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The "Magic Formula" to Increase Hub Page Views?

  1. Jonas Renfold profile image60
    Jonas Renfoldposted 5 years ago

    Does anyone know the magic formula to increasing page views. Here is what I am looking at for averages over all of my accounts and hubs.

    Monthly Views:  17 Per Hub
    Ad Program Earnings Per Page view:  .005 (half a penny)
    Adsense and Amazon Revenue: Negligible, not calculated.

    So, this means if went to work like a mad man and wrote 500 new hubs a month.....

    After 1 month I would get 8500 page views and earning $42.50
    After 2 months I would get 17,000 page views and earning $85
    After 6 months I would get 51,000 views and earn $255
    After a year I would get 102,000 views and earn $510
    After 5 years I would get 510,000 views and earn $2500

    See what I mean? I gotta figure out a way to get views per month per hub up. If I could get at least 100 views per month per hub I WOULD go to work like a mad man. Also, don't say backlinks is the answer because I have several hubs that have 50 or so links to them and they don't perform significantly better than those without links.

    Any ideas anyone?

    1. Garrett Mickley profile image81
      Garrett Mickleyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You may have 50 backlinks but are they good backlinks?  50 good backlinks may not be enough if the subject is a highly competitive one.

      I have 5 hubs that have received over 100 hits in the last 30 days.  2 of those have NO backlinks (at least not ones that I built. I don't know if other people are talking about them and spreading them around). One of them, the most successful of them (over 500 views in the last month) has backlinks built through a signature on ONE forum that I am active on anyway, so I'm building the backlinks at no extra effort (I have a hub on how to do this if you're interested). The second most popular one has a few backlinks I built but less than 10 (maybe lss than 5).  The 4th most popular of them has a somewhat decent backlinking campaign but is competitive which makes it difficult.

      My point is, backlinking DOES help.

      Keep writing, keep backlinking.  Make your content good, and your backlinks good.

      1. Sinea Pies profile image85
        Sinea Piesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What is the title of your back linking hub?  I am interested!

        1. Garrett Mickley profile image81
          Garrett Mickleyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          It's called "How To Get Backlinks - How To Find Forums For Backlinks" and I have a link to it on my Profile page.

    2. KyleBear profile image60
      KyleBearposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Write unique, exclusive and more hubs is the only way. There is no magic formula.

    3. BRIAN SLATER profile image85
      BRIAN SLATERposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Magic formula, you do want your cake and to eat it- When you first come here to write you think I only have to write a half decent story to make it to the top of google.

      But then you hear words mentioned in the forums you haven't heard before like, Keywords and on page optimization, seo and your heart drops because you think you have missed the boat so to speak.
      Being able to write a story in good English with no grammatical errors is only half way there. You must find out what people are searching for, to do this you need help to find the right keywords. I would use Market Samarai, it not only gives you the kw'ds you want, it tells you how competitive they are, how relevant they are, and what advertisers are prepared to pay.
      Once you have this sussed out you need to learn about what IzzyM called on-page optimization or as thisisoli said seo. That is a whole new ball game which will take you time and effort to succeed in. Only when you have some success with these will your numbers begin to rise.

    4. sonykuddi profile image61
      sonykuddiposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      The calculation is good, but its too hard for getting me traffic/visitor to my hubs, as I have only two published HUB.
      I think it is only possible when we write quality a HUBS and stay active on regular basis.

      Back link is definitely  helpful for getting more and more visitor.

      Now I am in learning stage of posting good quality HUB in hubpages

  2. thisisoli profile image60
    thisisoliposted 5 years ago

    You are asking for help on a huge dubject. Research SEO. If there was an easy way to get traffic, everybody online would be millionaires. Instead there is a huge amount of competition that you have to beat.

  3. psycheskinner profile image81
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    The only sure formula is to write more hubs.

    Or unicorns.

    1. Garrett Mickley profile image81
      Garrett Mickleyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Unicorns are a sure-fire way.

      1. Greg Sage profile image60
        Greg Sageposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, but how many?

        Need specifics.

        1. Garrett Mickley profile image81
          Garrett Mickleyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Depends on the competition you're up against.

          Check Google and see how many unicorns your competition has.  You can do this by using unicorns:URL

          For example:
          "unicorns:hubpages.com" (without quotes) shows that hubpages has over 9000 unicorns.

          I actually wrote a hub about this, you can check it out as my most recent one.

        2. Marisa Wright profile image92
          Marisa Wrightposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Impossible to say.

          I have one Hub which has earned $300 in two years.  I have other Hubs which have earned $3 in two years.  The rest of my Hubs are on a continuum in between.

          Being a successful writer on the internet, on HubPages or anywhere else, is not just about writing.  It's about learning SEO, how to promote your work, how to use the keyword tool and other resources to find the right subjects, how to use images and videos legally to enhance your articles, and so on.

          And all the backlinks in the world won't help an article if it's about a subject nobody is looking for.

          If you're serious about earning money, sign up for a free trial with Market Samurai, take a month off writing, and spend the trial period watching ALL the videos and working with their software.

          If that sounds too much like hard work, you may as well give up now, because making a living online is hard work!

          1. IzzyM profile image86
            IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Great post Marisa! I too agree 100% that Market Samurai is an indispensable tool if you want to make the most from your hubs. It will also explain more about those four basic rules I mentioned above, and you can check that your own hubs or sites are fully optimized, as well as a million other things, like checking out keyword competition.

            I would also recommend that you buy MS when the free trial is up as you get to buy it at a special price.

            Even if you uninstall and reinstall, you will not get a second free trial and will have to pay full price if you later change your mind.

            1. Marisa Wright profile image92
              Marisa Wrightposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Izzy, personally I didn't buy Market Samurai after the free trial - but by that time, I'd decided that I wanted to write about dance, regardless of the fact there were no lucrative keyword choices in that field!  I'm lucky that I'm not totally reliant on my online earnings to live, so I was able to make that choice.

  4. 2uesday profile image87
    2uesdayposted 5 years ago

    Or offer free chocolate. smile

  5. psycheskinner profile image81
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    chocolate unicorns, but only one (they fight).

  6. 2uesday profile image87
    2uesdayposted 5 years ago

    I think that you really need a 'time machine' and travel back six months or more.

  7. psycheskinner profile image81
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    You can never have too many unicorns.

    But seriously, it is about long tail these days.  One of my top hubs is about unicorn costumes, go figure. 

    I just try stuff out and stuff the bombs I never do again, stuff that gets hits I do more variations of it.

    1. Garrett Mickley profile image81
      Garrett Mickleyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I've been told Google will, in fact, punish you for having too many unicorns.

      1. recommend1 profile image71
        recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I am now seriously concerned about the unicorn issue - if I have more than one will I be penalised by HP if they link to others through the feed ?

        1. Garrett Mickley profile image81
          Garrett Mickleyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          HP has issued no statements but I believe they will penalize your hubs if they think you have been using spamming techniques to acquire more unicorns.

    2. Sinea Pies profile image85
      Sinea Piesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Psycheskinner, how do you go about creating your longtails?  I can locate keywords but what techniques can be used to stretch it into an effective longtail title?

  8. IzzyM profile image86
    IzzyMposted 5 years ago

    The first thing you want to look at is on page optimization before you even look at backlinking or anything else.

    I wrote a hub about it recently that explains in simple terms how to write a hub that is optimized for search engine traffic, though I probably didn't say enough about keyword usage throughout the hub, because that is subject to a wide range of differing opinions.

    Basically, if you can get just four things the same in your hub with your keywords, and that is title, URL, summary (the meta description tag) and heading then your hub stands a better chance of getting traffic from the word go.

    If you don't believe me, try changing an existing hub and watch the traffic appearing like magic.

    1. Jonas Renfold profile image60
      Jonas Renfoldposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      These are all great suggestions guys..this is just what I was looking for...thanks

    2. thejeffriestube profile image82
      thejeffriestubeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Izzy, I just went back a did a few like you said. Wow. You know you're stuff.

      1. IzzyM profile image86
        IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Did you just go on to subdomains too, at around the same time? Subdomains have been increasing nearly everybody's traffic, as far as I'm aware. But yes on page optimization is really important.

        1. thejeffriestube profile image82
          thejeffriestubeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I did just go to subdomains, and it's been a steady climb. I've noticed that using your advice, plus doing the proper SEO from the get go is really a recipe for greatness. My advice is to other Hubbers is to get yourself a system of doing a Hub, write it down, and when it works, do it the same way everytime.

          1. IzzyM profile image86
            IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I am really pleased to hear you are seeing results. I was here six months and not making any progress despite reading all the SEO hubs from the experts here.
            Then I downloaded Market Samurai, and followed its advice, and my traffic rocketed.
            You don't need to go to the expense of buying software if you know what you are doing (which I didn't), but I was surprised that no-one had told me how following this simple procedure could make such a massive difference. I am happy to pass this knowledge along, and appreciate that you have come back to the forum to tell us all that it worked for you too smile

            1. thejeffriestube profile image82
              thejeffriestubeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Anytime! I think my stay at Hubpages is going to be a long one now.

  9. MelissaBarrett profile image61
    MelissaBarrettposted 5 years ago

    I just want ONE unicorn.  Surely someone can show me a safe way to get one without being google slapped...

    1. recommend1 profile image71
      recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Why would any experienced unicorn owner just pass on this kind of information, when you have a few hundred pointless hubs and a few websites all backlinked properly the unicorns will come of their own accord.  Spamming and black hat techniques to achieve this level will probably result in your being banned by HP and the exact opposite from Google as in most other cases recently.

      1. PaulGoodman67 profile image89
        PaulGoodman67posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I link my unicorn together with black hats, then grind up their horns and drink them in a special tea.  As a result I have seen a 20% increase in my hub traffic views.

  10. profile image0
    JacksBlogsposted 5 years ago

    What is a unicorn?  What the hell are you talking about?  Is this a joke or is a "unicorn" a name for some technique or link that is real?  Come one give me a break here!

    1. IzzyM profile image86
      IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      It's a mythical animal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn

      [sorry, couldn't resist!]

  11. PaulGoodman67 profile image89
    PaulGoodman67posted 5 years ago

    You need to learn SEO (search engine optimization), Jack.  There is info at the HP learning centre.  I also have hubs on the topic and a hub that links to the best hubs by others (imho).

    I think the phrase "magic formula" is why people chuckled and had a bit of fun!  ;-)

    1. joba1984 profile image60
      joba1984posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You have to actively participate in the forums etc to get a good hub score and of course keep adding good, unique relevant content. You need to become part of the community to be rewarded

      1. IzzyM profile image86
        IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Says the man with one hub and one post in 17 months!

        1. Richieb799 profile image65
          Richieb799posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          LMAO

          1. kmackey32 profile image81
            kmackey32posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            He may have another account and he is right...

            1. IzzyM profile image86
              IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Having a good hubscore has very little to do with how much traffic your hubs get.
              Properly keyword researched hubs that reach their target audience can bring in thousands if not millions of views without the author ever participating in the social side of HP.

              1. Richieb799 profile image65
                Richieb799posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Very true, my hub traffic is up today and for some reason my hubscore is the lowest its been for probably 6 months

                1. kmackey32 profile image81
                  kmackey32posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Yea and I have a good hubscore and my traffic sucks...lol

                  1. Mark Ewbie profile image82
                    Mark Ewbieposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I have a better score and I bet my traffic is worse than yours.

  12. RooBee profile image84
    RooBeeposted 5 years ago

    500 hubs a month? I just wanted to say daaaaaaaaang! That's all. Back to my chalkboard. Working on the formula..tweaking my calculations to include unicorn data..
    P.S. Paul Goodman, if you use a green hat you'll see better results. Also, try to grind under the waning autumn moon.

  13. rex michaels profile image81
    rex michaelsposted 5 years ago

    Hello everyone, excellent forum, great info a newbie like myself needs.  Thanks to all

  14. successfulblogger profile image60
    successfulbloggerposted 5 years ago

    I agree with the idea of how profit cam increase excep your impressions would go down.

  15. successfulblogger profile image60
    successfulbloggerposted 5 years ago

    Sorry about the typos

  16. RedElf profile image85
    RedElfposted 5 years ago

    No - sorry...it's still chocolate unicorns - but remember, dark chocolate has more flavinoids, so they're better for you, regardless of what Google says big_smilebig_smilebig_smile

  17. seamist profile image80
    seamistposted 5 years ago

    There is no magic formula. The only formula I know is constantly learning and hard work.

    1. viryabo profile image87
      viryaboposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Short, sweet and on point. smile

    2. profile image0
      TopUniverseposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, keyword research, good quality content and hard working will do the trick.

  18. truthfornow profile image80
    truthfornowposted 5 years ago

    Thank you for the tip to do a summary for every hub.  It was one of the things I was missing.  When I went back and put a summary for a few of my hubs, I noticed that traffic started to go up right away.  Thanks.

  19. rumanasaiyed profile image63
    rumanasaiyedposted 4 years ago

    It was a good point of discussion..

  20. Patricia Di profile image60
    Patricia Diposted 4 years ago

    Excellent point.  Hadn't actually looked at it in those terms.  I'm putting on my thinking cap.

  21. 2uesday profile image87
    2uesdayposted 4 years ago

    Looking for help in a post that is 18 months old is surely not the best way to go about things. Lots can change very quickly in online writing.

 
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