was doing the very business-like, and reasonable, thing of stepping outside myself; and seeing the whole thing in terms of "nothing more than the usual kind of changes that go on in all business".  And that's true, really.  I usually, at least on an intellectual level, just see it that way.

      Underneath, though (and I know this all a matter of how someone experiences something, which is separate from whether that "something" was intended that way for anyone), what has gone on feel likes "games".  Again, I know what something feels like and what it really is can be two different things. 

      For so long, I intentionally didn't focus on SEO stuff and left my stuff do do its own thing.  Even so, though, I straddled fences and mucked and watered down in some attempt to make something of some redeeming value to whoever read it.   A lot of this spare-time writing I've done has had some shred of altruism behind it (and that kind of made up for the fact that I pretty much don't like most of my Hubs because so many are a matter of being watered down, straddling a fence, or mucked with).    I don't want a medal for whatever shreds of "high minded" motivations has made me see my stuff as at least a little more worthy of my using my time on than some other stuff might seem to me.  I've been writing for the money too.  So, I guess I've gotten kind of exhausted by trying to straddle that fence, instead of just jumping into one of those sides or the other.

      So, I guess over the last month or so, I've been seeing it all as that "usual kind of business shift", and ignoring the "deep down mental impact" the whole business has actually had  on me, personally.  I do my writing (offline) for business, and I don't think any of those "doings" have a shred of "mental impact" on me.  I guess, if we invest spare time in something, it can feel more personal.  Straddling that fence was working well for me before, even though I wasn't focusing on SEO stuff.  The new changes make it seem like people who were focusing on too much of that stuff were the ones Google "didn't like".

      Other than producing my own share of crap that doesn't deserve the light of search engine day, what I was doing before (with the reasonably decent stuff) was working.  For now, it's kind of working with HP ad program.   Maybe one day Google will "like me" again (to whatever extent it did before); but right now, for probably a number of reasons, I'm pretty much seeing what basket I shouldn't put anything but plastic eggs into.  I'm already watering down, and straddling fences, with what I write on here.  At least here, I can keep one toe on the side of the fence that I prefer.

      Rant aside (I'll admit that felt good  smile ), the only reason I'm indulging in the rest of this "discussion" here is that I have a feeling I'm not the only one going through "a writing identity crisis" these days.   On a more positive note, though, I do see promise with the HP ad program.  I haven't written off having any hope for Google.  I do just have to take back control of "my whole writing picture" and not let anything/anyone else have so much impact on my choices any longer.   smile  The PANDA thing was kind of good, actually.  I've been hating a lot of my Hubs for a long time, but not wanting to remove them because of the money factor.   hmm  (That Google-earnings money-factor issue seems to now be resolved!  lol  roll )

      1. Suzanne Day profile image98
        Suzanne Dayposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks for your reply Lisa! It makes sense to just forgo the whole nit-picking business of following everything Google wants (and it does stress you out lots for little return). I appreciate your insights on this. Also, I do think, like you, a lot of writers are having an identity crisis regarding their purpose in writing ; )

  8. skyfire profile image73
    skyfireposted 5 years ago

    LOL. This is joke of the decade. Considering how some of the autoblogs like 68articles and others are ranking high using content scraped from popular sites.

    What's next ? advice like ' google can detect linkwheels, so link naturally between your pages". xD