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The whole "Amazon and Hubpages" controversy... HERE, this helps.

  1. Greekgeek profile image98
    Greekgeekposted 4 years ago

    Wow, I knew my stupid degree in Latin and Greek was still good for something, even though I've completely forgotten my Greek. HERE. Let me offer my skills as an interpreter.

    A lot of people are having trouble interpreting this section of Hubpages' new FAQ about its Amazon policy.

    Some Hubbers are misunderstanding the part I've marked with bold.  Hubpages is NOT telling us that we can't be Amazon Associates. It's NOT telling us that we can't sell through Amazon Associates on other websites. It's NOT telling us that we can't buy from Amazon. (If Hubpages said any of those things, Amazon would be mighty annoyed).

    All it's saying is that, since sales from Amazon capsules will be credited to Hubpages' associates ID, not ours, then there's not much point in getting your own Amazon Associates ID, since it won't work with Hubpages' Amazon capsule.

    This is a specific recommendation about Amazon on Hubpages; it says nothing whatsoever about how you can use Amazon anywhere outside of Hubpages. And the verbiage simply says "we do not recommend" which is NOT the same thing as "we forbid."

    Existing Amazon Associates have other, very important and valid reasons to be frustrated by this change, but it's not forcing us to stop being Amazon Associates elsewhere.  Hubpages has no right to do that, and couldn't, and wouldn't.

    1. Xenonlit profile image60
      Xenonlitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Can we newbies get clear on this? I'm lost in all of the cutsie titles and buzz words.

      Does this mean that we are not getting 15% if someone buys from one of the Amazon ads that we put on our hubs or not?

      1. Rising Caren profile image81
        Rising Carenposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        It means eventually the amazon capsules will not support people's amazon id and instead will only use HP's.

        I don't know where you're getting 15%. Only certain departments of amazon offer high commissions. Regular amazon offers 4-8%, depending on your volume of sales.

        Actually, people who do well on HP (here and other places) might end up losing out on commission. Assuming HP still keeps the same percent share like it does for ads (40%), that means people would earn 4.8% commission once HP takes its share. For those who get enough views to qualify for 6 or 8%, that might be  a downside. The bright side is that now we won't have to worry about not getting credit for sales if they happen during HP's views, since now the views won't be split.

        1. Pcunix profile image89
          Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          No, you've misunderstood that totally.  They don't take 40% of your earnings, they take 40% of your views.  HP gets 40% of your views now, so that doesn't change anything.   If you are at a low Amazon tier now, this will improve your earnings.

          The reason the high earners may lose is because they have enough volume to get a high rate from Amazon now, both here and everywhere else they use their Amazon ID.  They'll get the same or better rate here, but they'll lose the volume from here, so they might no longer get a high tier elsewhere.

          1. Xenonlit profile image60
            Xenonlitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Based on this being my first Amazon association, I'll stick with it. I have plenty of time, since my views need work!  I still can't believe how people get up to 20,000 views.

            1. Pcunix profile image89
              Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              They get there by having popular hubs or a lot of mildly popular one.   But 20,000 views is not much - twenty thou a DAY would be something to brag about.

  2. donotfear profile image91
    donotfearposted 4 years ago

    So what happens to us Arkansas residents who got booted from Amazon a few months back because of some issue over sales tax?  I pulled a lot of Amazon capsules after that and started going with Ebay, since I got accepted there.

    Does it mean the Arkansas people will be able to collect our earnings on Amazon thru the Hubpages plan?

    1. Greekgeek profile image98
      Greekgeekposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I think so.  But that's not spelled out in the FAQ, so I can't play "interpreter" on that. smile

      However, I'm guessing from experience that it will probably work that way. (It works that way on Squidoo: I was still able to earn commissions through Squidoo's Amazon modules when my own California Amazon Associate account was shut down.)

      Note that I didn't open this thread to discuss all the ins and outs of Hubpages' new Amazon policy -- there's already a thread for that.

      I just wanted to clarify this one point -- yes, we can still be Amazon Associates elsewhere-- because it was getting lost in the firestorm, and I've seen several people expressing distress about it.

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    Giselle Maineposted 4 years ago

    Does this mean that we have to be on the HP ad program to earn via Amazon? If we have opted out of HP ad program (and are on Adsense only) does that mean we won't be able to earn anything from Amazon?

    1. QuestionMaster profile image88
      QuestionMasterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You can be part of the Hubpages Earning Program (which includes HP ads, eBay and Amazon) but not use the HP ads if you wish.