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"Changed" column in Hub stats

  1. Jason Menayan profile image60
    Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago

    Hey everyone,

    A few weeks ago, we encouraged, via a Learning Center entry, with mentions in the newsletter, blog, a podcast and the forum, that refreshing older Hubs that had gotten search traffic before, but had seen that diminish, with meaningful additions of useful content, might help get a boost of Google love.

    A suggestion was made by Marisa Wright for a column to let you know when a change was made to a Hub. We thought it was a good one, and it has now been rolled out. On your My Account stats page, you'll see the final column will tell you when a Hub was last edited. Keep in mind that any edit at all will refresh the date on this, even if you made small changes that are not necessarily meaningful enough to prompt a refresh in the eyes of search engines.

    So, thanks for the suggestion, and we hope you find this feature useful in updating your Hubs!

    1. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Absolutely!!! And many thanks!!!

    2. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Anyone want to take a stab on what the search engine refresh threshhold is? That would be something good to know.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image89
        paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Content checksum percentage change for example? If so, what is the percentage of change that would initiate refresh?

        1. Debby Bruck profile image86
          Debby Bruckposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          "search engine refresh threshhold"

          Can someone please explain this what it means and how we can use this information.

          I would also like to learn more about how people will use this new information about when their hubs were last changed with updates or refinements to titles, capsules, text, graphics, etc?

          Thanks in advance
          Debby

          1. Marisa Wright profile image92
            Marisa Wrightposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Google has said one of the criteria they use is "freshness". What we don't know is the exact definition of that term.  How fresh do they expect, i.e what's the "refresh threshold"?  Yesterday? Last week?  Last month?  So unfortunately we can't make use of this information because we don't know it.



            For me, the main use will be when I need to modify Hubs to meet rule changes by HubPages or the search engines.  The other reason use will be when I start a new project.  For instance, I might start a new website about ballet, or find a new ballet product I want to promote - so I would want to add new links on each of my ballet Hubs. The date will enable me to be sure I don't miss any of the Hubs that need attention.

            1. Debby Bruck profile image86
              Debby Bruckposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Great suggestion. That's staying on your 'toes'
              smile

      2. Glenn Stok profile image96
        Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        paradigmsearch, funny you should ask. Google has a blog about their freshness algorithm that they released in November.  http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/ … earch.html

        1. paradigmsearch profile image89
          paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks!

          Darn, they declined to "give away the secret sauce". big_smile

          So, I guess until someone comes along with a better guess, I'll use my guess.

          1. Glenn Stok profile image96
            Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Oh, so you want to know the methods?  Justin Briggs, an SEO blogger, wrote about evaluating freshness in detail. Are you ready for a long read?

            http://justinbriggs.org/methods-for-eva … -freshness

            1. lobobrandon profile image83
              lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks Glenn. I've bookmarked the page - breezed through the algorithm looks great will read through it later in the day

            2. paradigmsearch profile image89
              paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Glenn, you are awesome. smile

            3. Peggy W profile image91
              Peggy Wposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks Glen.  Will have to take a look at this when I have a moment for a "long read."  smile

    3. SuperheroSales profile image61
      SuperheroSalesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      This was a great addition!  Thank you for adding this column, this was definitely on my wish list.  It will make "spring cleaning" much easier.

  2. Glenn Stok profile image96
    Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago

    Thanks Jason. This is absolutely wonderful!  I'm going to make good use out of this extra column. I also like the way I can sort by modification date. Very helpful indeed!  Thanks again and thanks also to Marisa for suggesting it.

  3. wilderness profile image95
    wildernessposted 5 years ago

    Thanks to both HP and Marisa for this; it will be valuable.

    A question, though - are comments "changes"?  It would appear that they are not, but can HP confirm this?

    1. Jason Menayan profile image60
      Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      No, comments don't count. But editing your Hub and doing anything (changing your title, moving Capsules around, adding/changing a summary, etc) will trigger a date change.

      1. Glenn Stok profile image96
        Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I also noticed that changing tags updates the date too. Even without going into edit mode.

        1. Jason Menayan profile image60
          Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, even though you can edit tags from your author view of a page, it counts as a change to the Hub in our database.

    2. Marisa Wright profile image92
      Marisa Wrightposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I can't take the credit for this - it was suggested by a couple of other Hubbers (Relache? IzzyM?) in the middle of a discussion, and I just thought it was a good enough idea to be worth starting a special thread about.

      Thanks to HP for implementing it!

      1. IzzyM profile image87
        IzzyMposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I may have suggested it in a thread, but the idea came from you, I think:)

        Well done, and well done to HP for implementing it smile

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Now, now - no fighting, ladies.  It is unbecoming to dancers and sad purple monsters alike. 

          You may both have credit.  Although...does that mean it takes 2 ladies to find one good idea? *ducks and runs for cover*

      2. relache profile image88
        relacheposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I've been complaining this should have been never been dropped ever since they took it away. (edited dates have been AWOL for a few years)

        Thanks for finally bringing this back!

      3. viryabo profile image87
        viryaboposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I remember the discussion that day and you, Izzy and Relache did voice some suggestions on having a way to know what hubs we have worked on and which ones we haven't.

        I absolutely love this new feature because i was beginning to loose track of my updates.

  4. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    I think it's sorting by year - day - month,

    instead of,

    year - month - day.

    Leastwise, mine is. Honest! smile

    1. Glenn Stok profile image96
      Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      After leaving my last comment I started paying closer attention. paradigmsearch is right.  Something is weird about the way it's sorting. The "published" column sorts correctly.

    2. Jason Menayan profile image60
      Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You're right - thank you for reporting this. I'll let engineering know about it; it should be an easy fix. smile

      1. Glenn Stok profile image96
        Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Jason, While on the subject of adding columns, I'd like to suggest including columns in the "All Earnings Report" for each of the programs... the Ad Program, eBay, Amazon (when active), and Total. Right now it just has one column showing "Earnings."

        This will eliminate the need to click each individually. If one wants to see more info, such as Ad Impressions, Ad CPM, eBay Clicks or eBay EPC, then they can still click the individual reports.

        I think that showing columns with individual earnings in the main report would be helpful.

        1. Jason Menayan profile image60
          Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          That is a nice idea, and there looks to be "real estate" in that report. I'll file a ticket for this; thank you for the suggestion. smile

          1. Glenn Stok profile image96
            Glenn Stokposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Jason,  I just noticed it was done today. That was fast! It's nice having all the earnings in one place now. No more clicking around. Thank you to you and to the rest of the staff who did the programming. smile

            1. Jason Menayan profile image60
              Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I will pass on your thanks to the engineering team; all I did was file the ticket! smile Thank you for the suggestion.

          2. lobobrandon profile image83
            lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            The update is fantastic wink

  5. cardelean profile image88
    cardeleanposted 5 years ago

    LOVE this update!  Thanks Marissa and HP!

  6. Rosie2010 profile image84
    Rosie2010posted 5 years ago

    Marisa, what a great idea!

    Hubpages, thanks for the addition.

  7. twentyfive profile image81
    twentyfiveposted 5 years ago

    wow, thank you Marissa and Hubpages smile

  8. Anamika S profile image71
    Anamika Sposted 5 years ago

    That's a real cool feature. Wish we had the hub word count also so that one does not have to check out each an every hub to see which hub to add content to. Also if we could insert picture in between hubs using the text capsule would have been awesome too.

  9. sabrebIade profile image85
    sabrebIadeposted 5 years ago

    Hmmmm...none of the changes I made in February are showing up.
    It all stops at 1-31-2012.
    But I have updated 16 Hubs so far this month.
    (I write them down...LOL)

  10. lobobrandon profile image83
    lobobrandonposted 5 years ago

    Thanks for the great improvement. It wont be useful to me at present; but, surely in the long run - Thanks again everyone who made this happen cool

  11. SimeyC profile image90
    SimeyCposted 5 years ago

    Thanks for this! Howver - seems the sorting algorithm is slightly off - did you borrow code from Panda yikes

    I have Jan 31 at the top - then some Feb changes interspersed...

  12. AEvans profile image70
    AEvansposted 5 years ago

    Impressive! Thank you Marissa for the suggestion that is now implemented. Thank you HP for implementing a useful tool.smile

  13. Peggy W profile image91
    Peggy Wposted 5 years ago

    I think that this will be a very helpful tool for all of us to use.  Thanks HP staff for implementing it and thanks to the people who are responsible for making the suggestion.  smile

  14. ripplemaker profile image90
    ripplemakerposted 5 years ago

    Wonderful!!! Thanks Marisa! Thanks HP!  big_smile

  15. dipless profile image85
    diplessposted 5 years ago

    Great addition thanks

  16. Kris Heeter profile image86
    Kris Heeterposted 5 years ago

    Thanks for this addition!  It will be very useful - and thanks to all for the additional information and links to further conversation on google, etc.

  17. KCC Big Country profile image83
    KCC Big Countryposted 5 years ago

    Love it!  Thanks Relache, Marisa, Izzy, etc. for pursuing this and thanks to Jason and HP for implementing it!

  18. Thelma Alberts profile image81
    Thelma Albertsposted 5 years ago

    Thanks for the addition. Thank you Marisa and the HP staff.

  19. livewithrichard profile image85
    livewithrichardposted 5 years ago

    This was a good add. It is especially helpful when you have a lot of hubs that you need to tweak and keep track of the last tweaks. +++

  20. Scribenet profile image83
    Scribenetposted 5 years ago

    Thank you! I love the continuous improvements. I like to go back and refresh dated material or just edit some of the content. This will help me manage the Hubs more efficiently!

  21. DeborahNeyens profile image95
    DeborahNeyensposted 5 years ago

    This is great.  I love that Hubpages does listen to suggestions from hubbers and is continuously improving the site to make our lives easier.  Thanks to Marisa for making the suggestion and to HP for implementing it.

  22. waynet profile image50
    waynetposted 5 years ago

    Jolly good!

  23. Mark Ewbie profile image82
    Mark Ewbieposted 5 years ago

    I hate change, but I love this one.

    Thanks.

    1. FloraBreenRobison profile image59
      FloraBreenRobisonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      wink

  24. elayne001 profile image52
    elayne001posted 5 years ago

    Kudos Hubteam! I like this newest change. Thank you very much!

  25. FloraBreenRobison profile image59
    FloraBreenRobisonposted 5 years ago

    This will be a lot of help to people needing to update their hubs. Thanks HP!

  26. K9keystrokes profile image90
    K9keystrokesposted 5 years ago

    What a great change!
    I have a question regarding refreshing our content; would creating rss link capsules based on a "hot" topic rather than a "best" topic hold more weight in terms of creating worthy fresh content? I ask because it seems the "hot" topics would be in a constantly changing state more so than "best" topics.
    Kudos to Marisa Wright and the HP Team!
    cool

    1. Jason Menayan profile image60
      Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      We discourage using RSS feeds of your own Hubs within your own Hubs as a way to introduce new content. Instead, we suggest finding opportunities to offer expanded useful information within the scope of your Hub in the form of new text, a table of relevant data, etc. smile

      1. K9keystrokes profile image90
        K9keystrokesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Outstanding Jason. Thanks so much for the feedback, very helpful. smile

  27. mary615 profile image93
    mary615posted 5 years ago

    Thanks HP!  What a great feature to have.  Again HP is doing their best to make our jobs easier and more productive.  I love HP!

    1. mary615 profile image93
      mary615posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I forgot to mention, I also like the little green button with the plus sign to make it easier to check comments, etc.  That's a great new feature, too.

  28. DzyMsLizzy profile image91
    DzyMsLizzyposted 5 years ago

    Good idea--I'll check it out.

    Meanwhile, is it just me, or is there something screwy going on with the title sort?  If I want to look up a particular hub, at nearly 200 hubs, it is easier to find on an alphabetical search, so, clicking the 'title' sort seems to do that, (but not in the library sense, of shifting articles [a, an, the]  to  the end).

    However--when I try to sort it back the way it was..it never seems to come out so.  What am I doing wrong?

    1. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      If I understand correctly...smile

      The default sort is by score. So that's the column you click to make it as was.

      There is a known problem with the "changed" sort that is being addressed.

      1. DzyMsLizzy profile image91
        DzyMsLizzyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        OHHHH!!   Ok, thanks, paradigmsearch--I was thinking it might be one of those "on/off" switch things, like a pause button, where you re-click the same thing to undo..but that seemed to just mix things up crazily.

        (How to feel stupid in one easy lesson...  neutral  )

        1. paradigmsearch profile image89
          paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Not so. This site is complicated. And getting more so every month. big_smile

  29. stephhicks68 profile image83
    stephhicks68posted 5 years ago

    Very helpful!  Thank you Jason and HP team for the change, and Marissa for suggesting it!  With lots of hubs, its hard to keep track of which ones might need attention again.

  30. Mutiny92 profile image86
    Mutiny92posted 5 years ago

    No big deal, but it cuts off the right column +1/2 while in mobile mode on my iPhone. Ext mobile mode and it works fine.

  31. Jason Menayan profile image60
    Jason Menayanposted 5 years ago

    The date sort problem from before has been fixed. smile

    1. lobobrandon profile image83
      lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Great smile
      I just checked it out and the hubs I published in Feb and even began creating in Feb aren't showing as last edited on 12th Jan big_smile

    2. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      My longest ago changed date is August 2011.

      Who can top it?

      Shouldn't be hard. big_smile

    3. sabrebIade profile image85
      sabrebIadeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yep I saw that.
      That's MUCH better...LOL

  32. cardelean profile image88
    cardeleanposted 5 years ago

    4/09/11 is my longest.  Who can beat that?

    1. lobobrandon profile image83
      lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      12/09/11 close enough

  33. Pcunix profile image88
    Pcunixposted 5 years ago

    6/17/10

    1. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I knew there had to be some 2010's out there. big_smile

  34. SimeyC profile image90
    SimeyCposted 5 years ago

    8/31/09

    1. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Oh, My! lol

      1. SimeyC profile image90
        SimeyCposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Now here's the dilemma - I have ten hubs that haven't been updated since 2009 - 5 of them are getting over 100 views a month so should I update or not?

        1. paradigmsearch profile image89
          paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          My opinion is a screaming "yes"! smile But I understand your concerns. Add to them, but apparently don't mess with certain parts of it...???

        2. lobobrandon profile image83
          lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Just try keeping the number of keywords and the sequence you put them in the same smile
          By sequence I mean the order of the synonyms of the keywords if any.
          It's not the order of the keywords in your hub but the words in the keyword I'm talking about big_smile

          Do just 2 of your hubs and check if they get an increase in traffic then proceed with the rest

    2. DzyMsLizzy profile image91
      DzyMsLizzyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I can't top that--can't go back beyond 6-15-10, as I was not here before then.  hmm

  35. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    I hereby get to announce first that I have updated one of my oldest hubs already because of this enhancement. big_smile

    1. SimeyC profile image90
      SimeyCposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Looks like I'm gonna be busy updating for the next few weeks!!!

  36. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    http://assets.portfolio.com/images/site/editorial/careers/2008/09/bomb-slide.jpg
    Hubber tinkering with an already successful hub.

    It's how I feel sometimes. big_smile

    1. DzyMsLizzy profile image91
      DzyMsLizzyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      LOL-perfect photo, paradigm--now all we need is a thumbs-up or "like" button on forum comments.  hee hee hee..

    2. viryabo profile image87
      viryaboposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      lol

  37. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    Second archaic hub updated.

  38. leenamartha profile image61
    leenamarthaposted 5 years ago

    I would also like to learn more about how people will use this new information about when their hubs were last changed with updates.

    1. Pcunix profile image88
      Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      We'll use it to easily find hubs that might need updating, of course.

      Some hubs will never need any update, of course.  But for many others, there is new information you can add, and this helps sort out which ones have been looked at recently for that purpose.

  39. Pcunix profile image88
    Pcunixposted 5 years ago

    I just noticed that this date is smart - if you edit a hub and don't really change anything in the hub itself- for example, if you just change the group or add tags - it doesn't change the "changed" date.  That's good. 

    There is one more date I'd like to see.  That's the date of the last comment made.  I added this to my own website stats listings a long, long time ago and find it very helpful.

    1. lobobrandon profile image83
      lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      If at all the last comments date is added it would have to be on the hub itself at the bottom as the accounts page is already filled big_smile

      Btw could I ask how this helps?

      1. Pcunix profile image88
        Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        The accounts page isn't full smile   The title column can be shortened and wrap a bit earlier..

        The information helps me know that even though *I* may not have updated the page, it has been updated by comments.  That likely counts as freshness for Google too. I say "likely" because Google could distinguish comments from text easily in many cases.  If they do, they may assign a lesser value to those comments and of course the length and keyword content would also matter, but the date does tell me that there has been recent activity at ;east.

        1. lobobrandon profile image83
          lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Good point regarding the shortening of the titles big_smile - was foolish to not realize that tongue

          I guess it does count as a freshness update. But the extent of freshness will be minimal as only one part is changed (no matter how many comments you get). Just my point of view.

          1. Pcunix profile image88
            Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No, that's not true.    I can show examples of pages that rank in the top spots precisely because of keywords added in comments.

            Comments can matter a lot.

            1. lobobrandon profile image83
              lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I do add keywords in my comments as far as possible no matter whether I comment on others or reply to comments on my hubs big_smile

  40. VendettaVixen profile image87
    VendettaVixenposted 5 years ago

    Huh, good to know.
    Thanks a lot for the information, Jason.

  41. Anna Marie Bowman profile image92
    Anna Marie Bowmanposted 5 years ago

    Awesome improvement!!  Thanks HP team!!!  I used to have to write it down to keep track of the Hubs I had updated, and when.  This makes it so much easier!!  Now I can see which hubs have not been updated in a while, and maybe take a look at them, and freshen them up!!  So happy!!

 
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