A constant sea of blue arrows?

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wildernessposted 5 years ago

I don't get it.  Every day, every single day, I have a virtual sea of blue arrows on my hubs.  Right now, I show 22 blue arrows and 2 red ones.  Almost all on the bottom hubs - those hubs getting 5 or less views per day.

This has been going on for months now - every day nearly 20% of my hubs show blue arrows.  While overall traffic has shown a slow but steady gain.  If a hub that goes from 4 views yesterday to 0 views today is deserving of blue, why doesn't it get a red when it reverses and gets 5 views tomorrow?

If so many hubs are decreasing in traffic every day, why aren't 90% of my hubs at 0 views by now?  Judging by the relationship of blue to red arrows I should by now have a steady stream of 0 traffic days instead of the slow increase I actually have.  Heck, even when Monday rolls around and I have the normal traffic increase of 25% compared to the weekend it is still a sea of blue with two or three red arrows.

How does this work?

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lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

I don't know. Its in the algorithm again maybe secret like the scores.

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wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

Could be.  Maybe a random number generator picks out which hubs with less than 10 views gets blue and which gets red.  At least, if you shift the results way to one side, it matches what I see!

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lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

Yup because some days hubs rise by lots and i get no reds and the next day just one or two views above the normal and double red arrow!

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mary615posted 5 years ago in reply to this

I've given up trying to understand the blue and red arrows!

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Jlbowdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

I agree with Mary-why let the blue and red arrows drive everyone nuts. As long as we love what we do best here and that is to write articles. Let the rest of it fall into the big vast pool of unsolved algorithms. Same goes for individual hubber scores and hub article scores. It is sometimes hard to determine what influences them. As long we are doing what we enjoy doing and make a few cents, or dollars doing it.

Jl

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wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

You're right, of course.  A year ago I watched the arrows to some degree - a blue one meant that I should look at the numbers, and maybe check the stats for that hub.  A red one meant that if it was more than just a day, maybe I should try to evaluate that hub to see what was right with it and continue the practice.

That was all a year ago, though.  Now all that blue just adds a little color to an otherwise rather drab page.  That's it.  Nothing more that I can find.

If a blue arrow meant that the hub has seen a 24 hour, 25% drop in traffic that was also more than, say, a 20 view drop compared to the last weeks average - why then it might mean something.  It might be something to check into.  The way it is gives nothing to us.

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SomewayOuttaHereposted 5 years ago

...arrows?

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mary615posted 5 years ago in reply to this

not arrows:  shapes of triangles.  Traffic is either increasing (red), or decreasing (blue).

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relacheposted 5 years ago

For Hubs with really low traffic numbers, even one or two visits more or less can trigger the arrows.  If you go through and edit a bunch of your Hubs, even your own visits can set them off.

They are meant to indicate only the most broad trends.  If you really want to figure out what's happening, go look at the Analytics for your Hubs.

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wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

I understand fully what you are saying, and if that were the actual reason I should see red ones, too, but I never do.  Blue outnumbers red by 10 to 1 every day.  It's as if the algorithm governing blue isn't the same as that putting forth the red.

You're right about analytics, though - I depend on HP numbers and such only for a very rough approximation - just as an attention getter kind of thing.  Analytics and WMT I use for actual information and work.

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recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

It is a simple relationship between number of views and time, one view in one month, becomes half a view if counted over a two month period.   eg.

20 views over 5 months (4 views per month) on a rising trend will give you UP arrows,

if your views reduce by one view then that will show a DOWN arrow

and this will continue to show you a DOWN arrow until you get an UP trend - for which you need at least
the one you lost, PLUS your previous average  4 views

or something similar depending on how the formula is constructed.

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LeanManposted 5 years ago

Ignore arrows on those hubs that only get a few visits, as relache says it only takes one or two visits extra or less to trigger them.

I normally sort my hubs by daily visits when I check, the top two thirds of my list rarely contains any arrows, certainly very rare to see blue ones anyway but some red ones as hubs pick up. In the bottom third I just check to see that I don't have any hubs that normally have double figures daily suddenly dropping off the searches - If I do I normally just do a little tweak and things tend to pick back up....

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