Here's a little more - I checked your Twitter Hub. Now it may be that a lot of people don't care about spelling or punctuation - but some do. They won't bother reading. If you can afford to lose them, fine. I doubt if anyone checks out of a Hub however if it does have correct spelling.
"were as here" - should be "whereas here"
You swap between twitter and Twitter. It can't be both. Choose one. Choose Twitter.
"Well its simple" - should be "Well it's simple" or "Well it is simple"
I know you're thinking this is a bit picky. Actually your hub reads OK, and is interesting. If you type your words into a Word document first and look at the spell checking and grammatical suggestions - your writing would look more professional.
btw - I'm trying to be helpful. Don't normally bother.
I really admire the effort you put into this, under your own duress, as you described. Entrepreneur2.0 got enormously good advice from you, and then other Hubbers stepped in to undermine your words. Not that you are possessive about your words, I know you are not, but all the good you did got subverted by another saying they like his style, attitude, and originality, bypassing the flaws that keep him from being an authoritative writer.
Well, maybe that's the game of Internet writing...to hell with quality...let's just have attitude.
I've scanned only one of Entrepreneur2.0's Hubs, and it didn't keep my interest for 10 seconds...Why? It's grammar is faulty, making me work too hard to get the point.
Good for you for stepping up there, Mark.
28 hours later, the profile still reads, "Im from Northern Ireland and im British not Irish, ignorance just annoys me."
Ignorance annoys me too.
@Cags, about the self-promotion... That's all this is. (Can't wait to be banned...it's never happened, but if this does it, I'll be in very good company.)
Personally I'd much rather read the words of somebody who's an interesting writer, but who's grammar is lacking. Than the words of somebody who is incredibly dull, but who manages to place every punctuation mark perfectly.
I guess we all 'shudder' at different things. Some of us at poor grammar, and some of us at the overly-critical diatribes of self-righteous grammar Nazi types.
That's what I was thinking, a prodigy that can't punctuate...what the H is "grammerly"? And I wouldn't wait to earn money to invest in grammar lessons, if I were you, Entrepreneur. You'd be waiting a LONG time.
Very much agreed. Everyone makes mistakes, but when the mistakes are that obvious, they have to learn some how. Being nice and friendly doesn't always cut it. Of course, don't be down right rude. Just point out the horribly obvious mistakes. Eventually he'll get there. Maybe.
From what I've read here so far, it's quite apparent that you need it. Capitalization and punctuation are things that some of us here are sticklers for. It's part and parcel of the whole "writer" gig. You may be a genius entrepeneur, and your content may be brilliant, but when you're writing, you need to pay attention to mechanics as well. It shows disrespect to your readers when you're sloppy about such things.
I think I got you beat... 10 days in and my score is higher (without the self promotion) and I am up to 20 cents. But who's counting? Please dont look at my hubs, else you might feel a little embarrassed when comparing yours to mine. What do you think? Am I right?
Welcome to Hubpages and the forums! You are way ahead of me. When I joined HP seven months ago, I didn't even know about the forums. There are quite a few hubbers here from both England and Ireland. If you love to write, HP is a really good site. But you must proofread your hubs, use the speller although it doesn't catch grammar mistakes, it helps with spelling mistakes. Best wishes here in Hubpages. You're doing good.. self promoting. Now we know who you are and where you live. Be afraid, be very very afraid. lol just kiddin'
well I have been doing other things. Like getting backlinks and I'm trying to get back into doing better English. So I do appreciate your criticism, if i had the money i would go and do classes on grammar and spelling as well as writing classes, i know i don't have the "pose" to generate interest, guess what its my style and i dont criticise yours. Although my grammar maybe be shoddy, i haven't had to really use it and that is why i am trying to get back into the fold with it. P.s I know you don't like cripples with bad grammar but get used to it.
Bro, for only having five hubs, you're not doing too bad at all. Your hubs are decently laid out, so it looks like you have a pretty good handle on the software.. Just learn all you can about capsule placement and SEO, and you'll be good to go..
I wouldn't worry so much about grammar and spelling - there are ways around that. For me, I always write the article in Word first. That tends to catch 99% of whatever grammar and spelling problems you'll have. There's no reason to go out and spend a ton of money on classes - the more you write, the better you'll get.
Still, there are hundreds of books about writing, grammar, and spelling. One of the best books you can get is "The Elements of Style", by Strunk and White. Also, as far as grammar and spelling, I constantly find myself referring back to Simon and Schuster's book, "Handbook for Writers". Both can be found at the library.
Everyone has their own style, but style doesn't have anything to do with proper grammar and correct spelling. Style is how you use the language to make a point.
I think you're doing alright so far.. just keep with it and you'll be good.
It is in your best interest to improve your grammar if you want people to take you seriously. Writing is a skill like any other and you really should take the advice you have been given in this thread.
You will not earn money if people try to get away from your hubs as quickly as they can. You have to write something that will interest others. People's opinions on the thread do not matter but you have to ask yourself "why would someone read my hubs?".
SS, I'm not after you, except that you may come first while I follow second in this thread. All I'm saying is that you can break, or bend, the rules because you've mastered them to a point where breaking them may be a creative rather than a pointless or destructive act.
well its part my generation and part of UK culture as well as american so to people my own age i'm just more grown up than they are but have the same problem with English. When i was young i couldn't understand it and i am only good to about a level 5 writing grade and i bet most of you are about a 7 or 8, if you want me to explain what level you are at ill write a damm hub if i have to. P.s. I hate reading dry asbestos writing, as you may have a flaw and so have I except it wouldn't take much learning to get over it again, where as you may need a sabbatical to change your dry wine of a tone.
Yes, I would also love to hear about this writing level system. Go for it! I find it kind of funny, though, how a lot of people from the UK area like to talk down about Americans, and say they are much smarter than we are. And here is direct proof they are no better than us. (:
Very few of us are dry writers. Although most of us change our tones/language depending on our intended audience. I.E. if I wrote an article about a popular game show, it would sound quite different than if I wrote one on Breast Cancer. (Neither are in my hubs, so don't look)
The grammar thing is important though. No one expects anyone to be perfect. Hell, I majored in English and I still have red lines all over the place after I've finished an article. I just pay attention to them and fix them...
Just to throw it in: http://www.plagiarismdetect.com/demo-check.html It's a plagerism detector that I always use with my paid articles just in case a sentence or phrase from research sticks in my head and accidentally sneaks its way into my writing.
I generally run all of my writing for hire through all three and many of my hubs/other web 2.0 writing through the first two. It takes about 5 minutes total per article and fixes 90 percent of what my word processing software and HP's spell check misses. They are all cut/paste input then cut/paste output programs.
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