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Warning about Google images

  1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago

    I was hubhopping today and came across maybe 3 hubs that had official Google logos on their hubs. You should be aware that you need permission to use Google logos.

    "These Brand Features can be used only pursuant to these Guidelines, our Terms and Conditions, and for the specific purposes for which Google has given permission...

    The only time you can use Brand Features without advance written permission is if there is clear and express language on our website stating that you can use those Brand Features without first obtaining permission, such as is the case with our search boxes."

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image92
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing an example or two here about what sort of photo/logo you are describing?

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
        Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I guess the main Google logo would be one, like Mark copied smile

        1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image92
          Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Ah!  I see - I was reading something more complicated into it than it was.

  2. mythbuster profile image86
    mythbusterposted 5 years ago

    Thanks for the reminder, Uninvited Writer. I hadn't seen the Google logos being used around the site but I am seeing other images that I am sure HPTeam or someone else will flag soon as being "stolen" or "used without permission." I also haven't been very active here in the past months, so I am not viewing things, in general, here.

    I should check my own hubs - earliest ones I put pictures to while still very inexperienced at the site.

    I use google searches for images then go to the fine-print/Terms of Use page when I find images I feel I'd like to use, then make decisions on image use from there. Luckily, I don't write articles I feel need to have major site/brand images on them, so I think I'm pretty safe with images I've already put up.

  3. LuisEGonzalez profile image79
    LuisEGonzalezposted 5 years ago

    You really should conduct research into copyright laws/Fair Use Doctrine etc...
    There are some applications that permit the uses of not only images but logos too; news stories, critiques, comparisons, analysis, reviews, educational and a couple more uses that do not require you to obtain permission.

    However, with private publishing platforms this can be different as they put in their TOS whatever tickles their fancy.

    Nevertheless you should always attempt to at least get permission since its the right thing to do and always give credit.......cool

    If one has a few hours to read you may want to browse this
    http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html

    This may help one get a better understanding to compare to the opinions of some of the HP "experts".......wink

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
      Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Google has the right to say when and where their images are used; they ask you to ask for permission.

      Do not patronize me, I am well aware of fair use and copyright...

      "The difficulty in claiming fair use is that there is no way to guarantee that your use will qualify as fair. You may believe that your use qualifies—but, if the copyright owner disagrees, you may have to resolve the dispute in a courtroom. Even if you ultimately persuade the court that your use was in fact a fair use, the expense and time involved in litigation may well outweigh any benefit of using the material in the first place."

      1. LuisEGonzalez profile image79
        LuisEGonzalezposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What makes you think that I was referring to you??? If that would have been my intention I would have made it known. My comment was directed more to mythbuster than anyone else plus anyone else who may have other questions. Be very assured that if I have anything to say to anyone I will make it known.

        My comments do not address your points either about court proceedings which are very real and you are also right that Fair Use is mostly a defense than anything else not a Carte Blanche & yes even Google is bound by Fair Use. Although as you point out who in their right mind would take on Google.

        I'm sorry if you assumed that my remarks were directed at you because they were not, you would have had no doubts nor would I have had any qualms were they originally intended for your persona.

  4. Mark Ewbie profile image81
    Mark Ewbieposted 5 years ago

    http://s3.hubimg.com/u/5615354_f248.jpg

    You can use this one if you like...

    .. at least I think you can.  Maybe I broke a law somewhere?

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
      Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I don't know about that lol

  5. Mark Ewbie profile image81
    Mark Ewbieposted 5 years ago

    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/5615359_f248.jpg

    While I'm about it...

    By the way I don't think this is self publicity, it's just being helpful.

    1. Greekgeek profile image96
      Greekgeekposted 5 years ago

      Redrawing a company's trademark or copyright doesn't absolve you of violating trademark or copyright laws.

      It's just like selling bootleg Mickey Mouse drawings. Disney could come after you. To say nothing of the scary legal juggernaut that is Hello Kitty. (I'm not kidding; they came after an artist I know who was drawing hilarious Hello Chthulu cartoons.)

      1. Mark Ewbie profile image81
        Mark Ewbieposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks Greekgeek, I am now officially worried.  On the plus side, the fridge magents I am selling with the "you know what" symbol on them should become quite rare and valuable in the event of a trial.

        I shall position myself as the little guy against corporate, er, bigness.

        Strictly speaking, and this will form an important part of my defence, Google, is a word from the dictionary - it means a lot of zeroes.

        1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
          Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          They are coming to get you smile

          1. Mark Ewbie profile image81
            Mark Ewbieposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I'm wondering now if my Google doodlings are why I have failed to make huge amounts of money from writing stuff on the web.  I upset someone in a high place.
            Hopefully they won't discover I called Matt Cutts a homosexual.

        2. WriteAngled profile image90
          WriteAngledposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I believe there is actually a get-out under the "fair use" concept, which permits the use of trademarks and logos for satirical purposes.

    2. Mark Ewbie profile image81
      Mark Ewbieposted 5 years ago

      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/5615665_f248.jpg

      Would the panel consider the above to be an infringement of anything?

      1. Haunty profile image84
        Hauntyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        It's an infringement of people's right to stay in a bad mood.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          lol

    3. Greekgeek profile image96
      Greekgeekposted 5 years ago

      Mark, the Chaotic Good side of me suspects that Google is less aggressive about chasing people down than some companies.

      OH.

      Question. Does Hubpages allow us to use the <img> tag in Text Capsules? If so, one could simply sign up for Zazzle, then embed Google Doodles as affiliate links. The problem is that according to Zazzle's affiliate TOS, you may NOT take the graphics and re-upload them (say, into a photo capsule); you actually have to leave them hosted on Zazzle and use affiliate links to display them, so that the artist/owner retains control over the graphics.

      Edit: drat, it doesn't let us, does it? Scratch that idea. hmm

     
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