Hot off the press (like, a couple of minutes or so ago). Surely filtering out this kind of garbage at source (by putting new hubbers on probation) is where HP should be concentrating its moderating efforts.
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determine? Surely most women would say that the man who
PURSUIT and women who DETERMINE "Eligible or Not" was the man
a couple woman.
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drink, but they drank
slowly ... they enjoy the sweetness
every drop of drink. And if the
the drink is up, they WILL"
I take it that there is a pixilated picture to complete the set.
There is so much of this stuff that relying on members to use the Hub Hopper is rather like using a child's plastic spade to clean out an entire sewage plant. Well maybe that's a slight exaggeration but even so.
Besides, if there is the means available to stop this stuff at source, why should we do HubPages' work for free? I don't for a moment think you can ever keep out all the spam, but you can reduce it considerably without relying on volunteer moderators, by using filters that stop hubs from being published if they're below a certain word count, and putting new members on probation so that their first few hubs are moderated.
It seems that HubPages is concentrating its quality control efforts in the wrong place when it bans long-standing users like Hello, Hello - who seemed to genuinely want to fix whatever was wrong with her hubs - and in the meantime, shows no will to prevent the site from being flooded with spun crap.
I don't disagree, but I really would like to hear HP's side of the story - why they think they can't tighten the reins on new users. Other sites do it, why doesn't HP?
They may have reasons that I haven't thought about. I suspect that I'd end up agreeing with you, but still..
I suppose you could argue that the present system is fairer in that they get a wide range of opinions rather than just the opinions of one or two paid hacks.
And who's to say that the first however many hubs may be good but the umpteenth might not be a load of carp?
I quite like the hopper, it introduces me to some good and interesting hubs on topics that I often wouldn't think to look for.
AFAIK the only hubs that you see in the Hopper are new ones. Hello, Hello's hubs were moderated by actual humans (or actual humans working in conjunction with some kind of automated bot thingy - I presume it's the bot that checks everyone's hubs for "violations" every couple of days or so). So there are really two separate systems at work here - one for hubs of long standing, and one for new hubs.
I very rarely use the Hopper because it's quite depressing although yes, you do see one or two good hubs in amongst the carp. And as I said, I don't see why I should do someone else's work for them and not get paid for it!
For the same reason you might pick up a piece of trash on the sidewalk, report a crime, testify in court for or against a stranger. It makes the whole community better and more prosperous.
Well yes, but. If I felt that Hub Hopping were a genuinely good use of my time (i.e. if I felt that it made a real difference to the overall spam level rather than being the equivalent of a child's spade in a sewer plant), I might do the occasional bit of it myself. As it is, forget it. You carry on being the "good citizen" if that's what you want though!
Well, many hands make light work or something like that. If we all do just a teeny bit, it adds up.
I can't take very much of the Hopper before the bile builds up in my throat and I have to quit, but I do keep going back because even though it feels like shoveling poop against the tide, if enough of us shovel, maybe we get rid of a good pile of it.
Yes, but why should we "shovel" when HP won't even put in a simple thing like a word count filter?
Don't any of you feel that there's something wrong with this picture somewhere?
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