Lost Google AdSense, So Lost HubPages Ad Program Too???

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   Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years ago

   So, the HubPages Ad Program is based on having Google AdSense? Well, I'm one of the thousands who lost their AdSense account without much explanation, so now I can no longer make any money on HubPages? I can no longer benefit from Amazon because I live in California and they cancelled our affiliate status, thanks to our governor. So, now I would just be writing on HubPages for fun. Well, I guess the hub I'm currently working on may be my final one.

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      IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry to hear that Sylvia. Did you have a high click through rate?Have you tried appealing to Adsense?  If it was me I'd be moving Hell or high water to try and get that account back. I'm assuming you didn't click on your own ads.
      I think the only other way to monetise hubs is through eBay but you need to have your own site to get approval into the eBay program.

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         Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Izzy. Yes, I appealed. it was denied. I'm pretty new to AdSense and only had 4 click! Only received their generic message without much explanation. They're suspending people right and left. It's all over the internet.  With AdSense, if you do something wrong, you're cancelled. You may not even be aware that your're doing anything wrong. No warnings. I've switched my other sites to AdSense alternatives and they're working quite well. Doesn't help me with HubPages though.

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            Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            So what did they say you did wrong?

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               Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               'suspicious activity' that posed a threat to the advertiser! LOL I had around 600 page views and 4 clicks! And that was over a 2-3 month span!!! Never are you given any specifics. Yep, I'm a threat. Better call Homeland Security!

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                  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Were all 4 of the clicks made on the same hub?  If the clicks came from the same IP address it would appear suspicious.

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                     Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     No.. I had AdSense on other site other that HubPages.

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                        Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        My point is that it seems that the world now revolves around Google. It's too bad. No one should have that much power. They give us little to no recourse. All I can say is be careful.

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      Ms Deeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I started noticing yesterday that no hubber has the usual AdSense ads in the middle column. Is this, though, unrelated?

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      Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What a pain, and it's also frightening that it can happen so easily.  I can't see any way they would cancel your account for 4 clicks - the only thing I can think is that someone else abused your account in some way.   
      
      You're right, it's pointless to write any more on HubPages.  Start your own blog and join some affiliate networks like ShareASale, Linkshare, Affiliate Future etc.  I wrote a Hub on how to monetize Blogger which is relevant - but you can use any blogging platform.
      
      Once you've got your blog started and have some decent content, you can apply to eBay too.
      
      I don't even use Adsense or Amazon on most of my blogs and they're more profitable than HubPages for me now.

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         Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I have four blogs already and they are now re-monetized with other networks because they were with AdSense as well. Alternative sites are rapidly expanding because of the AdSense issue. They are easier to use and some even pay better. It's just that I really, really like Hub Pages and have made a lot of friends. My score has dropped 4 points in the past two days since the AdSense issue.

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            jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Sylvia,
            If you want the best performing monetizing options, feel free to email me. As of today I have 300 qualified clicks and over 40k impressions. You can still keep your articles here, else move them to a new location and earn from EPC, EPI and EPS. No more splitting, sharing, etc. Straight up 100% for every Lead, Product and some cases Impressions.
            
            
            James.

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               Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks jacharless!

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            Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            WOW! I'm now down to an 89!!! So, what, our score is based on AdSense...NOT "quality"???? Because my hubs sure haven't changed....

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               Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               No, your score isn't based on Adsense.
               
               Here's the basis of your score:
               
               http://darkside.hubpages.com/hub/hubberscore

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                  Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I beg to differ. That site list 'some' of the things that can affect your score. It is not a definitive list.  Remember, HP has a relationship with Google.  It's fine though. I'm much better off without AdSense. Found a much better source, and one that doesn't take 60% like Google.

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                     Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Not really.  HP has an Adsense account, just like you and me.  If they had a relationship with Google, Google wouldn't have crucified them in the Panda update, and Google would also have helped them recover.   Whereas the owner of HubPages had to go on a public forum to get help from Google, just like any of us would.

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                        Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Whatever. It's moot now.

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                        jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Google Relationship with Hub Pages is touch-n-go. One of the problems they faced back in the day was 'favoritism' of certain (publishing) sites and advertisers. Naturally, they do not want a public backlash.
                        
                        The core of it, HubPages was the pilot program for Revenue Sharing. The main reason, I believe, was because of Paul's excellent Yield Build program coupled with the potential for Google to make a bundle off of ads thru HP and remain the top tier server. But, yes, they do have a strong relationship with Google DoubleClick program, else Hubbers would not need an AdSense pub # to participate in the Hub Ad program.
                        
                        If HP is still serving Ads via Widgetbox (now an amazing 'cloud ad' brand called Flite ), they have better options and a means to offer more to Hubbers, IMO.
                        Flite is available to publishers, as an alternative for non-AdSense affiliates! I am guessing, but not sure, if HP is possibly sharing 60/40 on Flite Ads in the HubAd Program. If yes, this would be very nice. If no, then a terrible injustice is happening.
                        
                        Sidebar: AdSense/DoubleClick is facing stiff competition with companies like Flite, and a few others, offering better shell programming, platforms and service options. My guess is when Microsoft Pub Center relaunches, a lot of people are going to jump on it and drop AdSense. 
                        
                        
                        James.

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                           Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Thanks a million for you explanation.  I really hate it when someone tells me I don't know what I'm talking about! LOL

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                           Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           James, Hubbes need an Adsense pub # because Adsense ads are still displayed a part of the HubPages Ad program, that's all.
                           
                           You are explaining HP's commercial relationship with Google but I see nothing in your explanation which suggests that relationship is in any way "special" or "close".  It's just another client.

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                              jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              I agree, those Ads are, which technically makes it a special program. As said, HP should also be adding incentive by offering options:
                              
                              a) AdSense or b) Flite [WidgetBox] c) alternate In-Text Ads
                              
                              So users have a choice, and access to revenue generation, should one or the other fail. The thing of it, users are the ones sustaining the site, pulling traffic and allowing ads to be shown. If HP really wants to show appreciation and increase publishers: a show of kindness is in order. Not just "oh thanks" or "we're working on it" but more like grease the palm with pesos --or else a much wider and broader avenue for greasing.
                              
                              If half the users here understood how the progs work, and how to run sites, a lot of this "Ad Hording" would stop. Sorry, for venting, but it gets my neck up, when good people are worth $5 to $100 per click ++ a whole bunch of other stuff and only get $0.05 to $1.00 per.
                              
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                     psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     The score is clearly based on what you do, or don't do, right here on Hubpages.  It is fully automated and so can hardly be based on offsite information or some kind of conspiracy.
                     
                     Nor do I see an evidence Hubpages has a special relationship with Adsense.  Or if they do they are the website equivalent of an abused spouse, getting no favors and a lot of harassment.

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                        Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        exactly!

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         RNMSNposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Marisa, can I use affiliate future on blogging.com?

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   sofsposted 12 years ago

   Sylvia why don't you post this problem on the Google support site.. you will have your problem addressed faster that way. My best wishes to you.

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      Sylvia's Thoughtsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Sofs!

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   Ms Deeposted 12 years ago

   In case anyone else is wondering, I just found an answer to my above question here:
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/79509

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