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Subdomain Move Update

  1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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    Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago

    About a month ago, I posted a blog post and forum post recapping our response to the Google Panda algorithm update, and announcing our test of moving Hubber accounts to subdomains. Many of you volunteered to move your accounts early, and we thank you all for your interest and support. We ended up moving several accounts over with the expectation that each account would experience different traffic changes.  The most important part of the test was to develop confidence that, by putting each author on a subdomain, using the rel=author meta tag, and given the moderation efforts we've made, authors could get relief from Panda's negative site profiling of all authors' content. 

    After a couple of weeks of observing Google's response, we've seen a dramatic recovery among many accounts, but we've also tested lower quality accounts that didn't see a recovery.  We view this as a good thing and exactly what Google should want.  It's each person's responsibility to ensure they produce quality content.

    We've decided, then, to move forward quickly so that Hubbers can claim their own subdomain, we can move Hubs over, and so that search traffic to high-quality Hubs can improve rapidly. That process will begin later this afternoon.

    In the meantime, we wanted to allow those beta users to share their personal experiences in this forum thread if they would like.

    ---Check back after 2pm today--
    Update:  The initial steps started at 1 and it's processing.  Once it's ready, I'll post a link to the subdomain page for each author.

    Hubbers can begin selecting and activating their subdomains now and reading more about subdomains in the learning center.

    Please report issues here.

    1. relache profile image88
      relacheposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Well, I was one of the folks who picked a unique sub-domain and then had it switched back to be my username.  I didn't notice any difference yet in performance from one to the other (since the 2nd switch just happened in the last 24 hours), although HubPages is insisting that I'll see better results with my username.  I'll remain hopeful on that front...

      But overall I've seen a return of traffic and earnings that is only about 20% down from what things were pre-Panda.  Mind you, the test has only been going on for a week so it's hard to predict where things will level out in the long run but I had traffic and Hub ads leap up within about 48 hours of getting the sub-domain.

    2. spsingh profile image60
      spsinghposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      My daily page view increased by 10% now i don't know its due to subdomain or any other factor but i am happy with subdomain because it gave short name to my hubpages profile...really cool thing superliked Thanks paul

    3. ngureco profile image87
      ngurecoposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      This is my first day since I switched to sub-domain. In my case and in comparing traffic for:

      1. Friday, June 17, 2011 against Friday, July 15, 2011, the traffic increase is only 13.4%

      2. Friday, July 8, 2011 against Friday, July 15, 2011, the traffic increase is only 10.5%.

      1. Bendo13 profile image86
        Bendo13posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I just noticed the option and switched over today... I guess in a few days I'll see if I'm considered a good or bad writer wink

        I'm curious though... are we still able to use the referral trackers the same way or is there a different place we should put them?

        1. rmcrayne profile image94
          rmcrayneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Your answers are in the thread, if you dig through, but 24 pages is a lot of digging, so I thought I would respond. 

          HP staff is saying we should see positive changes in 3-4 days after switching to our subdomain.  This has been true for me.  You can see my reports on the last couple pages. 

          You don’t need to do anything except complete the simple process for switching.  Per HP staff, everything else, including links and referral trackers, is supposed to transition as if by magic.  wink

          1. Bendo13 profile image86
            Bendo13posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Oh ok but I mean... after you make the switch, and you have your hubs showing up on your subdomain..

            Do you still enter the referral code the same way you use to?  After the .com?

            1. Bendo13 profile image86
              Bendo13posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Looks like it still works like that.. Perhaps I'll report back in a couple days with a smile on my face.

            2. rmcrayne profile image94
              rmcrayneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Oh, you mean for adding your referral tracker in the future/new hubs, etc.  I believe someone already asked that question, but I don't remember the answer, or if it was answered.  Sorry.  If you don't get an answer soon, try emailing team@hubpages.com.

              1. Bendo13 profile image86
                Bendo13posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Yeah I just added it in like I normally do and checked the link... it redirects the same as before, I assume you use it as you always have.

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                  Suramya.Kposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  If its still confusing, then we can try scrolling to the bottom and clicking on "Link to this page"!

          2. PegCole17 profile image89
            PegCole17posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks for that info. I was looking thru 25 pages to try and find it. Mostly interested in the effect on Referral Trackers.

    4. Aficionada profile image91
      Aficionadaposted 5 years ago

      Paul, one question I have never seen (either asked or answered clearly, and I'm not sure which) is what happens with Hubbers who have multiple HP accounts? 

      Must all accounts be combined into one subdomain - or, conversely, must they not?  May they be, if desired?  All of this is way above my pay grade, and I don't entirely understand the pros or cons of either approach. 

      Thanks for any help!

      1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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        Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Each account is independent of each other.  In special circumstances we can move hubs between accounts, but this is very rare and best dealt with by emailing our support.

        1. FloraBreenRobison profile image60
          FloraBreenRobisonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Okay, now I am confused. Some people say they are moving their hubs to subdomains and then comments like this one above  say "we" can doit-meaning the hubpages staff.  Are regular hubbers supposed to make this change, or is the hubpages staff? And if it is the hubbers themselves, which thread in the forum lays out exact how this is done?

          1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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            Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            This was a reply to a question about having multiple accounts. Most people have one and it won't pertain to them.   Just follow the link in the first post to move to a subdomain.

    5. brandonhart100 profile image83
      brandonhart100posted 5 years ago

      An additional question I have is to whether we can somehow change our names beforehand or have control over the subdomain title? Some might choose to use a slightly different pen name considering how the subdomain will be titled with their own name.

      1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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        Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        We don't offer changing of usernames.  There will be more published on how subdomain selection works.  After much deliberation we've have chosen a path that aligns subdomains with usernames as closely as possible. This move is about letting high quality content get relief from Panda and segmenting content in a clear way for Google to judge each users Hubs.  Your main subdomain page will replace your profile page.

        I'd encourage people to think of their presence on HubPages as a personal brand similar to a twitter handle.

        1. janderson99 profile image84
          janderson99posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Ahhh! I wanted 'awesome'

          1. janderson99 profile image84
            janderson99posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Reminds me of a Byron Bay politician who changed his real name to 'Fastbuck$'. We'll all have to be careful with our 'badge' that Google will identify whenever and wherever it is used, beyond HP.

        2. Glenn Stok profile image96
          Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          It would be fine with spaces were automatically removed. I'm almost guessing that is part of your algorithm for "as closely as possible".

          1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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            Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Yes, spaces removed and "-" will be options if they are available.

        3. embitca profile image86
          embitcaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Paul, what will you be doing about all the users who have keywords as their username?

          1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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            Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Some words are treated differently.  Some will be accepted and others won't. When they aren't accepted they will be given some choices and in some rare circumstances they will be able to request a subdomain based on their username to our moderators to approve.

    6. CASE1WORKER profile image85
      CASE1WORKERposted 5 years ago

      Well done Paul! Onwards and Upwards as they say.

    7. psycheskinner profile image80
      psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

      So, subdomains will not be Hubber's choice?

      I ask that because someone recently informed me that 'skinner' is a slang term for child abuser.  So I am kind of phasing out that part of my name....

    8. SimeyC profile image88
      SimeyCposted 5 years ago

      I'm showing an increase of over 60% on a week to week basis. As my page views were diminishing due to niches that are coming to an end, the true figure is probably more like a 100% increase.

      For the same period (comparing Early June and early July) my revenue has increased:

      Google: 36%
      HP ADs: 86%
      eBay: 9%

      Amazon is about the same.

      What is interesting is that while my niche sites are doing well I noticed a couple of hubs that have never performed well are suddenly gaining traffic.

      So far I'd say I am back to pre-panda levels - my Google Analytics show a marked increase...I was switched early July and saw the increase take place on July 5th.



      http://s1.hubimg.com/u/5264816_f248.jpg

      Sorry - not sure how to make the image bigger!!!

      1. IzzyM profile image86
        IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks for sharing that Simey - you are the first hubber I have heard say how well the subdomain thing was working, and I am delighted to hear it is working out smile
        I didn't volunteer because I wasn't sure what would happen to my backlinks, but I realise now they are using redirects so they won't be affected.

      2. kerryg profile image88
        kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks for the report, SimeyC! Glad it's helped you!

      3. Urbane Chaos profile image88
        Urbane Chaosposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        SimeyC, that's awesome!  I hope that it works out like that for all of us!  Thanks for the info.. big_smile

      4. soni2006 profile image45
        soni2006posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Congratulations Simey. Subdomains are the most important thing which will separate high quality authors and hubs from low quality ones. I am eagerly waiting to start seeing its effects.

      5. HSanAlim profile image53
        HSanAlimposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I have had about the same results as Simey. 

        Paul had said they expected it to take 5 days for the full effect to be felt but after 3 days I was already up over 60% and by 5 days - wahoo - I had a full 115% increase over pre subdomain test traffic.

        Revenue also went up but, interestingly, in the last 6 days of the subdomain test, with traffic holding relatively steady, the value of the ads being shown with my hubs, for both Adsense and HP ad program went up. OMG was I excited.

        I was worried when told we had to switch back to the user name for subdomain but was assured that, if anything, traffic would improve even further.
        Have my fingers, toes and anything else I can cross waiting with baited breath on that account.

        Bottom line - BIG SUCCESS for the subdomain test. Thanks to Paul and all the staff for their hard work.  At the hour they made the second switch, from subdomain test name to subdomain based on original user name, traffic is still at pre Panda levels.

    9. celebritie profile image75
      celebritieposted 5 years ago

      Thanks for the update Paul, appreciate it!

    10. Glamorously Jacob profile image60
      Glamorously Jacobposted 5 years ago

      That's great news! I'm so anxious for 2pm to roll around! smile

    11. PaulGoodman67 profile image90
      PaulGoodman67posted 5 years ago

      Sounds very promising, thanks, Paul!

    12. jimmythejock profile image82
      jimmythejockposted 5 years ago

      I look forward to seeing if the results are positive from the change.....jimmy

    13. Azure11 profile image88
      Azure11posted 5 years ago

      Well I volunteered but didn't hear anything so it's interesting to hear how it turned out. I've had some really random traffic figures in the last week - from having one of my worst days ever to having one of my best days ever on consecutive days - what is that all about?!

      1. Aficionada profile image91
        Aficionadaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I think it was a glitch in reporting the statistics.  Check out this post and the entire thread that it was in:

        http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/78708?p … ost1703075

    14. Peggy W profile image90
      Peggy Wposted 5 years ago

      Thanks for the update Paul and also to you, SimeyC for your update as to how it is improving your traffic and income.  Can't wait to be included in this new program!  smile

    15. psycheskinner profile image80
      psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

      Guess I am stuck with being a "skinner"...

    16. celebritie profile image75
      celebritieposted 5 years ago

      Its almost 2:00 are we going to be sent an email to change our subdomain name?

    17. Angie Jardine profile image91
      Angie Jardineposted 5 years ago

      I'm not sure how this is going to work - not good at 'techy' things. Is this sub-domain thing somehow automatic or do we have to do something?

      1. Robin profile image
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        Robinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        You will be able to move to your subdomain under My Account > Profile > Subdomain.  If you don't choose a subdomain within the next month, HubPages will choose a subdomain for you.  We will let you know as soon as it's live!  big_smile

        1. Angie Jardine profile image91
          Angie Jardineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks for this help,Robin ... not sure how to choose a sub domain now. Can I just use my name as I am doing at present? And can I do it now?

          1. celebritie profile image75
            celebritieposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks, that is a clever way to do it.

          2. Robin profile image
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            Robinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            It will be available today.  Paul or I will post here when it's available.  big_smile

        2. Glenn Stok profile image96
          Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks Robin for that post.  I just went there and saw the subdomain option. It gave me two choices to choose from. I picked one and let it do the conversion. It took a while and I was wondering if I clicked it or not. There was no warning that it will take a while. But I didn't want to mess up clicking twice. So I waited and after a minute it was done.

          Everything went well. I checked out my profile under the old and new url and both work. Same for my hubs. I tested a few both ways. The old one returns a 301 so search engines will have no trouble updating to the new url.  I am very pleased. It is obvious that the HP programmers did a lot of testing prior to this because it went really well. No problems.

          I went into my Google Profile and changed the link to my new HP profile url, even though it's not necessary to rush to do this since the old one give the 301. But I just wanted to help Google do things faster rather than waiting to discover 301 redirects. Thought that might help.

          Great job! As usual HP does not let us down.

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            Giselle Maineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks Glenn, your synopsis is very helpful to those of us who might be a little daunted by the process.  It seems like it's a fairly easy change-over process, which is a relief! I appreciate you taking the time to let us know what to expect.

    18. WoodsmensPost profile image65
      WoodsmensPostposted 5 years ago

      Well this is happy news. I may have just gotten a jolt of inspiration to write something again and also go back through and brush up my hubs smile

    19. Lissie profile image86
      Lissieposted 5 years ago

      So hubpages will be just the same as blogger or tumblr - each of our accounts will be independent of the rest of the site and live and die by their own authority.

      Will HP be
      a) changing the revenue share percentage - why would a new user join HP and share rev when they can join blogger for free - and both new accounts will have the same authority (none)

      b) removing the restrictions to "prohibited sites" like clickbank and the restrictions to backlinking - because now its up to each hubber to sink or swim as far as SEO is concerned?

      1. embitca profile image86
        embitcaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        It does seem like fewer restrictions and a higher revshare would be in order smile

        1. tirelesstraveler profile image86
          tirelesstravelerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Great news

          1. Lissie profile image86
            Lissieposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Read the thread - no not great news - unlikely to happen IMHO - just what SHOULD happen IMHO

      2. Nera Woods profile image82
        Nera Woodsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, Lissie, I was wondering also about that -- that it's just like being on blogger. But blogspot.com is PR8 while hubpages is PR5

        1. Nera Woods profile image82
          Nera Woodsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          and just like you said that blogger gives all the revenue while HP gets a portion

          1. ngureco profile image87
            ngurecoposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            It may seem to be like Blogger but going by the significant results posted here by SimeyC, the said results are unlikely to have been obtained from Blogger had he transferred his articles there. I suppose there must be a catch somewhere.

            1. Marisa Wright profile image92
              Marisa Wrightposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Ngureco, if you moved your Hubs to a Blogger account, they would lose all their existing "link juice" and reputation with Google, so you're right - SimeyC wouldn't have got the same results transferring his articles there.

              What Lissie is saying is that for new writers, Blogger would be more attractive.

              1. Aficionada profile image91
                Aficionadaposted 5 years ago in reply to this



                But then, there are also the new writers (like me, when I first came to HubPages) who know nothing about writing and publishing online, but who want to get started with it ASAP.  The community we have here is an incredibly rich, useful resource for people who don't know how much they/we don't know.  Marisa, you are one of the ones who have helped probably thousands of new online writers, including me, to find their way.

                I haven't felt any need to find out whether Blogger has a similar helpful community, because the one here is so excellent.  I know that whatever my question, I can nearly always count on a response on HubPages from somewhere around the world 24/7/365.

                Some who have been writing online for a while really may have lost sight of how huge a resource this is, but I don't ever want to forget it.

                [Sorry for sidetracking - I was gone for a little bit. My subdomain change worked great!]

              2. Dolores Monet profile image91
                Dolores Monetposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                but I imagine that my stinky little blog would have had no visitors if not for HubPages

        2. theherbivorehippi profile image83
          theherbivorehippiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I'm glad I'm not the only one not jumping up and down over this. I'm having a hard time seeing the attraction to HP now....other than to use to create links to personal sites.

        3. celebritie profile image75
          celebritieposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Really, I guess I should start making more blogger blogs.

          1. WannaB Writer profile image92
            WannaB Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I think that unless you have a very popular blog, HubPages will get more readers, since we are a community and have followers who read many things that we write. When I get notifications from HubPages, I read them, whereas RSS feeds and notifications from most of the blogs I follow get looked at once in a blue moon because I'm so busy. I always open the messages in my HubPages folder, and I'm likely to read any new Hubs which interest me. I don't feel so connected to the bloggers I'm following.

      3. Paul Edmondson profile image
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        Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        We believe that HubPages is the most rewarding (traffic, revenue, community) opportunity for publishers. 

        On the revenue side each author in the HubPages Ad Program gets a direct sales force, ad network optimization, and other abilities like having more than three AdSense ads on a page. We'll do more here to provide enterprise level earnings for Hubbers while they maintain ownership of their content.

        On the community side, that speaks to all of the helpful people here.  This is a world class community. 

        Getting to the heart of your question, is publishing on HubPages the same as wordpress or tumblr?  From what we can tell during the testing process, it is not.  Subdomains allow for content to be segmented by author, but there are tremendous differences in HubPages's information architecture and other platforms.  As part of our subdomain tests, we included new accounts.  They performed similarly to how new author accounts performed pre-panda.

        It's our mission to make HubPages the most rewarding place to give and get information and other interesting content.  Like many of you, we've succeeded by hard work and creating value.  There is no substitute for these.  With change there comes uncertainty, and there is risk in every move. Our hope and data suggests that this is in the best interest of the excellent Hubbers, otherwise we wouldn't do it.

    20. Paul Edmondson profile image
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      Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago
      1. janderson99 profile image84
        janderson99posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Done! Sooo Easy - thanks to all HP staff for making it seamless and easy to do.

        A quick question  - Will the pages be instantly indexed and recognised by Google for page ranking purposes - or how long could this take. Also are there any canonalization issues? How quickly should the changes in hit-rates take and the changes be reflected in results.

        Thanks and Cheers,

        1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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          Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          All urls to your existing Hubs and profile page 301 redirect to the new subdomain.  It takes about 3 days to get indexed by Google and see ranking changes.

          1. PegCole17 profile image89
            PegCole17posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Hello Paul
            Had a question about the effect on Referral Trackers after the change to the subdomain. At present trackers show up as they always did

            https: // hubpages.com /my /earnings /tracker /mydefaulttracker

            Will these trackers change to show the subdomain?

            This was asked in a comment on my hub about Creating Referral Trackers. I'd like to be sure that my instructions are correct.

            Kind regards
            Peg

      2. embitca profile image86
        embitcaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Paul, do we need to change anything in our Google analytics account now that we are on a subdomain?

        1. Jason Menayan profile image60
          Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          No, unless you entered in URL channels with www. at the beginning.

          If your URL channel links started with hubpages.com, then you're fine.

          1. embitca profile image86
            embitcaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Hi Jason, I don't mean for the Adsense Channels. I'm talking about the Google Analytics reporting, the one with the UA at the beginning of it. My website profile for Hubpages is hubpages.com/profile/embitca.

            1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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              Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I didn't change anything for google analytics and it seems to be working fine for me.

              1. embitca profile image86
                embitcaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Okay, thanks Paul. Now I'm wondering.... with the new subdomains, would it be possible to track each account with a separate website profile? Right now I just have all my hubs lumped in together. Would be interesting for me to separate the analytics info for each one.

                1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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                  Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  that's possible with separate analytics codes.

    21. Paul Edmondson profile image
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      Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago

      This is what it looked like on my account. I went live on subdomains the week of 7/2/11.  It took about three days to get my hubs indexed under the subdomain.  Rankings continued to climb for seven days.

      Week    Views    Change
      2011-02-05    1,431    +12.2%
      2011-02-12    1,433    +0.1%
      2011-02-19    1,405    -2%
      2011-02-26    1,291    -8.1%
      2011-03-05    972    -24.7%
      2011-03-12    1,019    +4.8%
      2011-03-19    965    -5.3%
      2011-03-26    1,064    +10.3%
      2011-04-02    1,052    -1.1%
      2011-04-09    990    -5.9%
      2011-04-16     873    -11.8%
      2011-04-23    831    -4.8%
      2011-04-30    785    -5.5%
      2011-05-07    882    +12.4%
      2011-05-14    858    -2.7%
      2011-05-21    747    -12.9%
      2011-05-28    673    -9.9%
      2011-06-04    702    +4.3%
      2011-06-11    719    +2.4%
      2011-06-18    694    -3.5%
      2011-06-25    707    +1.9%
      2011-07-02     1,222    +72.8%
      2011-07-09    1,202    -1.6%
      2011-07-16    1,462    +21.6%
      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/5265373_f248.jpg

    22. CMHypno profile image89
      CMHypnoposted 5 years ago

      Have clicked the button with no probs - so wait and see I guess!

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
        Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Me too ,clicked ,easy peasy Im good to go.

        Good luck everyone with the ka ching $$ 's smile

    23. PaulGoodman67 profile image90
      PaulGoodman67posted 5 years ago

      Set the controls for the heart of the Sun, batten down the hatches and... activated!

      Sorry, I couldn't resist a bit of melodrama - I am excited!  :-)

    24. W. Christopher profile image72
      W. Christopherposted 5 years ago

      Great job, Paul and responsible HP staff! smile I think it'll be great!!! smile

    25. celebritie profile image75
      celebritieposted 5 years ago

      I'm all in... it was a piece of cake!

    26. TamCor profile image78
      TamCorposted 5 years ago

      Mine is done...everything looks just the same, though--is that the way it's supposed to be?

      Thanks, and my fingers are crossed, hoping for the best! smile

    27. Jason Menayan profile image60
      Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago

      My results (for the account under which I publish, livelonger) have been pretty impressive.

      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/5265433_f248.jpg

      My average daily earnings (HubPages Ad Program + AdSense) is up 85% over what I earned prior to the move.

      1. IzzyM profile image86
        IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I am quite excited by this change now! Thanks for sharing your stats smile

      2. embitca profile image86
        embitcaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        That's pretty impressive results, Jason. What was your traffic like before Panda?

        1. Jason Menayan profile image60
          Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          It was better; I have not made a full recovery. I'm about 30% down below my highest sustained peak pre-Panda.

          1. embitca profile image86
            embitcaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks, that's not what I was hoping your answer was going to be, but I appreciate the honesty !

    28. livewithrichard profile image84
      livewithrichardposted 5 years ago

      The 'link to this page' structure needs to be changed.  I know there is a redirect but if we're starting fresh then we need to fix this as well.

      1. janderson99 profile image84
        janderson99posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Will the transfer to subdomains affect the page rank of the home page, and this in turn pull down the page ranks of the subdomains (we're all in this together). I have noticed that HP is currently ranked at  5  - it used to be 6 ????.
        I am interested in the on-going rating relationships between the subs. It has been stated elsewhere that a subdomain page may be harder to get to a high position on the search results because of the relationship with other subdomains. I guess this is all unexplored territory.
        May the Force be With You!

        1. Glenn Stok profile image96
          Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          HP came down to 5 from 6 because low quality hubs pulled us all down. Now that we'll have our own subdomains we don't need to concern ourselves with the ranking of HP itself. We can concentrate on our own ranking by giving Google what it wants.  Now we are in control of that without low other quality hubs pulling us down. Just keep in mind what Google says in their blogs... they want to give people who are doing searches what they want. If you can do that, you'll do fine.

      2. Jason Menayan profile image60
        Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Are you seeing this show up incorrectly?

        EDIT: I see it now. It's been reported to engineering. Thank you for letting us know, and thank you for your patience while we fix it. smile

      3. Paul Edmondson profile image
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        Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks. I filed the bug.

    29. 2uesday profile image88
      2uesdayposted 5 years ago

      Not easy to know what to pick when your writing name starts with a number but I got there in the end.

      Bit concerned that I could not use the same subdomain name as on my profile name. I am wondering if that will cause problems for me with traffic. Still I have given it my best shot.

      1. Glenn Stok profile image96
        Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        2uesday, go to your profile under your account and see what options you have. I wouldn't know but you might be lucky to find one option without the 2. I was given two options. In my case I could choose a hyphen between my first and last name or without the hyphen. Take a look and pick one. Then give it a minute to convert. It doesn't tell you to wait and you might think your browser locked up. But it's working and takes time.

      2. Fawntia profile image
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        Fawntiaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        2uesday, we received your subdomain request and approved one of your choices. You should have received an email about it with a link to where you need to go to complete the process. Please let me know if you did not receive the email. Thanks!

        1. Glenn Stok profile image96
          Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Fawntia, I completed my switch-over successfully but I never received an email as you had indicated. I just clicked to select the one I wanted and then clicked the next step to approve my selection. Then it sat there for a minute or so while it was doing the conversion in the background. After that it came back with a message saying it was successful. No emails were involved. Was I missing something? Everything seems okay with the new url.

          1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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            Paul Edmondsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Glenn, You shouldn't have had to recieve an email.  There is a small subset that have usernames that don't convert well to subdomains and a separate process for them.  I think it's about 2.5% of accounts.  The vast majority just need to click a few buttons.

        2. 2uesday profile image88
          2uesdayposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you for your reply, I found the email it was in with the the spam so I may have missed it without your reply. I have followed the directions and it has confirmed the subdomain set up.

          p.s. I hope this change helps Hubpages and the Hubbers here as everyone is working hard.

          1. IzzyM profile image86
            IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            http://by-2uesday.hubpages.com/

            What an excellent sub domain name!! Hope it brings you every success smile

            1. celebritie profile image75
              celebritieposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I agree, what a interesting sub-domain name pretty cool, I like it.

    30. theherbivorehippi profile image83
      theherbivorehippiposted 5 years ago

      If I type in one of my old urls it does not redirect straight to my hub...it takes me to Google and shows where the hub is listed....as well as an entire page of other articles to choose from. Shouldn't it be going straight to the new address?

      1. Glenn Stok profile image96
        Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I just tried one of your hubs the old way and it redirected properly.

        1. theherbivorehippi profile image83
          theherbivorehippiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          really? I just tried over a dozen and it kept taking me to Google's page. Thanks for letting me know.

          1. WoodsmensPost profile image65
            WoodsmensPostposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Redirect worked from iPhone too just now from one of your best hubs

            1. theherbivorehippi profile image83
              theherbivorehippiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Thank you...appreciate you checking!

      2. gracenotes profile image92
        gracenotesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Herbivorehippi,

        I just went to one of your latest hubs, changed the URL to the old way without your subdomain, and it re-directed just fine to your article.

        1. theherbivorehippi profile image83
          theherbivorehippiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you...I think it was an operator error (meaning me) smile

      3. Jason Menayan profile image60
        Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Can you share that link?

        1. theherbivorehippi profile image83
          theherbivorehippiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I think the problem was I was using addresses from my Adsense channels maybe?

          So weird because if I copy the Adsense channel exactly and paste it comes out to be ( hubpages. com/ hub/ hhippiestoptenagainstebay )...notice the spacing that it adds when I paste? Perhaps this is why it's directing all the ones I try to Google's page. Does this mean there will be an issue with channels or will they direct just fine?

          1. Jason Menayan profile image60
            Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Yes, I think AdSense URL channels embed extra periods. (I can't tell right now because it looks like AdSense's interface is down)

            1. theherbivorehippi profile image83
              theherbivorehippiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Do you use channels Jason? Did they also transfer fine?

              1. Jason Menayan profile image60
                Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Yes, and they continue to work just fine. You shouldn't have to change them unless you explicitly wrote your links with a www. before (if they were encoded just hubpages.com then you don't need to change them)

                1. theherbivorehippi profile image83
                  theherbivorehippiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Great. Thank you Jason. smile

          2. Glenn Stok profile image96
            Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I know of this problem. Not really a problem though. You cannot copy and paste URL's from your URL Channel list in Google. They embed spaces so the URL does not become a hyperlink. 

            As for the channels redirecting... That is working because HP issues a 301 redirect for all the old URL's.

    31. rebekahELLE profile image91
      rebekahELLEposted 5 years ago

      one click does it, how nice, it shows up immediately. Those sharing results so far sound promising!


      oops,I forgot it took away our # of tweets/FB likes.

    32. Glenn Stok profile image96
      Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago

      Report of Possible Error...

      I see that links within text modules have automatically converted. But I found two strange ones...

      Links I had going to forum posts now start with my subdomain. Example:

      http://glennstok.hubpages.com/forum/topic/12345

      The above works (dummy example) but I would not have expected it to have my subdomain in front for a forum post.

      The second weird item is a link I had in a text module to another Hubbers profile. Here is a dummy example:

      http://glennstok.hubpages.com/profile/hubbername

      Again, why is my subdomain in front of that?  It redirects properly so the links still work, but I don't think it's right to include my subdomain when referring to another hubber's profile.

      1. Jason Menayan profile image60
        Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Hmmm...sounds like a bug. Can we have a look? Can you share a link to the Hub? (Don't worry - we won't mod your post smile)

        1. Glenn Stok profile image96
          Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Jason, This is where I found those links...

          http://glennstok.hubpages.com/hub/HubPa … s-HubMeets

          Look for the hyperlinks "Local Meetups", "Forum post" and "Froggy213". The first links to a forum topic, the second to a forum post, and the last is to a profile. They all have my subdomain even though they redirect anyway.

          1. Jason Menayan profile image60
            Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            That's odd. You encoded all of those links before the subdomain move?

            Let me see if I can find another example in another account...

            EDIT: I found another Hub under a subdomained account, and the link to a forum thread is still under hubpages.com.

            1. Jason Menayan profile image60
              Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Fawntia seems to have figured it out.

              Glenn - for some reason your links are encoded using a relative file structure, like:
              a href="../../../forum/32"

              instead of the usual absolute link structure:
              a href="http://hubpages.com/forum/32"

              Do you remember how you created these links?

              1. Glenn Stok profile image96
                Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Yes I do. I code the entire URL including the "http://" But I noticed that something was changing them to...

                "http://http://hubpages...etc" ... 

                I reported this double http: a while back because I had to keep fixing them. Then another Hubber told me to leave out the http:// altogether and I found the bug didn't interfere that way. So I started entering complete URL's without the http. But never as a relative format. However, I had noticed it change it relative after I save the capsule.  Weird if I'm the only one that's happening to! roll

                1. Jason Menayan profile image60
                  Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Thank you for sharing this. This will help us fix the problem somehow.

                  Once everyone is moved over to subdomains, we will likely change all hardcoded Hub links in Hubs to the subdomain version (instead of just relying on the 301 redirects). We'll try to identify anomalies like this and fix them at the same time.

                  1. Glenn Stok profile image96
                    Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    No problem. The beauty of it is that you guys covered the issues so well that even bugs turn out to work right now. smile

                    Oh, by the way, let us all know how we should format Referral Trackers in the new URL.

                    1. Jason Menayan profile image60
                      Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                      I checked before and your current referral tracker URLs should continue to work.

                      I believe they also work if you add your subdomain to the URL.

                      EDIT: Confirmed that they continue to work either way. smile

    33. Glamorously Jacob profile image60
      Glamorously Jacobposted 5 years ago

      I switched over! Woohoo!

      Great job hubpages team!

    34. WoodsmensPost profile image65
      WoodsmensPostposted 5 years ago

      Google searched  keywords for one of my hubs and found it first page, clicked on it and boom redirected to woodsmenspost.hubpages.com/hub/url title

      Exellent and not a noticeable redirect it was instant  !!!!!!!! And I am on mobile iPhone ATM

    35. rebekahELLE profile image91
      rebekahELLEposted 5 years ago

      very nice. I'm impressed already. Good work, HP.

    36. Lily Rose profile image82
      Lily Roseposted 5 years ago

      I'm a part of the Beta testers ... I don't have any statistics, however I can tell you that within 3 or 4 days of being switched over to the subdomain my traffic more than doubled - I'm pretty close to pre-panda levels (maybe 100-300 daily views less than pre-panda).  My HP Ad Program income has doubled as well and even my Google AdSense has greatly improved - I've had many great days (like pre-panda) and some so-so days.  Amazon has stayed about the same.

      Overall, I'm very happy that I volunteered to make the switch early and I hope that things keep on improving (thanks, HP!) 

      I just might be motivated to publish hubs again soon!

      1. Lisa HW profile image82
        Lisa HWposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I've been a tester.  My previous average daily was in the area of 1100-1300.  Right before the testing it had dropped down to - like - 800 (and on one day, 600 and something).  After a few days of testing I started to see traffic go up to as high as around 2000 (plus or minus) on at least one day.  Most other days it's been kind of averaging in the 1800/1900 area.  That's just from memory, and I still haven't gotten around to writing summaries on a ton of Hubs that had the automatic ones wiped out.  I've got, maybe, 40 (or fewer) of my Hubs with new, nice, summaries on them.  These numbers are all from memory, but I've paying attention daily.  There's a lot of tweaking I could do to improve my traffic, so my test results are without doing all that.

        When it came to selecting a subdomain name, I didn't want the user name (Lisa HW) (mostly because I've hated it since choosing it too quickly).  I have a mix of Hubs, so I don't really have a niche.  With Google's latest emphasis on authors (not just as it relates to HP, but in general), I figured it may make the most sense to go with the author name (at least for my more casual, online, writing) I use everywhere (except for here).

        I wasn't sure that was the wisest choice because the whole subdomain thing was new, and so many people talked about getting a good niche name.  My only niche is my writing, done under the one author name.  So I just went with that (and double-checked to see what Paul Edmondson and other staff had chosen for their own subdomains.  I figured, if they chose their own name there was probably a reason for it; so I felt a little bit better having gone with my author name.  Later, I felt even better about it after reading that the author name was recommended under the whole Google/HubPages circumstances scenario recently.   Besides, with the big emphasis on trying to stop people from "working" the search engines, I just felt safer going with my author name (which won't change).  In other words, I just got so I decided I'm doing what seems to make sense for me, as a writer whose focus on only on my writing.  I liked the idea of the portability of the author name for each author.

        Basically, I've been happy with the results and encouraged to know that the responsibility for one's own quality will now be put with the writer.   I've been happy I volunteered too, and I appreciated the chance to be a tester.

        1. ngureco profile image87
          ngurecoposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Lisa, the results you’ve posted here are quite impressive… and may it be like that for many of us here after this switch to sub domain?

          Before panda, Hubpages used to tell us to expect $2 - $5 for every 1000 impressions. From your observation, did you get any closer to be within that earning range in the combined HP-ads and Adsense earnings?

      2. IzzyM profile image86
        IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Great! Thanks for sharing Lily smile

    37. wilderness profile image97
      wildernessposted 5 years ago

      Well, I pushed the button. Twenty minutes ago.  Although I have checked 37 times my traffic hasn't quadrupled yet! lol

      Great job, HP - I've looked forward to this.  Now if google doesn't decide they don't like my stuff in particular...

      Let the waiting begin!

      1. Lisa HW profile image82
        Lisa HWposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        That's been (and still is) the scary part for me.   lol   My thinking is, though, that I'd rather not be liked by Google for myself (and my writing); than not be liked by Google because of someone/something else.  hmm  That wouldn't pay whatever my earnings had been paying any better, but at least there'd be some justice in it (or whatever).   hmm

        1. wilderness profile image97
          wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Pretty much.  It's helpful sometimes to be pulled along by someone elses coattails, but I'd rather stand or fall on my own.  At least if google doesn't like me perhaps I can figure out why and do some changing.  If the negatives come from someone else there isn't much I can do about it.

          1. PaulGoodman67 profile image90
            PaulGoodman67posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Absolutely!

    38. Mutiny92 profile image88
      Mutiny92posted 5 years ago

      I am crossing my fingers!  Converted over.

      Thanks HP for all the hard work!

    39. cardelean profile image88
      cardeleanposted 5 years ago

      That couldn't have been any easier!  Thanks HP staff.  I joined after Panda so I am very excited to see if my traffic increases with this new change!

    40. gracenotes profile image92
      gracenotesposted 5 years ago

      Just made the switch.  Happened super fast.  I am very happy to just use my username for the subdomain.  Thanks, Paul.

    41. Wayne Tully profile image60
      Wayne Tullyposted 5 years ago

      I'm actually hopeful of all the hard work the HP gang have put in, the stats examples are encouraging and I may just feel motivated to finish my unpublished hubs again as I've kept looking at some of them for a few months now with no oomph to write.....cheers now!

    42. Nell Rose profile image90
      Nell Roseposted 5 years ago

      I am just doing it, and its taken about 15 minutes so far, is this normal?

      1. Fawntia profile image
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        Fawntiaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Nell, I see that you have chosen a subdomain, but have not activated it yet. Did you click on the button that says "Move me to my subdomain"? It should not take 15 minutes or anywhere near that long. Perhaps refresh the page and try again.

        1. Nell Rose profile image90
          Nell Roseposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Hi, I clicked on it, and it is saying 'waiting for http etc, and my computer is doing something, not sure what! shall I give it another click?

          1. Fawntia profile image
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            Fawntiaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Yes. Please refresh the page and click on the button again.

            1. Nell Rose profile image90
              Nell Roseposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks Fawntia

      2. Glenn Stok profile image96
        Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Neil, There's a second step where it asks you to confirm your selection.

        1. Nell Rose profile image90
          Nell Roseposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Hi, no the silly thing got stuck! Figures! ha ha but its fine now, thanks

          1. Fawntia profile image
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            Fawntiaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Great! I'm glad you got it to work.

            1. HSanAlim profile image53
              HSanAlimposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Hi Fawntia
              I sent you an email about a weird redirect problem my daughter is having. Hope you can get it corrected. Thanks Alim

              1. Fawntia profile image
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                Fawntiaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Alim, I just responded to your email.

    43. Nell Rose profile image90
      Nell Roseposted 5 years ago

      That's it, it's okay! thanks, must be my stupid computer! thanks for your help.

    44. rebekahELLE profile image91
      rebekahELLEposted 5 years ago

      It's nice to hear you're happy with the results, and I was just thinking the same thing about an authors responsibility. I'm sure this will help separate the wheat from the chaff, and inspire hubbers to publish higher quality work.

    45. soni2006 profile image45
      soni2006posted 5 years ago

      Moved to my subdomain perfectly. I love my old username, soni2006, and do not like to get any other specific username. Soni2006 reminds me about my online writing career which I started in 2006. Plus as I write on multiple categories and subjects, I think I don't need a different username. What do you say about this? Will changing my username to a different one will help build more traffic and earnings?

    46. JSAlison profile image60
      JSAlisonposted 5 years ago

      If this change really returns my traffic to pre panda levels, or close, I will be back here working full time. I'm guessing a lot of  other people will be checking this all out and thinking the same thing.

      Let's face it, there is no better site for writers.

    47. brandonhart100 profile image83
      brandonhart100posted 5 years ago

      I moved to my subdomain but I Have one last concern.

      As was mentioned in Paul's post poor content on HubPages led to decreased traffic for the entire site.  In the "related hubs" section of our hubs - the related hubs are chosen not by the author of the hub, but by other means.

      I'm no longer comfortable with these being chosen for me as it seems this could allow my hubs to be linked to poorly written content (even if it has a high "score") which in turn affects my subdomain.

      It only makes sense that if we are trying to build our own brand we can choose if and when certain "related hubs" are chosen...

      Will this lead to increased greed by Hubbers who only link to their related hubs?  Of Course.  Does this bother me?  Not really, as I believe this should be author controlled at this point.

      Have there been any discussions about this?

    48. Mark Ewbie profile image81
      Mark Ewbieposted 5 years ago

      I'm normally a bit of a moaner but I have to say that was the easiest technical thing I have ever done.

      Apart from remembering where I met my wife.

      1. bgamall profile image85
        bgamallposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Where did you meet your wife Mark? smile

        This was easy. Maybe things will be better again!

        1. celebritie profile image75
          celebritieposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Mark don't forget to vote in the Hubbie Awards it started today.

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        writeronlineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Hi Mark, sorry to horn in on your entry, but I just wanted to reiterate your exact comment - easiest 'technical' thing I've ever done. (Except sharpen my pencil, but no-one ever does that these days..). Won't this be G R E A T if it works? I'm off now to read your article on the subject, which I noticed because it's got billing on the HP Front Page!! (They want you here, Mark, clearly...)

    49. BaliMermaid profile image60
      BaliMermaidposted 5 years ago

      Would anyone like to know my NEW definition of excitement?

      Excitement is setting up a google alert for the subject of my hubs, not even an alert for my new subdomain name, and watching one by one the alert come in as Google indexes them.

      WAHOO - THANK YOU HUBPAGES - Paul and everyone

    50. RedElf profile image85
      RedElfposted 5 years ago

      Done and fingers crossed big_smile Thanks, guys!

    51. sunforged profile image65
      sunforgedposted 5 years ago

      its only been a few hours but G already has the new subdomain listed in google results for this profile

      seems like the PR3 is gone for now though sad

      1. IzzyM profile image86
        IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        At least some of hubs are indexed already, but the PR 2s and 3s now read n/a sad

    52. lender3212000 profile image86
      lender3212000posted 5 years ago

      Has anyone attempted to ping individual hub URLs after the move to the new subdomain? I'm curious as to whether or not this will speed the indexing. I'd love to hear from anyone who has tried it.

      1. kmackey32 profile image81
        kmackey32posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        no but sounds like a great idea

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